Are there plans for a new Cherrypickers guide to be published ?
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There are. Whitman now owns the book and J. T. Stanton has been working on it.
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
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<< <i>Volume I of the 4th Edition was published in 2000, and mine is getting pretty beat up by now. So a new edition will be helpful. However, I do not plan to pay for it in advance, and I don't recommend that for anyone else either.
Why is that? Won't the pre-order price be lower?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
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<< <i>Volume I of the 4th Edition was published in 2000, and mine is getting pretty beat up by now. So a new edition will be helpful. However, I do not plan to pay for it in advance, and I don't recommend that for anyone else either.
Why is that? Won't the pre-order price be lower? >>
are you kidding? Pay today, get your book in two years...feel good?
An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.
I give away money. I collect money.
I don’t love money . I do love the Lord God.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>What can a new guide add that has not already been said? >>
There's lots of newer varieties that haven't been catalogued anywhere yet.
Look at Proofartworkoncirc's thread on '70-D quarter varieties for instance.
There are a lot more varieties which may be considered important someday that can be added.
Rich-
Absolutely. I disagree with MOST of the values in Vol 2 (for instance, the Type "B" rev quarters are absurd)-I don't know WHERE these came from. I have tracked sales of the major varieties for several years in every venue available and sent them to those responsible for compiling such things for the CPG, but it seems that these were not even considered in estimating realistic values for the major varieties-mainly doubled dies. However, varieties are certainly not in the mainstream of most collectors and, in defense of those that do list these values, except for the well known and frequently traded stuff, they can be VERY difficult to accurately assess. But even some of the values listed for the well known varieties make no sense.
One MAJOR complaint I have is the fact that that I sent $20,000 worth of Washington Quarter doubled dies, risking a possible loss of these coins in transit, for inclusion in the Vol 2 of the CPG and received no mention, other than a notation in the list of contributors at the front of the book, for my efforts. It seems that in previous editions of the CPG, before Whitman took over the publishing, that those that made a significant contribution to a particular series were at least mentioned in the intro for that series. Not that I want to be "patted on the back" for taking such risks with my coins, but perhaps Whitman considers savings on print and paper more valuable than giving credit to those who contribute to their book. As long as this mindset continues they can certainly no longer count on me.
<< <i>"Realone makes an excellent point. It would be a real waste of effort to develop a new edition of the Cherrypickers Guide, and not get the prices a bit more realistic."
Rich-
Absolutely. I disagree with MOST of the values in Vol 2 (for instance, the Type "B" rev quarters are absurd)-I don't know WHERE these came from. I have tracked sales of the major varieties for several years in every venue available and sent them to those responsible for compiling such things for the CPG, but it seems that these were not even considered in estimating realistic values for the major varieties-mainly doubled dies. However, varieties are certainly not in the mainstream of most collectors and, in defense of those that do list these values, except for the well known and frequently traded stuff, they can be VERY difficult to accurately assess. But even some of the values listed for the well known varieties make no sense.
One MAJOR complaint I have is the fact that that I sent $20,000 worth of Washington Quarter doubled dies, risking a possible loss of these coins in transit, for inclusion in the Vol 2 of the CPG and received no mention, other than a notation in the list of contributors at the front of the book, for my efforts. It seems that in previous editions of the CPG, before Whitman took over the publishing, that those that made a significant contribution to a particular series were at least mentioned in the intro for that series. Not that I want to be "patted on the back" for taking such risks with my coins, but perhaps Whitman considers savings on print and paper more valuable than giving credit to those who contribute to their book. As long as this mindset continues they can certainly no longer count on me. >>
I hear the violin playing...
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<< <i>Volume I of the 4th Edition was published in 2000, and mine is getting pretty beat up by now. So a new edition will be helpful. However, I do not plan to pay for it in advance, and I don't recommend that for anyone else either.
Why is that? Won't the pre-order price be lower? >>
i'm hopin' for a free sample
I would like to get some of these into the Red Book too. This is the only classic series with no varieties listed in the Red Book.
<< <i>"Realone makes an excellent point. It would be a real waste of effort to develop a new edition of the Cherrypickers Guide, and not get the prices a bit more realistic."
Rich-
Absolutely. I disagree with MOST of the values in Vol 2 (for instance, the Type "B" rev quarters are absurd)-I don't know WHERE these came from. I have tracked sales of the major varieties for several years in every venue available and sent them to those responsible for compiling such things for the CPG, but it seems that these were not even considered in estimating realistic values for the major varieties-mainly doubled dies. However, varieties are certainly not in the mainstream of most collectors and, in defense of those that do list these values, except for the well known and frequently traded stuff, they can be VERY difficult to accurately assess. But even some of the values listed for the well known varieties make no sense.
One MAJOR complaint I have is the fact that that I sent $20,000 worth of Washington Quarter doubled dies, risking a possible loss of these coins in transit, for inclusion in the Vol 2 of the CPG and received no mention, other than a notation in the list of contributors at the front of the book, for my efforts. It seems that in previous editions of the CPG, before Whitman took over the publishing, that those that made a significant contribution to a particular series were at least mentioned in the intro for that series. Not that I want to be "patted on the back" for taking such risks with my coins, but perhaps Whitman considers savings on print and paper more valuable than giving credit to those who contribute to their book. As long as this mindset continues they can certainly no longer count on me. >>
I believe that Mr. Cortez has similar feelings.
The thing that jumped out at me, when I finally received it after contacting JT at PCI, and I did pay for as soon as that was possible years prior like everyone else, was that a lot of the "new" inclusions are varieites that are barely on the interest meter or of any dramatic appearance. Now, of course this is like preferring a different flavor of ice cream, everyone has their own tastes, but I swear, it seems JT just threw some rpm's and doubled dies in at random from CONECA's files, just to fill it out a little more. Have you seen what he saw fit to include in the 1940's for dimes and quarters? Please.
Someone else needs to have this. Now, I expect Mike to be gracious and say JT is doing fine work, but volume 2 is crap compared to volume one and the 1st-3rd editions.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
Maybe Whitman could sell not only an on-line subscription, but use the license box model to sell copies in retail book stores. (The store box contains promotional material and a license code to activate the internet subscription.)
myCCset
<< <i>I sent the money in 3 months ago........Where's the book ??? LOL >>
not funny, that clown tied up numerous peoples cash for 3 years, and when things were finally sorted out, it was whitman that made good, not JT.
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
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<< <i>Volume I of the 4th Edition was published in 2000, and mine is getting pretty beat up by now. So a new edition will be helpful. However, I do not plan to pay for it in advance, and I don't recommend that for anyone else either.
Why is that? Won't the pre-order price be lower? >>
anyone dumb enough to pre-order that book deserves what they get-seriously
Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
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<< <i>Volume I of the 4th Edition was published in 2000, and mine is getting pretty beat up by now. So a new edition will be helpful. However, I do not plan to pay for it in advance, and I don't recommend that for anyone else either.
Why is that? Won't the pre-order price be lower? >>
anyone dumb enough to pre-order that book deserves what they get-seriously
That is the way "I" remember it.
When Whitman gets something on their schedule they get it done! Expect it in 2008, probably by the ANA.
As for pricing, I gave prices for the earlier volumes and I made sure that I gave prices that if someone cherrypicked a variety, they could expect that price from the marketplace. (sort of like a blue book for varieties)
Other people who submitted prices for other series, I think gave unrealistic wish-upon-a-star prices, which got collectors angry when they tried to sell.
Anyway, now eight years later the market has matured, but people are still referencing nearly 10 year old prices and information. It's a mess.
a.k.a "The BUFFINATOR"
@JohnF , Any updates on the next edition John?
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