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1/2 pt grades

I notice that PSA is now doing 1/2 pt grades for sports cards. The rational being that price difference between 1 full point grades can be enormous. Can't the same be said for coins? In fact, wouldn't half point grades negate the whole need for the CAC which is stickering the A/B designated coins in the grade?

Wouldn't 1/2 point grades encourage millions of potential resubmissions and envigorate the coin industry? Not looking to get poofed or cause controversy but it just seems natural to give more clarity to grading.

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    Dennis88Dennis88 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭
    From what I have understood from the new PSA grading standards is that a *.5 is an exceptional coin for the * grade. It does not mean that it fits inbetween, for example with a 7.5 it is a 7+ and not a card which fits directly between a 7 and 8.

    I think the coin grades which are used enough are good enough. I think it is best to see the new PSA grading standars as FH or FB grading for SLQ's and Mercury/Roosevelt dimes.

    Only, slight improvement what I personally see will happen in the future, is a new designation called FD, or "full details" as is currently suggested by Bowers. However, I like to cherrypick my FD coinsimage

    Dennis
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    darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    get the same coin graded three different times as things are now and it will come back with three different grades. There just is not enough accuracy and consistancy in coin grading to get in to 1/2 points.....
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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Numeric grading of coins is already non-standard and inconsistent. Subdividing confusion only increases the confusion…but that might be a great way to improve flat sales of grading services.
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    BAJJERFANBAJJERFAN Posts: 31,625 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>get the same coin graded three different times as things are now and it will come back with three different grades. There just is not enough accuracy and consistancy in coin grading to get in to 1/2 points..... >>



    But there are those here who claim to be able to tell the difference between a 66.4 and a 66.6; at least that was the implication of the post at the time.
    theknowitalltroll;
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    messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,741 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Precision does not imply accuracy.
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    ambro51ambro51 Posts: 14,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It is a question which is interesting.. I know my ms66rd 1909 s vdb is very cherry for its grade. an OGH, it just brushes against 67 in my opinion, two teeney nicks on the back hold it back. Now, if it would grade a 66.5, and enter a population of perhaps 20, it would more approach the exalted 67 grade (and money).

    All in all though I think splitting hairs to that degree is asking too much for a team of human graders. That "CAC" sticker may be the closest thing to an accepted half grade going.

    Many years ago I shot in competition. Against some of the finest shooters in the country. There were targets where we needed strings and calipers to determine the higher score. THAT was a definate measurement.....coin grading is not.
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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 33,864 ✭✭✭✭✭
    This way madness lie........
    Numismatist. 54 year member ANA. Former ANA Senior Authenticator. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and ANA Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Also won the PNG's Robert Friedberg Award for "The Enigmatic Lincoln Cents of 1922," Available now from Whitman or Amazon.
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    dohdoh Posts: 6,457 ✭✭✭
    There is absolutely no need for half grades. There's already enough confusion and arguments over the whole numbers, why double it by making half grades?
    Positive BST transactions with: too many names to list! 36 at last count.
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    mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 7,005 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NGC already has 18 grades for uncirculated. Half-points thrown in there will only make the current mess even worse.

    What you think about my MS 63.5-star-stickered dollar?

    The measure of intelligence is the ability to change.
    Albert Einstein (14 March 1879--18 April 1955)

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    tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭


    << <i>get the same coin graded three different times as things are now and it will come back with three different grades. There just is not enough accuracy and consistancy in coin grading to get in to 1/2 points..... >>





    WOW! you said it!image
    "government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is a force! like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master; never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action." George Washington

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