Sometimes the blakesley effect can be hard to see. Something else to look for is tapering of the planchet in the area of the clip. I agree with you two guys, these look like post-mint alteration.
Hopefully seanq sees this thread as he is the MAN with this kind of stuff
I think they're fakes...I agree, sean-q is the man when it comes to these!
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Someone sent out the Clip Signal™ and pointed me to this thread. Gee, thanks for the kind words, guys.
The two straight clipped zinc cents in the first link are almost certainly not genuine. In my experience real zinc cent clips will show moderate to strong Blakesley effect regardless of the size of the clip, and on these two coins I don't see any evidence of Blakesley at all. The rims at the sides of the clips are also suspiciously strong. The '05-D if genuine would be a very rare coin, so I doubt that date was chosen by accident.
Zinc cent clips are among the easiest to attribute because the inside edge of the clip will be copper, since the blanks are plated after they are punched. If the zinc core is showing on the inside of the clip, it was cut after it was struck. It might not hurt to ask that seller to describe the edge inside the clip, many of these scammers have such a limited understanding of the minting process that they might not know what the "right" answer is.
The 1958 in the second link is also suspicious, though the photo isn't clear enough for me to see the rim where it meets the clip. It's a low value coin even if genuine, and not a particularly hard date to find with a clip, so I wouldn't recommend risking a lot to acquire it.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
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Hopefully seanq sees this thread as he is the MAN with this kind of stuff
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The two straight clipped zinc cents in the first link are almost certainly not genuine. In my experience real zinc cent clips will show moderate to strong Blakesley effect regardless of the size of the clip, and on these two coins I don't see any evidence of Blakesley at all. The rims at the sides of the clips are also suspiciously strong. The '05-D if genuine would be a very rare coin, so I doubt that date was chosen by accident.
Zinc cent clips are among the easiest to attribute because the inside edge of the clip will be copper, since the blanks are plated after they are punched. If the zinc core is showing on the inside of the clip, it was cut after it was struck. It might not hurt to ask that seller to describe the edge inside the clip, many of these scammers have such a limited understanding of the minting process that they might not know what the "right" answer is.
The 1958 in the second link is also suspicious, though the photo isn't clear enough for me to see the rim where it meets the clip. It's a low value coin even if genuine, and not a particularly hard date to find with a clip, so I wouldn't recommend risking a lot to acquire it.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor