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Ok so I guess I am hooked. The next day I have off I want to go look through the shop I was last in with a little more time on my hands. I'm figuring I can keep about five good images in my head with certainty. So here's my question and I'm sure I'll get some varying opinions.

What would you say the top 5 VAMS to look for are that:

1. Are desirable in the VAM community.

2. Don't cost a ton of money if they aren't VAM's. That way to minimize lose since I'm still new and learning. Really don't want to make a mistake on a CC VAM.

3. Are semi easy to spot and doesn't have several subsets that one is desirable and another isn't. When I say semi easy to spot, I mean I don't want to be counting reeds or something the likes there of.
I'll see your bunny with a pancake on his head and raise you a Siamese cat with a miniature pumpkin on his head.

You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.


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  • This may be interesting to learn what some of the VAMers think.

    Make sure your checking the coins in older holders for VAMs, remember these companies didn't recognize them unless they were a red book variety at the time they were graded.
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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,928 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Great topic- I'm new to the VAM world, too, so I'm looking forward to what everyone has to say...
    You Suck! Awarded 6/2008- 1901-O Micro O Morgan, 8/2008- 1878 VAM-123 Morgan, 9/2022 1888-O VAM-1B3 H8 Morgan | Senior Regional Representative- ANACS Coin Grading. Posted opinions on coins are my own, and are not an official ANACS opinion.
  • Here's what I do when cherrypicking VAMS without a lot of time.

    First, get to know CLASHED DIES, especially a clashed "N" or "G" on the obverse under the jaw, a clashed "S" or "T" in the hair vee, and/or a clashed "M" over IN GOD WE TRUST on the reverse. Most of these are VAMs which carry a premium.

    Next, I look for doubled dates, ears, profiles, mintmarks, arrow feathers, and/or arrows. Not all carry a premium, but many do.

    Die cracks do not a VAM make. What I mean by this is that, if you can't see the die crack or break with the naked eye, it is usually not a signifiacnt VAM. Although, keep your eye out for die cracks and breaks that you can see with the naked eye, and especially ones that have damaged the letters or features of the coin.

    Also, get to know your "Dates in the Denticles". These are also easy to pick out with just a magnifying glass and can be significant.

    Die gouges might a VAM make, but like die cracks and breaks, are usually just an identifier for non-significant VAMS. If you can see a die gouge with the naked eye, grab it. These have good potential for a premium.

    I've found that it's just too hard for me to remember all dates and mints with significant VAMS, so when I cherrypick, I make sure I purchase the coin as if it weren't a significant VAM, i.e. if I get it home and it isn't, I want to be able to off it for close to what I paid.

    I'm sure others will chime in with more advice, but anyway, happy hunting!!

    And, good luck!

    HTH,

    Rick

  • 1878 vams 14.11, and 44. 1887 vam 1a. 1888-o vams 1b and 4
    If I was half as smart as I am dumb Iwould be a genious
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  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    Here are some from among the very common/affordable dates.

    1880 : VAM-23 and VAM-39A
    1886 : VAM-20
    1887 : VAM-1A and VAM-1B, 7/6
    1887-O : VAM-22A, 7/6
    1888-O : VAM-1B, VAM-7A and the oval Os (VAM-4 hot lips, but dealers know to look for them)
    1889 : VAM-23A and bar wings
    1889-O : VAM-1A, VAM-20A and oval Os
    1899-O : micro o
    1891 : VAM-2A
    1900-O : VAM-29A, O/CC, and the counterfeits (micro o and VAM-22)
    1902-O : micro o
    1921-D : VAM-1X

    Select Rarities -- DMPLs and VAMs
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  • direwolf1972direwolf1972 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭
    Went to coin shop today. 4 Morgans and 1 Peace dollar in car. Have to head out to dinner cant wait to get home and photo them.
    I'll see your bunny with a pancake on his head and raise you a Siamese cat with a miniature pumpkin on his head.

    You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.


  • direwolf1972direwolf1972 Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭
    Pretty sure the first one is 1888-O VAM-24. The second picture I'm not as sure about which 1888 oval O it is yet. Still working on secondary properties.

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    I'll see your bunny with a pancake on his head and raise you a Siamese cat with a miniature pumpkin on his head.

    You wouldn't believe how long it took to get him to sit still for this.


  • mis-read the question.

    1. long nock 1878
    2. look for clashed "E" under tailfeathers on 1884 O, 1886 O, 1891 O
    3. 1879, look for the rev. 1878 parallel arrow
    4. Learn the different 1883 O's
    This is a very dumb ass thread. - Laura Sperber - Tuesday January 09, 2007 11:16 AM image

    Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 20,094 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Applying all of you criteria, I'd say 5 that really fit are:

    1878 VAM 14.11 (although this might be mistakable for VAM 14.2 if you're careless)
    1878 VAM 44
    1878-S Long nock
    1888-O VAM 4
    1903-S Micro S

    All are Top 100 coins, so they've been widely sought for 10 years, but they're always going to be desirable VAMs.

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