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Anyone else think these ebay ratings just down right suck?! I mean, I looked today and with shipping cost and time I've dropped. I'm not sure what people expect. I ship out the week that things are bought and I only charge $2.00 per card, .50 per card after that up to $9.00 because that's when I can just send it flat rate. What the H E double hockey stick do people want. Do they want it to go out the very next day. I mean, I do have a day job.
This is getting to be incredibly annoying. I swear people's expectations are way too high. I mean, if you bought something online from a store and paid for first class standard shipping, would you expect to receive it in the mail the next day. Geez!
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  • << <i> Do they want it to go out the very next day. I mean, I do have a day job. >>



    I ship 7 days a week/ 24 hours a day image


  • seems like you have a 100% rating and just a couple of 4/5s. If you had something I wanted, I wouldn't hesitate to buy from you. Honestly, I don't pay attention to anything but the total feedback score. I rarely look at the breakdown. EBAYs feedback system sucks, that much I think most of us agree.
    Mark B.

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  • It's simply about setting expectation. I know quite a few sellers who specify in their listings which day(s) they ship so that the buyer knows excatly when their items will go out.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    i dont pay a whole lot of attention to it,just another 5 star ebay stupid "if it aint broke dont fix it thing" to me that they are always messing with

    <I ship 7 days a week/ 24 hours a day>

    me too biff,thats how ya get all your repeat customers,by not being a sloth image
    and i still get email s where's my stuff,
    you just bid yesterday and paid, went in mail today, i imagine somewhere in the united states in a plane or truck or a camel image
  • Good point on the expectations thing. I think for future listings that I will put that in there that way there's no question as far as that goes. And I know most people just look at the 100%, it just kinda makes me mad when I know that I'm trying my hardest to get things out and people get pissed. That's all.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    Guru, worse things can happen in life, afterall you could have married your wife's sister.


    get a grip.



    Steve
    Good for you.
  • nam812nam812 Posts: 10,608 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Out of the corner for 5 minutes and look what you go and do.
  • I agree they are ridiculous, I usually do ship the next day, and I still get annoying emails. I sell a lot of books on ebay, I send them out media mail which can take longer, I send them a link to usps.com, so they can read what media mail is. If I was to ship first class I would have to charge more in shipping.
  • larryallen73larryallen73 Posts: 6,073 ✭✭✭
    Find something else to worry about. If this really concerns you I suggest you take some risks in life, find some new hobbies, drink more, etc....
  • Hey, I take risks. I post stories on here at the risk that someone might say something nice every once in a while. I think the odds are against me on this one. Well, with that said, back to the corner. And just so you guys know, I QUIT THIS HOBBY!!!!! image
  • Actually, I like to new detailed ratings (stars) and this is why. How many sellers have you seen with 99+% positives but you look at some of their auctions and they are bordering on false advertising? I think we all know what jerks 4SC are and yet they have very high positives as well. However, enabling people to rate them in those 4 extra areas actually can give potential buyers a better idea about the seller's reliability. This is especially true if you're looking to buy raw or unopened cards. I've considering purchasing from a few sellers with 99% and higher, but when I click to see the 4 detailed categories, I've seen a bunch of 4.2's to 4.4's and such. To me, a low 4 in "shipping time" wouldn't be a major concern. However, when I see a 4.2 in "product as described" or "shipping charges", I simply will not buy from that person. THink about it... a 4.2 means that 16% of the time, the buyer felt they did not get what the seller described... that is horrible!

    So anyway, I wouldn't worry too much if you get dinged on shipping time. I doubt that I am alone when I say that that is the least important number of the 4... unless of course you have like a 3 or somethingimage
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  • AllenAllen Posts: 7,167 ✭✭✭
    Some rate a 3 as average and think nobody is perfect even if the cards teleports to them. I am glad that it slams people who have crazy high or slow shipping.
  • WinPitcherWinPitcher Posts: 27,726 ✭✭✭
    I post stories on here at the risk that someone might say something nice every once in a while.



    Surely you jest.



    Steve
    Good for you.
  • people are generally reasonable, but you always get a few who byatch and moan. life is too short to stress over those stupid yellow stars lol.
  • They don't really matter, I think, because people really only look at your feedback, and couldn't care less about your ratings. They see how much the shipping cost when they buy and item from you, so even if you got the lowest possible shipping rating, that means nothing, because people see what you charge before they buy, so it dosen't really matter.

    Now you got the shipping time rating, well, that one is all up to you! I like to ship next day, or two tops, so if you do this, theres no way you can have a low shipping rating. Communication is also up to you, I like to stay in touch with the buyer every step of the way, so if you do that, there should be no problem there. And finaly, just describe your items as best as possible!

    Hope that helped image

    Giovanni
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    <drink more, etc.... >


    ok,thank youimage
  • bigfischebigfische Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    I always look at the description rating.
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  • I occasionally sell on ebay, and i ship as soon as payment is received if its during postal hours,i figure the buyer pays quick i ship quick only fair
  • detroitfan2detroitfan2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭✭
    Well, just to give you an idea, here's how I score my sellers:

    Item as described: Almost always give a 5 for PSA graded cards, since they pretty much always are as described.

    Communication: If you don't leave feedback first as a seller, the best you're going to get is a 4. If I don't receive any notification that let's me know you know I've won your auction (i.e. if you rely on ebay to do the communication), you're going to score lower than a 4.

    Shipping Time: If I receive it in a week or less, you get a 5. It goes down from there.

    Shipping and Handling Charges: If I feel you've made a buck on the shipping and handling, you're not getting a 5. $3.00 to ship 1 graded card does not receive a 5.

    I base my ratings on the fact that there still are sellers out there who (1) leave feedback first and otherwise let you know the status of your order without being asked, (2) ship the next possible day after receiving payment, and (3) do not attempt to make money on shipping charges (i.e. people who charge $1.75 or less to ship 1 graded card). If I'm going to give a 5 to someone who charges $3.00, what rating do I give the guy who charges $1.75?

    For example, I buy a ton of cards from the 4SC and DSL's of the world, and they all receive 5's across the boards except for shipping and handling charges, where they receive 3's.
  • KarbKarb Posts: 557 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Shipping and Handling Charges: If I feel you've made a buck on the shipping and handling, you're not getting a 5. $3.00 to ship 1 graded card does not receive a 5. >>



    Depends. If the 1 card is sent priority mail that right there is $4.60
    Robert

    Hoarding silver and collecting history
  • Bubble mailer cost money too, is that handling> image

    Check out that TWIT Steviedoobie that has been trolling here on the boards, 90% of his POSITIVES say slow shipping, could it be that 90% really ship slow?image
  • I think sellers should try and ship within 2-3 days upon reciept of paypal, and if they don't, to at least have the courtesy to email the buyer when their card will ship.

    As a seller, I usually ship within 2-3 days or I will email the buyer.
    As a buyer, I will usually ask the seller if it has shipped, if i havent seen or heard anything in 10 days. If they respond it's in the mail, or when they will put it in the mail. If they dont respond at all after 4 consecutive days, now 2 weeks, then i will warn them to please respond. A simple response of when it will be mailed is sufficient to settle me for another week.


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    Shipping and Handling Charges: If I feel you've made a buck on the shipping and handling, you're not getting a 5. $3.00 to ship 1 graded card does not receive a 5.
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    Thanks, i just added you to my blocked bidders list ...

    Its called shipping and HANDLING. Most everyone charges $3+ for a graded card these days. You are unreasonable. DC+Shipping+Mailer costs nearly $3 not to mention handling. I buy FAR more than i sell, and i consider $5 reasonable.
  • Here's how my cards ship.

    1. They go into a penny sleeve.
    2. They go into a top loader that fits their size. (Different for G/U cards)
    3. They then go into a team bag.
    4. Bubble mailer.
    5. Sealed.

    I really don't think anyone takes into account that the penny sleeve, the top loader, and the mailer are part of the cost. I think a lot of buyers just dont' think about it.
  • bigfischebigfische Posts: 2,252 ✭✭


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    Shipping and Handling Charges: If I feel you've made a buck on the shipping and handling, you're not getting a 5. $3.00 to ship 1 graded card does not receive a 5.
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    Thanks, i just added you to my blocked bidders list ...

    Its called shipping and HANDLING. Most everyone charges $3+ for a graded card these days. You are unreasonable. DC+Shipping+Mailer costs nearly $3 not to mention handling. I buy FAR more than i sell, and i consider $5 reasonable. >>



    Its not like he negs you, that was pretty harsh.
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    Shipping and Handling Charges: If I feel you've made a buck on the shipping and handling, you're not getting a 5. $3.00 to ship 1 graded card does not receive a 5.
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    Thanks, i just added you to my blocked bidders list ...

    Its called shipping and HANDLING. Most everyone charges $3+ for a graded card these days. You are unreasonable. DC+Shipping+Mailer costs nearly $3 not to mention handling. I buy FAR more than i sell, and i consider $5 reasonable. >>



    Its not like he negs you, that was pretty harsh. >>



    You think so? I don't want anyone bidding on my auctions that cant look at the s/h ahead of time and calculate their bid accordingly. Why would they give less than 5 stars if they knew what they were bidding going in. If you dont like the s/h charges, then either dont bid or bid accordingly. I dont want any dissatisfied buyers...

    I didnt really add anyone to my blocked bidders list, but i really would prefer that any buyer that would leave less than 5 stars for shipping when s/h is stated in the ad, wouldnt bid on my auctions.
  • bigfischebigfische Posts: 2,252 ✭✭


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    Shipping and Handling Charges: If I feel you've made a buck on the shipping and handling, you're not getting a 5. $3.00 to ship 1 graded card does not receive a 5.
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    Thanks, i just added you to my blocked bidders list ...

    Its called shipping and HANDLING. Most everyone charges $3+ for a graded card these days. You are unreasonable. DC+Shipping+Mailer costs nearly $3 not to mention handling. I buy FAR more than i sell, and i consider $5 reasonable. >>



    Its not like he negs you, that was pretty harsh. >>



    You think so? I don't want anyone bidding on my auctions that cant look at the s/h ahead of time and calculate their bid accordingly. Why would they give less than 5 stars if they knew what they were bidding going in. If you dont like the s/h charges, then either dont bid or bid accordingly. I dont want any dissatisfied buyers... >>



    Its not like people are going to decide to bid on your auctions by judging what other people think are too high of prices for shipping based on your star rating. They can clearly see your stated prices in your auctions and im sure they can also make up their own minds as to if they think they are too high or not.
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    Shipping and Handling Charges: If I feel you've made a buck on the shipping and handling, you're not getting a 5. $3.00 to ship 1 graded card does not receive a 5.
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    Thanks, i just added you to my blocked bidders list ...

    Its called shipping and HANDLING. Most everyone charges $3+ for a graded card these days. You are unreasonable. DC+Shipping+Mailer costs nearly $3 not to mention handling. I buy FAR more than i sell, and i consider $5 reasonable. >>



    Its not like he negs you, that was pretty harsh. >>



    You think so? I don't want anyone bidding on my auctions that cant look at the s/h ahead of time and calculate their bid accordingly. Why would they give less than 5 stars if they knew what they were bidding going in. If you dont like the s/h charges, then either dont bid or bid accordingly. I dont want any dissatisfied buyers... >>



    Its not like people are going to decide to bid on your auctions by judging what other people think are too high of prices for shipping based on your star rating. They can clearly see your stated prices in your auctions and im sure they can also make up their own minds as to if they think they are too high or not. >>



    EXACTLY. So no one should complain about s/h charges. I have only once given less than 5 stars, and that was because the seller DIDN'T state how much s/h was in their auction and they charged $6. If someone states there s/h fees in the ad, then they should be content with their final price.
  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭
    I ship twice a week and charge $4 for graded cards and $1 each additional and my rating is 4.7 for shipping/handling on about 200 recorded sales since ebay added that feature. I've had buyers post I'm the fastest shipper on ebay. Go figure! Maybe they're being sarcastic, or possibly they paid for an item the same day I was going to the post office to mail their item and got it quickly. No way of telling.

    I sell mostly graded cards and my item description rating is 4.9.
    I'm not sure how it's not 5.0 as a decent sized scan is included with every item I sell and it's graded by a third party, so the buyer knows exactly what they are buying. Maybe the rating is somewhat reflective of the grade PSA assigned the item. If the buyer got what they feel is a weak 8, they might gig the seller on it even though they're just the middleman on the deal. A 'so-called' professional grading company graded the item.

    I charge $4 for shipping and have a 4.7 rating for that. A buddy who also sells on ebay charges only $2 for shipping and he's rated at 4.5. What does that tell you about the ratings? They make no sense at all many times. I think my firend actually loses money on shipping but he sells many items under $10 and feels he won't get bidders on them unless his shipping rate is also low.

    I think as long as you disclose what your intentions are as a seller: shipping amount, how often you ship, posting feedback, acknowledging payment being received, and you package the item well, you should get a pretty decent rating in the end. No reason to lose sleep over it, I know I'm not.

    So yeah Guru, the ratings do suck at times, or are not truly a reflection on the seller.

    As a buyer I expect to receive an item within 10 days after a paypal payment and within 3 weeks after I mail a payment. I'm easy I guess.

  • detroitfan2detroitfan2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭✭
    <<You think so? I don't want anyone bidding on my auctions that cant look at the s/h ahead of time and calculate their bid accordingly. Why would they give less than 5 stars if they knew what they were bidding going in. If you dont like the s/h charges, then either dont bid or bid accordingly. I dont want any dissatisfied buyers...

    I didnt really add anyone to my blocked bidders list, but i really would prefer that any buyer that would leave less than 5 stars for shipping when s/h is stated in the ad, wouldnt bid on my auctions.>>


    I will say this - I think the "shipping and handling charges" is a bit of a strange category to have in the ratings, because it is known up front and normal bidders factor it in.

    That being said, a seller either loses money, loses a little money, breaks even, makes money, or makes a lot of money on shipping. They guys that break even or lose money get a 5 from me. If it clearly states $5 to ship a card and it cost the guy $2, he's not getting a 4 or a 5 on my rating just because I knew I was getting ripped off ahead of time. Just my philosophy. And I'm okay with being blocked because of it. I guess there's a first time for everything.

    bigfische, thanks for sticking up for me.

    -Tom
  • Detroitfan2, you have a very detailed way of rating sellers. Is your ID on eBay the same as it is here? If it is, looks like you're working on a set of 1953 Topps.
  • detroitfan2detroitfan2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭✭
    Hi gamehunter, yes my ebay id is also detroitfan2. I am working on the 53's as well as all Topps sets from the 1950's and along with a bunch of other sets. I'm about as unfocused as they come. image

    Didn't mean to sound too anal about my "ratings".

    Are you also working on the 53 Topps?

    -Tom
  • <Are you also working on the 53 Topps?

    I was until 2006. Finished it and then got an offer I couldn't refuse. Sold the set last summer.
    Your policy of rating sellers lower due to excessive shipping charges is a fair one, but it would really make me paranoid to know that my perfect communication rating of 5.0 would go down if I failed to leave feedback first. Hope you are able to finish your 53 Topps soon! Best of luck......
  • dontippetdontippet Posts: 2,617 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>EXACTLY. So no one should complain about s/h charges. I have only once given less than 5 stars, and that was because the seller DIDN'T state how much s/h was in their auction and they charged $6. If someone states there s/h fees in the ad, then they should be content with their final price. >>




    "Content" means I could leave a 3 rating. Remember, a 5 rating is excellent. If I only bid on auctions that I felt were going to be excellent in all categories, there would be a lot of auctions that I would have to skip.
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  • my cost for shipping 1 graded is 46 cents for the mailer, I then either wrap the card in bubble wrap or cardboard (usually cardboard) then I tape shut the mailer just in case, then I use a green DC then I drive to the post office where they charge me 2.22 for shipping + .46 for the mailer= 2.68 or if I use bubble wrap it's 2.05 + .46 = 2.51. so when I charge 3.00 for s/h I think I am being fair. I don't count the cost of the tape or the bubble wrap or the cardboard (depending on which one I use) or gas. yes I know I can get by for 1.30 + mailer or 1.47 + mailer, but then I don't have proof of delivery. I am really surprised when someone ships without a DC because the buyer could easily fine a claim as not received and seller could not prove otherwise.

    I have had people after 35 to 40 days email me where's my package I then check the DC and see it was dlvd 30 days ago to them . this problem seems to be happening more and more (I guess more scam artists or more forgetful people) .

    On ending my star rating are 4.9, 4.9 4.9 and then 4.8 , and I always ship within 1 or 2 days of being paid usually 1 day.
    some people can only be 100% happy if you give it to them. I also state my shipping in all my auctions.

    Maybe ebay should switch the fees from the sellers to the buyers (buyers premium) like most of the auction houses. LOL
    ok I am done rambling or ranting depending on your point of view.
  • rube26105rube26105 Posts: 10,225 ✭✭
    i charge 2.50 for a graded card in a 4x8 mailed- because i rock and ihave prob 75 % repeat buyers -somebody good in math can figure it out- not me lol 5.00 for 2 or more in a pri small box mail image

    <Maybe ebay should switch the fees from the sellers to the buyers>
    very good idea diamondman,
  • Do not forget that some of your "selling" fees my also include: listing, purchasing item/ shipping supplies, and GAS for you car to get it to Post Office(although- cheaper to print them off web sites).


    My theory is look over the auction and if I agree with ALL their conditions then I bid. If you do not state (fees, condition, return policy, etc.) then I STAY away!!!

    Just my 2 cent!

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  • << <i>Well, just to give you an idea, here's how I score my sellers:

    Item as described: Almost always give a 5 for PSA graded cards, since they pretty much always are as described.

    Communication: If you don't leave feedback first as a seller, the best you're going to get is a 4. If I don't receive any notification that let's me know you know I've won your auction (i.e. if you rely on ebay to do the communication), you're going to score lower than a 4.

    Shipping Time: If I receive it in a week or less, you get a 5. It goes down from there.

    Shipping and Handling Charges: If I feel you've made a buck on the shipping and handling, you're not getting a 5. $3.00 to ship 1 graded card does not receive a 5.

    I base my ratings on the fact that there still are sellers out there who (1) leave feedback first and otherwise let you know the status of your order without being asked, (2) ship the next possible day after receiving payment, and (3) do not attempt to make money on shipping charges (i.e. people who charge $1.75 or less to ship 1 graded card). If I'm going to give a 5 to someone who charges $3.00, what rating do I give the guy who charges $1.75?

    For example, I buy a ton of cards from the 4SC and DSL's of the world, and they all receive 5's across the boards except for shipping and handling charges, where they receive 3's. >>



    hmmm... $1.75 for a graded card, huh? The absolute minimum cost for me to mail 1 graded card is $2.72 ($2.22 for postage including DC + .50 cents for the mailer), and I think most average sellers are in the same boat. So, for you to expect a $1.75 shipping charge from my perspective is completely unreasonable.

    Now sure, some seller who deal in tremendously high volume and/or sell very expensive cards on average could probably charge less than $2.72 and still not take a loss (or, you could afford a small loss on postage if you're making a ton on the cards). I know you can get a high volume of bubble mailers for way less than the .50 cents I pay, but you can't save on postage unless you're willing to go without DC, but most average sellers are not going to take that risk (nor should they).

    Anyway, that $2.72 doesn't even include other costs like gas, etc, so I would say anything from $3.00-$3.50 if fair for one graded card. Heck, I charge $3.50 and my rating is 4.9, so apparently the vast majority of buyers don't have the unreasonable expectations that you do (thank god)!
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  • detroitfan2detroitfan2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭✭
    <<hmmm... $1.75 for a graded card, huh? The absolute minimum cost for me to mail 1 graded card is $2.72 ($2.22 for postage including DC + .50 cents for the mailer), and I think most average sellers are in the same boat. So, for you to expect a $1.75 shipping charge from my perspective is completely unreasonable.>>

    Nowhere did I say I expect it to cost $1.75 to ship a graded card. I expect it to cost what the seller says it will cost. What I said is that some sellers charge $1.75, and they deserve a better rating than those that charge double that. I also never said that $3 was unreasonable. It's reasonable and thus will receive a "4" or "reasonable" rating from me. It's also reasonable to take up to a week to put something in the mail after PayPal payment. But, many sellers try hard to get the item in the mail the next possible day, and I often receive the item within 3-4 days from payment. These are the sellers that deserve the 5.

    Since my ratings make so little sense, I'm curious what does make sense. For example, can others please post the shipping charges for 1 graded card that would receive a 1-5 rating for the seller's "shipping & handling charges" category.

    So far, it seems that:

    5 = $4.00 or less, unless seller = 4SC, then $4.00 = post a message here to complain
    4 = ?
    3 = ?
    2 = ?
    1 = ?
  • As long as the seller charges exactly what the listing said they would, no buyer should have a problem. As to when cards are shipped, I generally make one-two trips to the post office a week. Any buyer who expects their item to go immediately upon payment is unrealistic. The only exception would be if they are buying from a full-time dealer.

    The bigger problem with Ebay, IMHO, is the feedback system. Because Ebay does not monitor feedback and only removes upon receipt of a court order, the system is infected with retaliation. I had a transcation this summer where I paid promptly, but didn't receive the item for almost a month. I left negative feedback, and the seller promptly retaliated and left me negative feedback as well, even though I had done nothing to deserve it.

    Until Ebay deals with the problem of retaliatory negs, the feedback system will be useless, since most people are afraid of leaving negative feedback even when deserved because of potential retaliation. This is also why many sellers will not leave feedback until the buyer has left positive feedback indicating satisfaction with the item.
  • gosteelersgosteelers Posts: 2,668 ✭✭✭
    As to when cards are shipped, I generally make one-two trips to the post office a week. Any buyer who expects their item to go immediately upon payment is unrealistic.

    Why is that unrealistic? They paid you quickly to ship it out quickly. You knew which day the auction was ending when you set the auction up, correct?
  • It's unrealistic because the seller does not know which day the buyer will actually pay.

    If I sell ten items, the buyers will pay over a period of time. Some will pay the same day the auction ends, others may not pay for several days. But I'm not going to make a special trip to the post office every time a single payment comes in. I'm going to wait until I have three or four things to ship and make one trip to ship them all together.

    This is especially true for rural sellers for whom a trip to the post office may mean a 20-30 minute drive in lousy weather on bad roads.
  • Buyers (hopefully) aren't stupid enough to look at the eBay "shipping rating" to make up their mind if shipping reasonable. The whole eBay rating thing is an absolute J.O.K.E.
  • SDavidSDavid Posts: 1,584 ✭✭
    I've never paid any attention to the ratings, but the shipping time and charges ratings are especially pointless. The shipping time rating is meaningless because too many buyers blame sellers for the USPS' inconsistencies. First class mail can take 2 days or it can take 3 weeks. Most of the time it will be delivered within a week, but if it isn't and the buyer leaves the seller a 1 or 2, then that will obviously skew his whole average when he's done nothing wrong.

  • <<<Buyers (hopefully) aren't stupid enough to look at the eBay "shipping rating" to make up their mind if shipping reasonable. The whole eBay rating thing is an absolute J.O.K.E.>>>

    joke is an understatement. who has time to look at this stuff? seriously. To me, the only thing that is somewhat meaningful is the seller's rating. I say "somehat" since negative retaliation renders ebay feedback pretty much useless. The only thing that matters is getting the card to me within a week or two (if seller does not take paypal). If that happens, it's 5's all the way down with an occasional 4 thrown in to make it seem like I actually analyze this stuff.
    Mark B.

    Seeking primarily PSA graded pre-war "type" cards

    My PSA Registry Sets

    34 Goudey, 75 Topps Mini, Hall of Fame Complete Set, 1985 Topps Tiffany, Hall of Fame Players Complete Set
  • it's 5's all the way down with an occasional 4 thrown in to make it seem like I actually analyze this stuff. >>




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  • 262Runner262Runner Posts: 606 ✭✭✭
    The Ebay feedback system is basically useless. Sellers that deserve negatives avoid most of them with the threat of retaliation. Until Ebay finds a way to end retalitory feedback, then feedback ratings will never be a true representation of a sellers ability to provide products as listed in a timely manner at a fair shipping cost.

    262

    Collecting all cards - Gus Zernial
    Post Cereal both raw and PSA Graded (1961-1963)

  • zep33zep33 Posts: 6,897 ✭✭✭
    I started a thread on this subject a couple months ago. I don't like the ratings system whatsoever.

    Some guy brought my levels all down and when I asked him why he did that (there was absolutely nothing wrong with the transaction to give him any reason to)
    He replied some crap like "No one is perfect so I never give perfect scores" It's people like that that ruin that stupid ebay idea
  • cardbendercardbender Posts: 1,831 ✭✭


    << <i>It's unrealistic because the seller does not know which day the buyer will actually pay.

    If I sell ten items, the buyers will pay over a period of time. Some will pay the same day the auction ends, others may not pay for several days. But I'm not going to make a special trip to the post office every time a single payment comes in. I'm going to wait until I have three or four things to ship and make one trip to ship them all together.

    This is especially true for rural sellers for whom a trip to the post office may mean a 20-30 minute drive in lousy weather on bad roads. >>



    This is exactly what I do. I make two trips a week to the P.O. On occasion I'll make three trips. I'm certainly not going to drive to the post office for only one item to mail out. Plus many people still pay with checks, so you never know when their payment will arrive.

    Communication is a two way street. Why do buyers sometimes not go thru the ebay checkout or respond to the emailed invoice and simply mail a check? That's makes their item delayed in shipping.

    Some people take two weeks to pay. Which is fine. But why do they then expect outstanding, next day service?

    I've often thought about putting something like 'shipping is done with the same speed as it takes your payment to get here' in my listings.
  • jimq112jimq112 Posts: 3,511 ✭✭✭
    Does anybody really care about a buyer's feedback %? I'm going to get my 2nd retaliatory negative tomorrow on my buying ID. I'll be at 98%. Think anybody won't want my $?
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