Delivery Confirmation May Actually Be Worthless...2 "Real-life" Examples!!!

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  drwstr123 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 4, 2008 2:35AM

  I feel your pain. Had the same thing happen, only with a Registered. I eventually got it, but it shows the flaws in the System. Mike

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  BECOKA Posts: 16,972 ✭✭✭

  January 4, 2008 2:40AM

  I have had the same thing happen several times but when I ask the buyer to double check that no other family member picked it up or to check with the post office, I usually never hear from them again.
  
  edited: Anything over a certain amount I always use signature confirmation. It is really a joke that they don't combine the service.

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  p8nt Posts: 2,947 ✭✭✭

  January 4, 2008 2:42AM

  Sometimes the delivery confirmation is not even scanned at all to show that the package is in the system.

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  beartracks42 Posts: 2,834 ✭

  January 4, 2008 2:44AM

  I have another instance of delivery Confirmation being useless.
  
  I ordered a 2007 Legacy set from the mint for my wife in October. It, of course, went directly to "backordered" status. It was then shipped from the Memphis facility on 12-20 with a DHL. parcel post tracking #. Another package was also shipped in the same exact fashion on the same day and arrived on 12-28-07. I have talked to the mint three times, DHL once and the USPS twice. The mint told me three different things...the last being that it was shipped Registered(which I did not believe).
  Well, today it arrived, via the USPS mail system, in the usual mint box, not needing a signature and with a delivery confirmation label which contained the DHL label. Only yhe government could screw something up this badly and remain in business.

  Gary
  

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  Bmarkers Posts: 177

  January 4, 2008 2:46AM

  2 real life examples that have not ended yet.
  Already thinking the worst. Why?
  Looks like to me you're jumping the gun here. Relax and go through the process and see what happens.

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  Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭

  January 4, 2008 2:52AM

  
  
  << <i>I got the tracking # and went online to see where it might be. This was on 12/24...and what do I find? It shows as "Delivered" on 12/21!! >>
  
  
  
  This has happened to me a few times. In every case, the package was sitting at my local post office because the idiot carrier punched it in wrong and failed to leave a notice. In one case, I was here when he said he delivered. I should note that this crap only happens when my regular carrier is off and they rotate in monkeys from the local zoo. I can't remember my regular guy ever screwing up.
  
  Russ, NCNE

  eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC

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  LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭

  January 4, 2008 3:05AM

  Well, when there are 2 labels on a package, they usually just scan the insurance or register #. Nothing is that reliable except for the Register Mail. I have pickup packages that requires Signature Confirmation or insurances that requires a signature without having to sign for them!

  Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
  San Diego, CA
  
  
  

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  SeaEagleCoins Posts: 3,262 ✭

  January 4, 2008 3:56AM

  
  
  << <i>2 real life examples that have not ended yet.
  Already thinking the worst. Why?
  Looks like to me you're jumping the gun here. Relax and go through the process and see what happens. >>
  
  
  
  
  1st...the biggest PITA about all this is that they "have not ended yet"
  
  2nd...I'm not thinking the worst...just relating the facts and somewhat obvious possibilities and the info shared with me by a Postal "troubleshooter" who handles all the local claims re: lost/misdelivered mail
  
  3rd...actually, I am relaxed...even after over 10 phone calls...5 or 6 emails over one situation and another 5 or 6 over the other... and 30-45 minutes in the local Post Office... and nothing yet resolved...and all this over two rather small ticket items...
  
  it was that just after getting off with the woman from the PO and hearing what she had to say about the uselessness of Delivery Confirmation...well...I just thought I'd share this with you all...
  
  
  

  Re: Slabbed coins - There are some coins that LIVE within clear plastic and wear their labels with pride... while there are others that HIDE behind scratched plastic and are simply dragged along by a label. Then there are those coins that simply hang out, naked and free

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  YaHa Posts: 4,220 ✭

  January 4, 2008 12:21PM

  
  
  << <i>OK...I will try to keep this as simple as possible...and try to avoid the confusion found in a thread earlier today...the one with the PayPal problem...
  
  First issue...I won a lot on ebay last month from a seller who is also a Forum member (no...I will not give his name as it is irrelevent...I completely trust this individual...we've had past business). The lot was only $50. He sent it promptly by Insured Mail w/ Delivery Confirmation...so far, "by the book".
  
  Well, I was patient due to the Holidays...but when it got to almost 2 weeks, I got the tracking # and went online to see where it might be. This was on 12/24...and what do I find? It shows as "Delivered" on 12/21!!
  I have no idea where it was delivered...certainly not to me.
  
  I filed a complaint with my local PO as well as the USPS 800#. I'm on a friendly basis with the folks at my PO and they have made every effort to locate the package with no luck. My delivery person can not remember the exact package ( I do get many).
  
  So, now a claim needs to be filed...but has to be filed by the sender (who bought the insurance)...yet it shows in their system as delivered.
  
  FOR CLARITY...no signature is needed for Del. Conf. or "Black Label" Insurance...
  
  NOT TRUE!! Black labels have to be signed by person whom receives item is value is over $101.00 anything for insurance up to $100 does not have to be signed for.
  
  
  
  
  
  The black label insurance form must be signed on anything over $101.00. I had 2 shipments recieved today, one in Texas from Maryland and the other in California. both priority boxes went out on Dec 2 /08 at 10:30am. I think the problem is the you must use PRIORITY MAIL FLAT RATE BOXES FOR SHIPPING. Parcel post gets thrown around like Rodney King did back a few years ago.
  
  I never once had a problem with my local mail postal service. I would complain to your post master, because someone is f-ing up at your expense. Good Luck

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  ajia Posts: 5,411 ✭✭✭

  January 4, 2008 12:38PM

  It USED to be anything over $100 ($101+), but that was probably too much work.
  It's now anything over $200.
  
  Delivery confirmation is cr@p.
  I have a mail slot & packages with less than $201 insurance and/or delivery confirmation is routinely left on the porch.
  I have also had a package years ago that had someone standing on my porch sign for! Went to the P.O., they told me the package was signed for & showed me the signature. Did not even spell my name right!

  
  

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  BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 4, 2008 10:55PM

  If the second package for $100 was indeed delivered then the buyer would have to sign for it. If you go to your PO with the insurance tracking number and not the DC number they should be able to tell you if it was signed for or not. In fact with the newer system where you no longer sign the pink card but instead that little ePad thingy they could probably pull up his signature.
  
  When you use two different tracking services for the same package it looks like the PO will not always use both so in this instance DC will not be much good in a PP dispute since a PP rep must be able to track it from the comfort of his computer instead of gettin off hizazz and goin on down to the PO. In a way I don't blame them, since the USPS reserves the right to charge a fee for lookin this stuff up and if you do it too much they probly will. If the buyer is astute and dishonest and realizes this he could still screw you though you could initiate postal fraud threats.
  
  What oh what is a soul to do? Dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.
  
  edited to add that the gal at the PO said this morning that packages with ins of $200 or more MUST be signed for; looks like they raised the limit from $100 to $200.

  theknowitalltroll;

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  Mowgli Posts: 1,219 ✭

  January 5, 2008 2:47AM

  Having signature confirmation can still be a problem. My package was delivered to someone whose house address is the same as mine but on a different street two miles away. When I asked the seller where my coin was he said that he had a signature confirmation that it was delivered to me. He was not sympathetic but four days later the person who signed for the coin brought it to my house. The regular postman was on vacation that week. How they accepted a signature from somone whose name is not even close to mine on a street that is no where close to mine in name or location is beyond me. I was lucky to get the coin.
  
  BTW - I think it helped that this same person's mail was delivered to me weeks earlier and I drove it over to them.

  In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.

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  Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭

  January 5, 2008 2:51AM

  
  
  << <i>looks like they raised the limit from $100 to $200. >>
  
  
  
  Yeah, eight months ago.
  
  Russ, NCNE

  eBay consignment sales | | Collectibles from Resco CCC

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  ArizonaJack Posts: 4,029 ✭✭✭

  January 5, 2008 3:01AM

  everything that leaves me over $50 has sig confirm at my expense to protect me, i learned the hard way too

  " YOU SUCK " Awarded 5/18/08

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  prooflike Posts: 3,879 ✭✭

  January 5, 2008 3:27AM

  The only thing Delivery Confirmation guarantees is somebody paid for it. DC is one of the biggest scams the post office has going.

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  BAJJERFAN Posts: 31,694 ✭✭✭✭✭

  January 5, 2008 3:30AM

  
  
  << <i>
  
  << <i>looks like they raised the limit from $100 to $200. >>
  
  
  
  Yeah, eight months ago.
  
  Russ, NCNE >>
  
  
  
  better late than never

  theknowitalltroll;

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