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MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 24,784 ✭✭✭✭✭
Check this out. Are you inspired?

(News story here.)
Andy Lustig

Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.
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    ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
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    Wow. That's dedication.
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    I... That is... Uh... HOLY CRAP... not really sure what to say... that is just astonishing...


    wow.






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    percybpercyb Posts: 3,339 ✭✭✭✭
    Funny. The guy doesn't look 60 years old. Must be a typo about when he bot his first record.
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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭
    "I can't seem to get any interest from the country in preserving this for history," he says. "I'm very concerned about that."

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    hm.

    many of his records were never opened and played.

    in my humble opinion, most of it is probably stuff you could barely
    give away now days. i see records in flea markets and collectible stores
    sitting with a price tag of .25-1.00 month after month with no sales.
    the cream was picked out long ago.

    it sounds like, to me, that the collection consists of a bunch of crap
    that gets no radio time anymore and he is simply estimating a dollar
    or two per album. a small percentage of items are collectible and in
    true demand. they list a few of those: rolling stones, elvis, etc...

    that is the way collections go when they become so monstrous. no
    one wants the crap. they simply want the cream.

    my remaining thought is too bad he did not rip them all to a digital
    format and screw the laws. share them to the internet. start mailing
    out 1 terrabyte HDs to key people online in different countries.

    the future of music is no longer plastic. (itunes for example).

    inspired? yes. amazing achievement. envious? hell no. you could
    not pay me enough to take that 80% pile of poo away and have
    to store it on my property.


    edited to add: my point is this: what is more important? the music or the medium? easy choice in my mind. i would rather have 5 terrabytes of Hard drives then 3 million records and 1000s of cds.
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    bidaskbidask Posts: 14,057 ✭✭✭✭✭
    sounds like the focus of my coin collection
    I manage money. I earn money. I save money .
    I give away money. I collect money.
    I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.




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    << <i>"I can't seem to get any interest from the country in preserving this for history," he says. "I'm very concerned about that."

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    hm.

    many of his records were never opened and played.

    in my humble opinion, most of it is probably stuff you could barely
    give away now days. i see records in flea markets and collectible stores
    sitting with a price tag of .25-1.00 month after month with no sales.
    the cream was picked out long ago.

    it sounds like, to me, that the collection consists of a bunch of crap
    that gets no radio time anymore and he is simply estimating a dollar
    or two per album. a small percentage of items are collectible and in
    true demand. they list a few of those: rolling stones, elvis, etc...

    that is the way collections go when they become so monstrous. no
    one wants the crap. they simply want the cream.

    my remaining thought is too bad he did not rip them all to a digital
    format and screw the laws. share them to the internet. start mailing
    out 1 terrabyte HDs to key people online in different countries.

    the future of music is no longer plastic. (itunes for example).

    inspired? yes. amazing achievement. envious? hell no. you could
    not pay me enough to take that 80% pile of poo away and have
    to store it on my property.


    edited to add: my point is this: what is more important? the music or the medium? easy choice in my mind. i would rather have 5 terrabytes of Hard drives then 3 million records and 1000s of cds. >>









    I see where you are coming from but IMHO... he may very well feel the same about coin collecting (regardless of the fact that coins have intrinsic value)... but hey... to each his own... he was focus and diligant... I am impressed... though, like you, I would have 0 desire to own such a collection. But that does not mean it's "crap".








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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    Ok, I am inspired. I must now have every numismatic item ever made. image
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    droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭


    << <i>in my humble opinion, most of it is probably stuff you could barely
    give away now days. i see records in flea markets and collectible stores
    sitting with a price tag of .25-1.00 month after month with no sales.
    the cream was picked out long ago.

    it sounds like, to me, that the collection consists of a bunch of crap
    that gets no radio time anymore and he is simply estimating a dollar
    or two per album. a small percentage of items are collectible and in
    true demand. they list a few of those: rolling stones, elvis, etc...

    that is the way collections go when they become so monstrous. no
    one wants the crap. they simply want the cream. >>




    i do not know the contents of this massive collection, but i am fairly certian that there is a lot of "cream" and little to no "crap." you can't judge the value of a collection like this based on what you see at junk shops and garage sales any more than you can base the value of the husak collection on what you see at flea markets. and it sounds like this guy kept all of the "cream" for himself, probably most of it by artists you've never heard of.




    << <i>my point is this: what is more important? the music or the medium? easy choice in my mind. i would rather have 5 terrabytes of Hard drives then 3 million records and 1000s of cds. >>




    value is in the eye (or ear!) of the beholder. to some, the medium is the thing. there are people who will pay lots of money for pristine vinyl, much in the same way as people here will pay obscene amounts for what ultimately amounts to some old piece of pocket change. you may not understand them or their motivations, they may not understand you or yours, but vive la difference.
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    IGWTIGWT Posts: 4,975 ✭
    That's a story of what would have happened if Eliasberg had collected vinyl. The collection is valued at $50,000,000, but that works out to an average of just $1.51 per item. Edited to add: I wonder if the collection includes "Our Love is Rarer Than a 1909-S V.D.B. Lincoln cent" by the Rockway's. image
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    ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow. That's dedication. >>

    That's one word for it.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,227 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I remember hearing Glenn Miller's music all the time while growing up. Tommy Dorsey and a lot of the big band swing music is something bred into me. George Gershwin is someone I've taken a particular liking to, being an "AMERICAN" composer.


    I love music. I once dreamt that me and Michael Jackson were friends and he liked me 'cuz I was able to remain out of the limelight. It was a wierd dream. Talk about a freakin' nightmare.

    That dream almost caused me to quit playing guitar altogether.

    Speaking of music... can someone post the reverse of a Tennessee Statehood Quarter to get this thread back on track ? image

    You always inpire me, Andy !


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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭
    I will use comic books as an example.

    I no longer feel the compulsive need to own the original of everything i like.
    Carl Barks has really become a well known disney artist and his Uncle Scrooge
    makes for amazing stories.

    I am quite content and happy reading reprints.. the content.. the story.. the reason
    he wrote/drew the things in the first place. to tell a tall tale and make people smile.

    Owning the originals may be nice but it is truly missing the point of his creations which
    was to make others happy.

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    As for music, you cannot have a collection that huge without buying everything ever released
    under the sun. Based on buying everything that has come out over the last 60 years I would
    assume there is a lot of stuff then is already forgotten and not wanted except by few. If that
    is the case you can get them for .25-1.00 anywhere they sell old records.

    I have heard so many people discuss large collections in the sense of they want only the cream,
    as for the rest it is common and not very desirable. heck, this guy did not even listen to most of it.
    he simply bought and bought and bought.

    comparing it to coins is a bit tougher in my mind. the physical item is the collectible.. while the more
    important part of the equation to me when it comes to music is the actual sound/voices/etc.. and less
    the physical medium.

    today we still have mozart to listen to thanks to the portability of sheet music. the important part
    of his work is there for everyone to study... no one needs his hand written sheet music to enjoy
    the critical part of his work. (it must be nice though to own the history, but to enjoy his goal one
    does not require it).

    i hope i make sense. fixation on the wrong part of the equation might make you miss the original
    point of the creation.

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    i am not saying records are not just as collectible as coins or comics, etc... all i am saying is that
    one can enjoy the works of musicians without needing the original record released in 19XX. The
    same goes for comic books. The main part of the equation can easily be reproduced for others
    to enjoy. Try that with a coin and you will end up in prison ;-)
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    Must be the old "Pride in ownership" thing. I could look at high resolution photos of coins but I like to actually own them.

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