Submitted 2 Red 09 VDB 1c. One graded and one didnt. What am I missing?

RedneckHB · February 21, 2008 2:32AM

I cant see why the bottom coin was returned in a bodybag as questionable toning. Any ideas?

ahooka454 · February 21, 2008 2:33AM

Looks fine to me. Thats weird.

harvey85422458 · February 21, 2008 2:33AM

Looks fine to me. Someone had a bug up there butt

BlindedByEgo · February 21, 2008 2:35AM

More grading fees?

STONE · February 21, 2008 2:35AM

Could be an altered surface, shake and bake job; but that's a wild guess. I know PCGS has been cracking down on altered coins,
so any doubt would likely sport a BB.

Other than that it looks like a nice coin.

droopyd · February 21, 2008 2:39AM

No idea -- it looks perfectly OK to me.

It's a shame that for the fees they charge they can't take an extra 30 seconds to communicate exactly what the issue was.

Whit · February 21, 2008 2:43AM

Were these coins submitted in the same batch?

ziggy29 · February 21, 2008 2:43AM

If they know people will just keep resubmitting for more fees, there's a lot less incentive to get it right the first time.

Shamika · February 21, 2008 2:45AM

<< If they know people will just keep resubmitting for more fees, there's a lot less incentive to get it right the first time. >>

The thought did cross my mind.

RedneckHB · February 21, 2008 2:46AM

<< Were these coins submitted in the same batch? >>

Yes. They were back to back.

66RB · February 21, 2008 2:47AM

Questionable toning? I'd say it's more like Questionable grading.

NH484000 · February 21, 2008 2:47AM

FWIW, I think the one that bagged looks better than the slabbed one-

slipgate · February 21, 2008 2:49AM

I've had several, problem free coins BB'd for the same reason. I am not sure what they are up to, perhaps they are trying to alienate the individual submitter?

coolest · February 21, 2008 2:49AM

<< No idea -- it looks perfectly OK to me.

It's a shame that for the fees they charge they can't take an extra 30 seconds to communicate exactly what the issue was. >>

You got that right!!

mr1931S · February 21, 2008 2:54AM

Any ideas?

Questionable grading expertise.Coin looks fine to me if your image is even a half-accurate representation.

If they know people will just keep....

and the beat goes on.

rgCoinGuy · February 21, 2008 3:01AM

I had 2 pre 1930 cents come back questionable color too, and I don't get it, the 1929 S is the same color as some 1970's toned in the mint set pennies ( a bit red) and a 1920 that looked normal color. I wish we could get some clarification, but your coins there are a very good example of WTH? is the deal.

ebaytrader · February 21, 2008 3:01AM

<< Any ideas? >>

Yes, you haven't paid enough.

ChuckC · February 21, 2008 3:02AM

OT, but what did the one cent grade?

rbalderman1 · February 21, 2008 3:09AM

Is it a 64???

RedneckHB · February 21, 2008 3:13AM

<< OT, but what did the one cent grade? >>

The graded coin is a 64 which I expected. I thought the bottom coin has a shot at 65.

guitarwes · February 21, 2008 3:18AM

Doesn't look like there's a thing wrong with the bottom coin. They missed the boat on this one.

wes

TomB · February 21, 2008 3:55AM

Head scratcher.

fc · February 21, 2008 3:59AM

it looks like you are not missing a thing in my mind.
which means the other thought crossing my mind should not be vocalized.

ahooka454 · February 21, 2008 4:01AM

<<it looks like you are not missing a thing in my mind.
which means the other thought crossing my mind should not be vocalized. >>

robkool · February 21, 2008 4:03AM

I don't see nothing wrong with it either...

duck620 · February 21, 2008 4:22AM

had the same thing happen to my 1909 & 1909 vdb.sent two of each,2 were graded 64r/b.2 bb for questional color.don't figure.

marz · February 21, 2008 4:24AM

<< 

<< OT, but what did the one cent grade? >>

The graded coin is a 64 which I expected. I thought the bottom coin has a shot at 65. >>

the bottom coin has a shimmer of polish on it which may have created the slight bubbly effect I think I see!

jmj3esq · February 21, 2008 4:58AM

It looks like it should have graded. I had a similar 1909 VDB bag for questionable color. This is when I was new at collecting. I took it to a dealer for an expanation. He said it looked dipped in a dilute acid like lemon juice. Apparently this method is used to make a "brown" cent more "red". Mine looked a little pale compared to an original red cent. This could possibly be the reason for the bag. It looks prety good to me, though.

itsnotjustme · February 21, 2008 5:01AM

I suspect it relates to the odd appearance of the obv right field. What does that area look like in person?

LeeG · February 21, 2008 5:23AM

Presidential Review time if still within 30 day's.

BECOKA · February 21, 2008 5:44AM

<< Presidential Review time if still within 30 day's.

>>

That service is no longer available unless you want spot review. Price would be almost the same as a regrade. You can pay an additional $20 for a detailed write up of why a coin ends up where it is. i.e. BB or grade.

jimmymac · February 21, 2008 5:51AM

<< No idea -- it looks perfectly OK to me.

It's a shame that for the fees they charge they can't take an extra 30 seconds to communicate exactly what the issue was. >>

ARE YOU LISTENING PCGS?? How about giving the reason why a coin has been BB'd - that's the least you can do for the money paid - or do you find it difficult to stand behind your decisions?? - HOW ABOUT IT?? It's about time - give us one good reason why you dont??

droopyd · February 21, 2008 6:03AM

<< [How about giving the reason why a coin has been BB'd - that's the least you can do for the money paid >>

especially since they aren't incurring the expense of slabbing.

Tdec1000 · February 21, 2008 6:05AM

I have had the same thing happen to me. Not to get off of the topic too much but I love the MPL you have listed. What a gorgeous coin!

Submitted 2 Red 09 VDB 1c. One graded and one didnt. What am I missing?

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