<< <i>Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the double strike on the reverse, which leads to me to believe that the second strike on the obverse is post-mint. >>
IMO all that happened was the reverse from the initial striking was obliterated by the second striking. I m pretty sure it's real.
Yet another false die double strike, made outside the Mint. Sorry.
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Hmmm...to me it looks like if you rotate the 'first' strike a bit the elements really will not line up and there is the arc on the left hand side of the obverse...sort of like it was struck off center then struck correctly.
i think post mint tampering......................................but GREAT PICS!!!
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<< <i>Yet another false die double strike, made outside the Mint. Sorry. >>
I agree with this statement 100 percent. This appears to be a man-made error outside the US Mint. I've got a similar coin, but mine is an earlier date.
OK, we've got almost as many guesses as posts. Who's right?
-double struck -post mint fakery -photoshopped but with the winky winky emoticon -photoshopped without the irritating winky winky emoticon -dizzy wants to know the photo setup implying he is still thinking about taking his own images someday
Will the OP please step forward and give his thoughts on this? Images are great, now let's hear what he thinks happened here.
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Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
-double struck------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I definitely think so. -post mint fakery---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Not by me. -photoshopped but with the winky winky emoticon--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Don't own photoshop. -photoshopped without the irritating winky winky emoticon---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Don't own photoshop.
-dizzy wants to know the photo setup implying he is still thinking about taking his own images someday: 1) Nikon D80 2) Nikkor 200mm Micro/Macro Lens. 3) Copy Stand 4) 2 OTT Lights. 5) Lots of practice and patience.
Photoshoped for sure. Note that the head is offset horizontally to the Left, while the date is offset vertically up.
MFL
If you look at the faint/double struck date and liberty, they are parallel to each other. If you also look close to the faint/double struck Lincoln's head/body, it is perpendicular to both date and liberty. So, your sine and cosine theory is somewhat in ????
<< <i>Photoshoped for sure. Note that the head is offset horizontally to the Left, while the date is offset vertically up.
MFL >>
Actually, the head is offset to the right with the ghosting on the left. The date and LIBERTY have ghosting to their top and bottom respectively which would be consistent with a clockwise rotation of the planchet prior to the second stirke. The second strike would be the strongest of the two.
I'm certain that CaptHenway knows what he's talking about when he states "Yet another false die double strike, made outside the Mint.". Perhaps he will respond with how this is done.
I decided to change calling the bathroom the John and renamed it the Jim. I feel so much better saying I went to the Jim this morning.
To make a pair of false dies, place a coin between two sheets of relatively soft metal, such as aluminum or brass, and squeeze them all together in a bench vise. The design of the coin will be sunk into the two sheets of metal. Now move one (as in this case) or both sheets of metal relative to the coin and squeeze again. Some of the coin will be embossed up into the impression in the false die, giving a weak double strike. TD
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Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the double strike on the reverse, which leads to me to believe that the second strike on the obverse is post-mint. >>
IMO all that happened was the reverse from the initial striking was obliterated by the second striking. I
m pretty sure it's real.
Sorry.
I disagree, care to explain how it was made??
IMO all that happened was the reverse from the initial striking was obliterated by the second striking
I agree
JH
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Seriously, cool find!
K
my first reaction was neat! looks legit. a mint error.
i think post mint tampering......................................but GREAT PICS!!!
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MFL
<< <i>Yet another false die double strike, made outside the Mint.
Sorry. >>
I agree with this statement 100 percent. This appears to be a man-made error outside the US Mint. I've got a similar coin, but mine is an earlier date.
-double struck
-post mint fakery
-photoshopped but with the winky winky emoticon
-photoshopped without the irritating winky winky emoticon
-dizzy wants to know the photo setup implying he is still thinking about taking his own images someday
Will the OP please step forward and give his thoughts on this? Images are great, now let's hear what he thinks happened here.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
-post mint fakery---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Not by me.
-photoshopped but with the winky winky emoticon--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Don't own photoshop.
-photoshopped without the irritating winky winky emoticon---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Don't own photoshop.
-dizzy wants to know the photo setup implying he is still thinking about taking his own images someday:
1) Nikon D80
2) Nikkor 200mm Micro/Macro Lens.
3) Copy Stand
4) 2 OTT Lights.
5) Lots of practice and patience.
MFL
If you look at the faint/double struck date and liberty, they are parallel to each other. If you also look close to the faint/double struck Lincoln's head/body,
it is perpendicular to both date and liberty. So, your sine and cosine theory is somewhat in ????
<< <i>Photoshoped for sure. Note that the head is offset horizontally to the Left, while the date is offset vertically up.
MFL >>
Actually, the head is offset to the right with the ghosting on the left. The date and LIBERTY have ghosting to their top and bottom respectively which would be consistent with a clockwise rotation of the planchet prior to the second stirke. The second strike would be the strongest of the two.
I'm certain that CaptHenway knows what he's talking about when he states "Yet another false die double strike, made outside the Mint.". Perhaps he will respond with how this is done.
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Now move one (as in this case) or both sheets of metal relative to the coin and squeeze again. Some of the coin will be embossed up into the impression in the false die, giving a weak double strike.
TD