Artis Gilmore Question

shagrotn77 · January 30, 2008 7:40AM

I read on wikipedia (and another site) that he is ineligible for the HOF until 2012. Is this true? If so, why?

BobaFett72 · January 30, 2008 7:52AM

not a clue, but my friends in jr. high would always call him Fartis Gilmore....perhaps his flatulence was so deadly it forever burned the nostrils of former teammates and they are holding it against him.

p.s.

i love the quote from Dr. Evil LOL

BobaFett72 · January 30, 2008 7:55AM

Very impressive stats though:

NCAA rebounding champion in 1970 and 1971

- All-time NCAA Division I career rebounding average leader (22.7 rpg)

- One of five NCAA Division I players with career averages of 20+ ppg and 20+ rpg

- 1972 ABA MVP and Rookie of the Year

- ABA regular season single game record 40 rebounds versus New York, 2/3/74

- Four-time ABA rebounding champion (1972-74, 76)

- Two-time ABA field goal percentage champion (1972-73)

- Two-time ABA shot blocking champion (1972-73)

- 1974 ABA All-Star Game MVP

- 1975 ABA Playoff MVP

- Five-time All-ABA 1st Team selection (1972-76)

- Four-time ABA All-Defensive Team selection (1973-76)

- Appeared in 670 consecutive ABA/NBA games

- 11 All-Star selections in 17 ABA/NBA seasons

- Ranked in the top ten in rebounding in 12 of 17 ABA/NBA seasons

- Ranked in the top ten in blocked shots in 13 of 17 ABA/NBA seasons

- Ranked in the top ten in field goal percentage in 15 of 17 ABA/NBA seasons

- Four-time NBA field goal percentage champion (1981-84)

- One of seven unanimous selections to the 1997 ABA All-Time Team

- Ranks first in career ABA/NBA regular season field goal percentage (.582); also holds the NBA (.599) and ABA (.558) career records

- Ranks third in career ABA/NBA regular season blocked shots (3178)

- Ranks fifth in career ABA/NBA regular season rebounds (16,330)

- Ranks 18th in career ABA/NBA regular season points (24,491)

CDsNuts · January 30, 2008 8:04AM

Didn't get enough votes to remain on the ballot, so I guess that's when his veterans committee consideration kicks in.

TomGshotput · January 30, 2008 10:52PM

wikipedia gives you the answer

"Gilmore remains ineligible for consideration of Hall of Fame enshrinement until 2012 [BECAUSE] For the past three years he failed to receive a single vote of support from a panel of nine basketball experts serving on the North American screening committee"

Veterans Committee wouldn't be able to select him until 2023 as his career ended in 1988

GOODLIEU · January 31, 2008 12:06AM

Thank you TomG for that info. My question is who are these "experts" doing the voting. Last year this panel did not enshrine a single player in the Hall only coaches and a Ref and Wikipedia Basketball Hall Of Fame site contains the following quote "Controversy has arisen over many aspects of the Hall's voting procedures including the anonymity of the voters. The other major sports' Halls of Fame make the debate transparent and sportswriters and other voters openly debate their choices. Springfield has also been widely criticized for its tendency to enshrine active collegiate coaches and relatively obscure players while there are notable omissions". These experts are ruining the honor associated with be entered into the Hall. Not only for these worthy players but for the fans who watched them play and supported them. Besides Gilmore they have missed Adrian Dantley,Dennis Johnson and other worthy candidates that many of us who follow this sport would have had in there years ago.

ebayaddict · January 31, 2008 12:14AM

All i know is he had one of the coolest fro's in BBall...........right up there with Dr. J. Well, actually better!

basketballcollector · January 31, 2008 12:41AM

nevermind

shagrotn77 · January 31, 2008 2:20AM

I think Adrian Dantley is the most overlooked deserving HOF'er in ANY SPORT. The voting definitely is a joke. How can you comtinue to place mroe emphasis on coaching and administration than on the players who actually performed on the court??? Hopefully this year's results will bring more pallitable results. Dantley, D.J. and King are all guys who deserve serious looks.

CDsNuts · January 31, 2008 3:28AM

You are correct on all counts: Dantley was a machine for a bad team. DJ was the glue that held one of the greatest teams every together. (I assume you mean Bernard) King had a great career and was the most dominant scorer in the league right before the Jordan era. To put it into perspective in terms of eras, this would be the equivalent of Miller, Isiah and Malone not getting in.

pomobileclk · January 31, 2008 9:08AM

If I remember correctly, Red Auerbach was very anti -ABA and had a lot of influence over the HOF selection committee.

pandrews · February 1, 2008 4:28AM

jacksonville. represent.

pomobileclk · February 1, 2008 10:40AM

One of my favorite basketball photos:

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