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Ebay is going to do itself a lot of harm with the recent changes

The Final Value fee changes are annoying, but hey, nobody is forcing you to sell on ebay. If you choose to sell then you accept the FV fee.

But the feedback changes are going to detrimental to ebay. I have a feeling it's going to result in A LOT of people getting many more negs, and many of them simply leaving.

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  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 7,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The increased final value fee PLUS forced paypal for sellers with less than 100 feedbacks really hurts.

    For that matter, the magic 100 rating for sellers makes no sense at all. One could have 100 feedbacks, all as buyer, having never sold anything, and that individual does not have to offer paypal (and take the paypal hit on your profits) when they sell thier FIRST item. On the other hand, a seller could have a 60 feedback rating, with 50 as seller and all positive, yet still has to offer paypal. 50+ transactions with 100% positive feedback is not enough??

    This really sucks for the occasional seller, such as me. Member since '01, 52 feedbacks, 100% + and I have to offer Paypal and could apparantly have my $ held by paypal.

    This will drive a lot of sellers away from Ebay.

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  • Raw coin and third-world slab sellers will be most affected since by selling slabbed coins, there is a resonable determination (and guarantee) made as to the stated quality by a person other than the one selling the coin. IMO, this will affect sellers of PCGS or NGC graded coins very little.
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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    I've decided I'm fine with the new feedback rules. Every seller will eventually get negatives now because malicious miscreants can do whatever they want. But I believe some of my competitors will get many deserved negatives they've been avoiding and it will be benefitcial for me in the long run. --jerry
  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I've decided I'm fine with the new feedback rules. Every seller will eventually get negatives now because malicious miscreants can do whatever they want. But I believe some of my competitors will get many deserved negatives they've been avoiding and it will be benefitcial for me in the long run. --jerry >>



    My thoughts exactly !!
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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The increased final value fee PLUS forced paypal for sellers with less than 100 feedbacks really hurts. For that matter, the magic 100 rating for sellers makes no sense at all. One could have 100 feedbacks, all as buyer, having never sold anything, and that individual does not have to offer paypal (and take the paypal hit on your profits) when they sell thier FIRST item. On the other hand, a seller could have a 60 feedback rating, with 50 as seller and all positive, yet still has to offer paypal. 50+ transactions with 100% positive feedback is not enough?? This really sucks for the occasional seller, such as me. Member since '01, 52 feedbacks, 100% + and I have to offer Paypal and could apparantly have my $ held by paypal. This will drive a lot of sellers away from Ebay. >>



    Don't let the paypal hysteria scare you. If you are an honest and legitimate seller you'll be fine. Sure there are stories but they are not normal business. --jerry
  • RegistryCoinRegistryCoin Posts: 5,129 ✭✭✭✭
    It probably was the only way they could think of to get rid of "retaliatory negs" and that "mutually agreed" BS. Like Jerry said, it'll all even out so that the good seller's will have better feedback than the lousy ones, where the average seller's feedback will probably go from the usual 99.9% to something more reasonable.
  • i dont mind a listing fee, or the feedback, but the increased final value fee is not making me happy. ill go to coin zip or just consign from now on. or just post on the bst.
  • RaufusRaufus Posts: 7,240 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And one more thing...

    Per the ebay rep on the phone, PayPal should hold $ in no more than 5% of all sales. Imagine how much $ that actually is, on loan interest free to PayPal.
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  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Paypal pays 4.xx % interest--better than my bank. and they don't hold any of my money. When I get to my standard transfer ammount I transfer. Of course I have a credit card and bank account to back it up.

    However, on average I'd say I have more than 5% of my sales in there anyhow. --Jerry
  • New rules suck on eBay
    I worked the last 9 years building the perfect rep.. and that took a lot of care and effort. Now eBay wants to wipe it out except the last year? Bull
    That means eBay can let in a lot of scammers and each year their crappy feedback will just disappear..Whos' bright idea was that?

    Fees? I've moved from PayPal preferred to paypal add 4.9% to final fee.

    I prefer Google Checkout at 2% and EZ to send invoices. ( It was FREE as promo until Feb 1 )

    I even offer a cash for cash discount of 2% which works well.

    eBay is pricing themselves out of the market and now there are alternatives.

    They have earned the acronym of "eBay? No way !!!"
  • ArizonaJackArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭
    Im on play it by ear mode....theres coinbug, CMerlos site, and more and more are popping up, I'll split ebay in a minute if it gets bad.....but, I'm going to give it a chance
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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    eBay has opened the door for a well run, well financed competitor to step in. Is there such a competitor out there?
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  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>eBay has opened the door for a well run, well financed competitor to step in. Is there such a competitor out there? >>



    No there is not. Hence eBay is acting like a company with monopoly power.
  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>eBay has opened the door for a well run, well financed competitor to step in. Is there such a competitor out there? >>



    No there is not. Hence eBay is acting like a company with monopoly power. >>




    The big question is: Whould you support and promote an alternative?


  • << <i>

    << <i>eBay has opened the door for a well run, well financed competitor to step in. Is there such a competitor out there? >>



    No there is not. Hence eBay is acting like a company with monopoly power. >>



    Unfortunately, I agree. Yahoo should have been able to do it, but they fell flat on their face. Everyone hoped Google would step up to the plate, but it never happenned. Apparently no company with the financial, technical, and exposure ability wants to assume the risk of failure against ebay. It really is too bad.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    There's been no activity on my account since the end of October '07.
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ^

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  • If they were serious about cleaning up Ebay they could start by banning sellers from China from offering stuff in US.
  • Too bad that ebay waited until Meg left to do this....had this occurred 6months ago, Yahoo auctions would have had a chance. Not that it would be any better in all aspects, but at least it was a viable competitor.
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

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  • I've been working for the last couple of months on my website.....my thinking is/was I just do not see the traffic I use to on ebay.....I sill have to sell so why not create a place for everyone to sell & research.....


    So If your looking for an alternaive......its here if you need it.








  • orevilleoreville Posts: 12,292 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This is only going to strengthen the viability of the small weekend coin shows that seems to be really coming back to life after a few weak years.
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  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Too bad that ebay waited until Meg left to do this....had this occurred 6months ago, Yahoo auctions would have had a chance. Not that it would be any better in all aspects, but at least it was a viable competitor. >>




    Yahoo was very successful as a selling venue. For Yahoo, it failed because of the labor intensive nature of auction website management and their inability to generate meaningful advertising dollars to compensate for the 'no fees' structure.

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