I would advise caution with this eBay seller.

Russ · February 2, 2008 5:38AM

http://coins.search.ebay.com/_Coins-US_W0QQcatrefZC12QQsacatZ253QQsassZbbqhotdogs

This coin was previously listed with the same images under another account.

That account was subsequently NARU'd and the auction nuked. Same thing with the 1965 and 1966 this seller has listed. I can't say for certain if this is the same seller, but it seems too hinky to take a risk.

Russ, NCNE

LickThoseStamps · February 2, 2008 5:50AM

It's clear to me. This guy is just helping someone liquidate an estate to pay funeral expenses. Why are you trying to torpedo his good will?

LindeDad · February 2, 2008 6:30AM

Twenty bidders on his 1965. Hope somebody is not hurt there.

ILikeMercs · February 2, 2008 6:32AM

those links are to the same seller.

airedale · February 2, 2008 3:51PM

?

airedale · February 2, 2008 4:15PM

<< Twenty bidders on his 1965. Hope somebody is not hurt there. >>

Hurt by PCGS?

ahooka454 · February 2, 2008 4:25PM

airedale · February 2, 2008 4:33PM

Wow! Does not demand Papal!

airedale · February 2, 2008 6:01PM

Cameonut · February 2, 2008 7:01PM

Yep I bid on one of those coins before. Ebay nuked the auction. I agree with Russ-proceed with caution.

airedale · February 2, 2008 7:19PM

<< Yep I bid on one of those coins before. EBay nuked the auction. I agree with Russ-proceed with caution. >>

Definitely stay away from them! No off brands ( 3rd Tier ) to bid on now so stay away from potentially upgradeable PCGS coins. Sage advice. The sellers terms are horrible, he will even accept your check!

TAClough · February 3, 2008 12:56AM

<< Definitely stay away from them! No off brands ( 3rd Tier ) to bid on now so stay away from potentially upgradeable PCGS coins. Sage advice. The sellers terms are horrible, he will even accept your check! >>

airedale,

I don't think anyone is saying that the coins are bad, just to many "red flags"! 1) The exact three coins were up for auction just a few weeks ago and eBay ended the auctions. 2) New account with low feedback history. Just remember the old saying, "If it sounds to good to be true then it probably is!"

If I were to sell a few "high end" coins for the first time and I had a new account with low feedback, if I wanted the best price that could be had then I would probably have cosigned the coins with someone that had already established themselves in the coin community so bidders would feel more comfortable bidding.

JMHO,

19Lyds · February 3, 2008 1:01AM

<< those links are to the same seller. >>

Yep!

You can't link an NARUed seller nor can you link an auction that's been nuked.

This is word of mouth from the Master himself and his advise is always credible!

And no I'm not kissing Russ's behind as the facts remain that he is seldom wrong.

Russ · February 3, 2008 3:39AM

airedale,

You should buy some coins from this seller, send him your money, and then let us know the results.

Russ, NCNE

airedale · February 3, 2008 3:53AM

<< airedale,

You should buy some coins from this seller, send him your money, and then let us know the results.

Russ, NCNE >>

Why, I have these these things out the ying yang.

Russ · February 3, 2008 3:54AM

Obviously, you think the auctions are legit. Prove it by ponying up your own money instead of just talking trash.

Russ, NCNE

airedale · February 3, 2008 3:59AM

<< Obviously, you think the auctions are legit. Prove it by ponying up your own money instead of just talking trash.

Russ, NCNE >>

You are the Master Trash Talker mister 99 cent auction man.

seateddime · February 3, 2008 4:00AM

ah

YaHa · February 3, 2008 4:14AM

And I thought I was mister .99 cent man. maybe I should change my auctions to .98 cent man.

TAClough · February 3, 2008 4:39AM

<< << airedale,

You should buy some coins from this seller, send him your money, and then let us know the results.

Russ, NCNE >>

Why, I have these these things out the ying yang. >>

You have them coming out of your "ying yang"? Guess you are all talk or full of BS. I doubt you have any MS68 Cam SMS Kennedys and you just showed your creditablity or lack there of

Bochiman · February 3, 2008 4:49AM

<< 

<< << airedale,

You should buy some coins from this seller, send him your money, and then let us know the results.

Russ, NCNE >>

Why, I have these these things out the ying yang. >>

You have them coming out of your "ying yang"? Guess you are all talk or full of BS. I doubt you have any MS68 Cam SMS Kennedys and you just showed your creditablity or lack there of

>>

Nah...he's got 'em, just not PCGS and not a very big "ying yang" so only needs a few before they are "Coming out"

airedale · February 3, 2008 4:56AM

<< 

<< << airedale,

You should buy some coins from this seller, send him your money, and then let us know the results.

Russ, NCNE >>

Why, I have these these things out the ying yang. >>

You have them coming out of your "ying yang"? Guess you are all talk or full of BS. I doubt you have any MS68 Cam SMS Kennedys and you just showed your creditablity or lack there of

>>

Ole BiddelsBank was right! The rat pack sure attempts to protect each other. You can't spell either.

airedale · February 3, 2008 5:04AM

<< 

<< 

<< << airedale,

You should buy some coins from this seller, send him your money, and then let us know the results.

Russ, NCNE >>

Why, I have these these things out the ying yang. >>

You have them coming out of your "ying yang"? Guess you are all talk or full of BS. I doubt you have any MS68 Cam SMS Kennedys and you just showed your creditablity or lack there of

>>

Nah...he's got 'em, just not PCGS and not a very big "ying yang" so only needs a few before they are "Coming out"

>>

You were on Biddels list too Bochiman. Stinky!

TAClough · February 3, 2008 5:06AM

Still waiting to see a SMS MS68 CAM Kennedys

Those pictures that you posted don't look like MS68, let alone CAM, guess that is why the submitter used ANACS

Again, who is fooling who? I noticed that you didn't post any pictures of the reverse, wonder why

Russ · February 3, 2008 5:07AM

<< Those pictures that you posted don't look like MS68, let alone CAM >>

Yep, the old ANACS never would have holdered crap like that at those grade levels. Might as well be NNC holders.

Russ, NCNE

TAClough · February 3, 2008 5:13AM

<< Ole BiddelsBank was right! The rat pack sure attempts to protect each other. You can't spell either. >>

Not protecting anyone, regardless of what your butt buddy BiddelsBank says. I would like to bid strong on two of the auction but with the new account and low feedback with the fact that the same coins were delisted a few weeks ago by eBay, I have to agree with Russ that it is not worth the gamble. But feel free to bid strong yourself on eBay for the one listed there and maybe you will get a real MS68 CAM Kennedy.

Bochiman · February 3, 2008 5:14AM

<< 

<< 

<< 

<< << airedale,

You should buy some coins from this seller, send him your money, and then let us know the results.

Russ, NCNE >>

Why, I have these these things out the ying yang. >>

You have them coming out of your "ying yang"? Guess you are all talk or full of BS. I doubt you have any MS68 Cam SMS Kennedys and you just showed your creditablity or lack there of

>>

Nah...he's got 'em, just not PCGS and not a very big "ying yang" so only needs a few before they are "Coming out"

>>

You were on Biddels list too Bochiman. Stinky! >>

You're funny....for someone who showcases his own ignorance

airedale · February 3, 2008 5:15AM

<< 

<< Those pictures that you posted don't look like MS68, let alone CAM >>

Yep, the old ANACS never would have holdered crap like that at those grade levels. Might as well be NNC holders.

Russ, NCNE >>

Then you could buy them for $3.00, crack them out, get 'em graded at a " respectful TPG " and sell them for moon money. Those days are over, cut your hair and go get a job.

Bochiman · February 3, 2008 5:26AM

Airedale, you are either an alt or just plain stupid and a troll.
No profile shown, no PM enabled, and plenty of disrespect and badmouthing.

I doubt anyone takes you seriously around here, particularly since you seem to revere a loon that was banned for being loonie and then some.

jmski52 · February 3, 2008 5:32AM

If I ever say I'm going to bid $1,300 with a seller who has 9 feedbacks on an auction (especially a silver Kennedy) where Russ suspects that he's seen the same coins offered by another seller, based on the images...........................please smack me with a baseball bat and wake me up.

Does anyone have comparative auction results data for PCGS vs. ANACS on SMS and Proof Kennedys? Just curious.

BTW, those halves sure don't look like there's much cameo about them, no offense (except maybe the 1965, and certainly the 1959 below your signature line for sure). My point is that PCGS and ANACS apparently do have significant differences between them in making both grade and cameo designations.

I don't understand your problem with Russ's pointing out a potential problem which could cost you significant money with a newbie (and possibly suspect) seller.

seatedcoins · February 3, 2008 5:45AM

This is getting good

airedale · February 3, 2008 6:28AM

<< Airedale, you are either an alt or just plain stupid and a troll.
No profile shown, no PM enabled, and plenty of disrespect and badmouthing.

I doubt anyone takes you seriously around here, particularly since you seem to revere a loon that was banned for being loonie and then some. >>

Your profile is great your last name is The Man? Are you illegal?

Bochiman · February 3, 2008 6:32AM

<< 

<< Airedale, you are either an alt or just plain stupid and a troll.
No profile shown, no PM enabled, and plenty of disrespect and badmouthing.

I doubt anyone takes you seriously around here, particularly since you seem to revere a loon that was banned for being loonie and then some. >>

Your profile is great your last name is The Man? Are you illegal? >>

Sure it is, Troll

pontiacinf · February 3, 2008 8:04AM

<< 

<< 

<< << airedale,

You should buy some coins from this seller, send him your money, and then let us know the results.

Russ, NCNE >>

Why, I have these these things out the ying yang. >>

You have them coming out of your "ying yang"? Guess you are all talk or full of BS. I doubt you have any MS68 Cam SMS Kennedys and you just showed your creditablity or lack there of

>>

Ole BiddelsBank was right! The rat pack sure attempts to protect each other. You can't spell either.

>>

hope you didnt buy those, if you did, you have my condolances

TAClough · February 4, 2008 3:48AM

Airedale,

You have just over two days to go, maybe you could pick up a real MS68 CAM Kennedy for around $1,500 in this link.

Let us know what it looks like when you get it.

seanq · February 4, 2008 3:54AM

Not to defend or offend anyone here, but you simply can't judge cameo contrast from a flatbed scan. Go look in the Heritage archives is you don't believe me.

airedale, you have them in hand, I hope you were buying the coins and not the holders.

Sean Reynolds

streeter · February 4, 2008 4:27AM

Nothing like PCI gold cameo's

Didn't I see an ad in some magazine that PCI assets are available on the auction block?

I particularly liked the sellers bedside manor-----"I don't like to chat with loser's, just bid."

BECOKA · February 4, 2008 5:27AM

Wow, tough crowd today. I disagree with the flatbed scan comment. Every time I have tried to scan a proof coin the cameo comes out 10x stronger than in hand.

eyoung429 · February 4, 2008 5:36AM

DJCoinz · February 4, 2008 5:58AM

Put your money where your mouth is airhead.

airedale · February 4, 2008 6:13AM

<< Not to defend or offend anyone here, but you simply can't judge cameo contrast from a flatbed scan. Go look in the Heritage archives is you don't believe me.

airedale, you have them in hand, I hope you were buying the coins and not the holders.

Sean Reynolds >>

Thanks.
Other than the Franklin's the most expensive coin there was $53.00 going down to $22.00 . Funny but not 15 minutes before this had started I took that scan and posted it out of boredom elsewhere on this forum.

TAClough · February 6, 2008 10:25AM

Auctions are over!

1967 MS68 CAM

1966 MS68 CAM

1965 MS68 CAM

I have to wonder if the seller would have recieved a higher price if he let Tele Trade do the auctions.

smokincoin · February 6, 2008 10:52AM

Ought to be interesting come feedback time!!! Hope someone remembers to check on it and keep us informed.

Glad I caught this post! I can now add another jacka_s to my list of jacka_ss!

Russ · February 6, 2008 11:12AM

<< I have to wonder if the seller would have recieved a higher price if he let Tele Trade do the auctions >>

The 1965 that he got over $2K for sold previously on Teletrade for $1950. It's one Marty made.

Russ, NCNE

Connecticoin · February 18, 2008 9:49AM

Airedale = Biddlesbank

ahooka454 · February 18, 2008 10:00AM

RegistryCoin · February 18, 2008 10:15AM

<< ...not a very big "ying yang" so only needs a few before they are "Coming out" >>

I lost track of the conversation when I read the above so I have no opinion on the discussion at hand, but...
that'll teach me not to eat my rice so close to the keyboard. Lines like that should come with a warning.

rgCoinGuy · February 18, 2008 10:20AM

Check out what google caught about biddles bank in its cache, this should be all anyone needs to know, when you go back and realize the loser deleted his post afterwards....

What is it the kids say now adays? L over the forehead? LMAO

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:jEDeu_yOdEEJ:www.biddlesbank.com/+biddles+bank&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us Link

Edited to add, it looks like he reinstated his website in the last week or so, like he wants a fight, a lot of posts are claiming CU will shut down its very informative forum, I see no reason for that, and I for one volunteer to be an extra mod if need be. My job is a telecomunications job, feel free to contact me PCGS, no charge to keep these idiots in check from me.....

airedale · February 18, 2008 11:10AM

<< Auctions are over!

1967 MS68 CAM

1966 MS68 CAM

1965 MS68 CAM

I have to wonder if the seller would have recieved a higher price if he let Tele Trade do the auctions.

>>

I suppose the real question is how much this disabled seller would have received over 66% of PCGS List had this thread not intervened in his auction. Heavens knows how many hundreds or thousands members and non members, potential bidders, read this.
Talk about auction interference, where are all of the vigilantes now to report this activity to eBay.

ahooka454 · February 18, 2008 11:13AM

Wolf359 · February 18, 2008 11:24AM

<< 

<< Auctions are over!

1967 MS68 CAM

1966 MS68 CAM

1965 MS68 CAM

I have to wonder if the seller would have recieved a higher price if he let Tele Trade do the auctions.

>>

I suppose the real question is how much this disabled seller would have received over 66% of PCGS List had this thread not intervened in his auction. Heavens knows how many hundreds or thousands members and non members, potential bidders, read this.
Talk about auction interference, where are all of the vigilantes now to report this activity to eBay. >>

You're a lame kook airedale. Do us all a favor and take the act elsewhere.

I would advise caution with this eBay seller.

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