Lord M always writes entertaining posts, I especially like the ones he posts on the metal detecting board. This is a great story where a reasonable price was paid for reasonable coins. Just good fun!
<< <i>OK. Preliminary list of the 23 Morgans. Quickie, first-impression grades- don't hold me to 'em.
1878-S, F-VF-ish; nice grey midgrade CircCam
1879 VF-ish, cleaned, not horrible
1879-O VG-F-ish, dark, many rim nicks
1879-S (in 2x2) VG-ish, old scrubbing, some hits
1880 (in 2x2) ditto
1882 VG-F; medium grey CircCam- decent
1883 G4 medium-dark grey; probably original, but worn
1884 F+; not bad but peeling the tape off the front took some of the toning with it- a post-acetone soft cloth rub should even things back out without making it too shiny
1886-O VF-ish, slate grey, light CircCam, nice
1887-O (in 2x2) VG-ish, scrubby like the previous ones in 2x2s
1880-O (in 2x2) AG, rough, looks like it was sandpapered
1889 AU, goldish color, faint luster, very SWEET for the price
1889-O (in 2x2) VF+ to XF, cleaned but not as bad as the previous ones in 2x2s; overall the 2x2 holdered ones have that slightly abused flea market appearance
1891-O FR2
1896-O VF+, grey, quite nice; the look I like in a circ Morgan
1899-O G4; quite dark with black toning, but lighter devices makes for excellent CircCam contrast
1900-O AG (in 2x2)
1900-O VG+-F, small rim tick at 12:00
1901-O G-VG; dark, rim bump at 3:00
1921 AU; not much luster but decent
1921 ditto, except with a gash on the cheek
1921 AU55-58; faint cartwheel luster under toning- nice
1921-D XF+, goldish toning, not bad. (Boy, I forgot how tiny the mintmarks were on these!)
There you have it. A thumbnail sketch of the Morgans. I will have to do the Peace and Ike dollars later and I'm now not so sure I am gonna do the scans of the Morgans tonight, after all. I am too tired. Besides, they have to be acetoned and all that.
I'm off to bed for a nap, soon. I'll probably carry the hoard to work with me for fun. Won't be able to scan pics, but will be able to examine them more and give a rundown of the Peace and Ike dollars. Besides, I have a coworker who wants Ikes for her hubby, who's a stage magician. If they're not that lustrous and there is nothing special in them (tell me what to look for, Ike-a-zoids), then I will sell them to her at work for her hubby's coin tricks. >>
Congrats LM. This was a very enjoyable thread. BTW, good job on the 96-O.
<< <i> LordM, For us non-Morgan guys, are any of those dates anything special? >>
Barry- I'm one of you non-Morgan guys, myself! I haven't a freakin' clue! I mean, I know about the '93-S and the CC coins and the '95-P proof only issue, but beyond that, I'm just as clueless as you are. I've never collected Morgan dollars, though I sell them occasionally, of course. I haven't played with them enough to get a feel for the series.
In fact, I was just cracking jokes at the Morganites' expense earlier today on the Darkside Forum, just before I posted this thread. (See the thread over there with "cruel" in the title- I ain't gonna link y'all to it, or I'll be runnin' outta here with a posse of Morganiacs waving nooses and burning torches!)
Funny how destiny works.
Y'all ain't made a VAM searcher outta me yet, but it looks like my Morgan-scorn will be softening a little. For now.
As to the dates, I haven't looked 'um up yet. DJCoinz just congratulated me on the '96-O, for what that's worth. But that could just be because it is an attractive coin. (It is.)
BTW, the closest thing to acetone in this household is ladymarcovan's nail polish remover. But it isn't pure acetone. I have used it before but I know it is best to use the real stuff instead of commercial nail polish remover. And I don't feel like carrying a bottle of nail polish remover to work in my briefcase, anyway.
I have a bottle of Goo-Gone, though.
OK to use? I've heard it's safe. True?
Some of the coins are a little tacky from the tape across their faces but I suspect it hadn't been on there terribly long. It wasn't that awful old yellowed tape that leaves a stripe on coins over time. I suspect these will be just fine in that regard, once I treat 'em.
I didn't follow the whole thread but I caught the part about putting scotch tape over your coins too label them. Neat idea! I just finished my buffalos and I'm going back to do all my mercs and lincolns.
I hope I got you back LM.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
LordM, sounds like you need a relationship with a dealer who can finance your buys (or partner) when necessary. Keep passing wooden nickels and someday you're gonna get a call for some great stuff and need to be able to pay fair to get it. The right partner may also be able to help sell the stuff.
<< <i>LordM, sounds like you need a relationship with a dealer who can finance your buys (or partner) when necessary. Keep passing wooden nickels and someday you're gonna get a call for some great stuff and need to be able to pay fair to get it. The right partner may also be able to help sell the stuff.
<< <i>LordM, sounds like you need a relationship with a dealer who can finance your buys (or partner) when necessary. Keep passing wooden nickels and someday you're gonna get a call for some great stuff and need to be able to pay fair to get it. The right partner may also be able to help sell the stuff.
WH >>
I do have a financial backer in my uncle, who has fairly deep pockets and has gone from being a gold and silver hoarder to a semi-collector. He's bought stuff like one of RYK's former Dahlonega half-eagles, an AU Charlotte piece from somebody else, and a couple of Bechtlers. So needless to say, he plays in a league far beyond my budget, but never having really been a collector, he leans on me for advice sometimes. He is generous in buying stuff from me and giving me good commissions, so it is a symbiotic relationship.
However, he doesn't do the Internet much and he pays via snailmail, with out of state personal checks. He mails the checks like lightning, but sometimes with them clearing the bank and so on, it takes a while for the finances to be in the pipeline. So he's got good money but slow money.
I have quit selling any kind of gold except tiny Indian fanams at my booth at the antique mall now, and immediately flip it all to him. He gets a lot of my silver dollars and duplicate silver, too. Normally this lot would probably go to him but I will probably disperse it on BST and/or eBay rather than to him this time around because my PayPal account needs feeding, as do two forum members to whom I owe money right now. Plus, if I have money in PayPal, I can feed my Roman coin addiction.
The VAM pickers here would like to see scans of a couple morgans...and pay you well if anything turns up...
Reverse side only: 1878-S, F-VF-ish; nice grey midgrade CircCam Obverse side only: 1889 AU, goldish color, faint luster, very SWEET for the price Reverse side only: 1901-O G-VG; dark, rim bump at 3:00
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Excellent job LordM....with both your recent acquisition and the relaying of the events. I bet you could make some money putting some of your adventures into a book.
<< <i>The VAM pickers here would like to see scans of a couple morgans...and pay you well if anything turns up...
Reverse side only: 1878-S, F-VF-ish; nice grey midgrade CircCam Obverse side only: 1889 AU, goldish color, faint luster, very SWEET for the price Reverse side only: 1901-O G-VG; dark, rim bump at 3:00
and the 1921-D of course... >>
Thy wish is my command, O Wolfy One. Just gimme a little while. I will try to do that this weekend while I'm home. Weekends off are a rarity in the hotel/resort biz, but somehow I managed it this week, without even asking. Weird.
I was hoping you VAMpires would gimme a list of stuff to scan, so I don't have to scan 'em all.
Some of us want to see that clipped Peace dollar, too. Meaning me.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
Lord M--this has to be the best thread I have ever read. Fantastic job of keeping all of us on the edge of our seats, just waiting to hear and see what you bought. Keep up the good works. Enjoy reading your post all of the time. Have a great new year all you fellow coin collectors. Olmanjon
I came into work this AM and found a weekend's worth of postings on this thread. This will put it back on the front page so that we can all enjoy it without looking for it. I agree with you on that clipped Peace. At first thought I said it was after minting damage, but after closer investigation, the coins edges were held tight while the die clipped the edge. Like most of reading this thread, it has been an adventure. This has to be some record for postings in such a short time.
The clip is absolutely genuine, and slightly larger than the average size for the series. Most of the clipped Peace Dollars I've seen have been dated 1922 or 1923, so it's not terribly scarce, but still a nice representative coin for the type. I don't track eBay prices realized on these like I do for other denominations, but I'd think it was easily worth $20 or so. Certainly a nice little bonus. Thanks for sharing.
Sean Reynolds
Incomplete planchets wanted, especially Lincoln Cents & type coins.
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
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<< <i>OK. Preliminary list of the 23 Morgans. Quickie, first-impression grades- don't hold me to 'em.
1878-S, F-VF-ish; nice grey midgrade CircCam
1879 VF-ish, cleaned, not horrible
1879-O VG-F-ish, dark, many rim nicks
1879-S (in 2x2) VG-ish, old scrubbing, some hits
1880 (in 2x2) ditto
1882 VG-F; medium grey CircCam- decent
1883 G4 medium-dark grey; probably original, but worn
1884 F+; not bad but peeling the tape off the front took some of the toning with it- a post-acetone soft cloth rub should even things back out without making it too shiny
1886-O VF-ish, slate grey, light CircCam, nice
1887-O (in 2x2) VG-ish, scrubby like the previous ones in 2x2s
1880-O (in 2x2) AG, rough, looks like it was sandpapered
1889 AU, goldish color, faint luster, very SWEET for the price
1889-O (in 2x2) VF+ to XF, cleaned but not as bad as the previous ones in 2x2s; overall the 2x2 holdered ones have that slightly abused flea market appearance
1891-O FR2
1896-O VF+, grey, quite nice; the look I like in a circ Morgan
1899-O G4; quite dark with black toning, but lighter devices makes for excellent CircCam contrast
1900-O AG (in 2x2)
1900-O VG+-F, small rim tick at 12:00
1901-O G-VG; dark, rim bump at 3:00
1921 AU; not much luster but decent
1921 ditto, except with a gash on the cheek
1921 AU55-58; faint cartwheel luster under toning- nice
1921-D XF+, goldish toning, not bad. (Boy, I forgot how tiny the mintmarks were on these!)
There you have it. A thumbnail sketch of the Morgans. I will have to do the Peace and Ike dollars later and I'm now not so sure I am gonna do the scans of the Morgans tonight, after all. I am too tired. Besides, they have to be acetoned and all that.
I'm off to bed for a nap, soon. I'll probably carry the hoard to work with me for fun. Won't be able to scan pics, but will be able to examine them more and give a rundown of the Peace and Ike dollars. Besides, I have a coworker who wants Ikes for her hubby, who's a stage magician. If they're not that lustrous and there is nothing special in them (tell me what to look for, Ike-a-zoids), then I will sell them to her at work for her hubby's coin tricks. >>
Congrats LM. This was a very enjoyable thread.
But you better get the book before the VAM pickers come.
Excellent Cliff Hanger
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<< <i> LordM,
For us non-Morgan guys, are any of those dates anything special? >>
Barry- I'm one of you non-Morgan guys, myself! I haven't a freakin' clue! I mean, I know about the '93-S and the CC coins and the '95-P proof only issue, but beyond that, I'm just as clueless as you are. I've never collected Morgan dollars, though I sell them occasionally, of course. I haven't played with them enough to get a feel for the series.
In fact, I was just cracking jokes at the Morganites' expense earlier today on the Darkside Forum, just before I posted this thread. (See the thread over there with "cruel" in the title- I ain't gonna link y'all to it, or I'll be runnin' outta here with a posse of Morganiacs waving nooses and burning torches!)
Funny how destiny works.
Y'all ain't made a VAM searcher outta me yet, but it looks like my Morgan-scorn will be softening a little. For now.
As to the dates, I haven't looked 'um up yet. DJCoinz just congratulated me on the '96-O, for what that's worth. But that could just be because it is an attractive coin. (It is.)
I have a bottle of Goo-Gone, though.
OK to use? I've heard it's safe. True?
Some of the coins are a little tacky from the tape across their faces but I suspect it hadn't been on there terribly long. It wasn't that awful old yellowed tape that leaves a stripe on coins over time. I suspect these will be just fine in that regard, once I treat 'em.
Always enjoy reading your ''adventure posts". Great reading. Thank you.
I just finished my buffalos and I'm going back to do all my mercs and lincolns.
I hope I got you back LM.
"Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working" Pablo Picasso
WH
<< <i>LordM, sounds like you need a relationship with a dealer who can finance your buys (or partner) when necessary. Keep passing wooden nickels and someday you're gonna get a call for some great stuff and need to be able to pay fair to get it. The right partner may also be able to help sell the stuff.
WH >>
I'm in
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Took about 20 minutes to read the entire thread starting at 11pm est.
Congratulations...
Gary
<< <i>LordM, sounds like you need a relationship with a dealer who can finance your buys (or partner) when necessary. Keep passing wooden nickels and someday you're gonna get a call for some great stuff and need to be able to pay fair to get it. The right partner may also be able to help sell the stuff.
WH >>
I do have a financial backer in my uncle, who has fairly deep pockets and has gone from being a gold and silver hoarder to a semi-collector. He's bought stuff like one of RYK's former Dahlonega half-eagles, an AU Charlotte piece from somebody else, and a couple of Bechtlers. So needless to say, he plays in a league far beyond my budget, but never having really been a collector, he leans on me for advice sometimes. He is generous in buying stuff from me and giving me good commissions, so it is a symbiotic relationship.
However, he doesn't do the Internet much and he pays via snailmail, with out of state personal checks. He mails the checks like lightning, but sometimes with them clearing the bank and so on, it takes a while for the finances to be in the pipeline. So he's got good money but slow money.
I have quit selling any kind of gold except tiny Indian fanams at my booth at the antique mall now, and immediately flip it all to him. He gets a lot of my silver dollars and duplicate silver, too. Normally this lot would probably go to him but I will probably disperse it on BST and/or eBay rather than to him this time around because my PayPal account needs feeding, as do two forum members to whom I owe money right now. Plus, if I have money in PayPal, I can feed my Roman coin addiction.
<< <i>I have a bottle of Goo-Gone, though. OK to use? I've heard it's safe. True? >>
I've used it without any harm to the coin.
Reverse side only: 1878-S, F-VF-ish; nice grey midgrade CircCam
Obverse side only: 1889 AU, goldish color, faint luster, very SWEET for the price
Reverse side only: 1901-O G-VG; dark, rim bump at 3:00
and the 1921-D of course...
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Have you ever thought of selling some of your wooden nickels at this forum? I don't know what they run you, but I think I would like one.
<< <i>The VAM pickers here would like to see scans of a couple morgans...and pay you well if anything turns up...
Reverse side only: 1878-S, F-VF-ish; nice grey midgrade CircCam
Obverse side only: 1889 AU, goldish color, faint luster, very SWEET for the price
Reverse side only: 1901-O G-VG; dark, rim bump at 3:00
and the 1921-D of course... >>
Thy wish is my command, O Wolfy One. Just gimme a little while. I will try to do that this weekend while I'm home. Weekends off are a rarity in the hotel/resort biz, but somehow I managed it this week, without even asking. Weird.
I was hoping you VAMpires would gimme a list of stuff to scan, so I don't have to scan 'em all.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor
It's only a very small, minor clip. Like I said, I took it for post-mint damage at first. But I think it's the real deal.
Lemme go a-scanning.
<< <i>LordM,
For us non-Morgan guys, are any of those dates anything special? >>
Barry,
Hey thanks for showing your type set, spent an hour looking at everything. Very nice!
1878-S
Larger reverse scan of 1878-S
1889
Larger obverse scan of 1889
1901-O
Larger reverse scan of 1901-O
1921-D
Larger reverse scan of 1921-D
And, as requested by seanq, the apparent clipped-planchet Peace dollar.
Looks like the real deal to me. What say ye?
http://bit.ly/bxi7py
So, any VAM people wanna have a stab at these? I have no idea what y'all would be looking for, but have at 'em!
What do y'all think of the Peace dollar? I think it's a clip, for sure, albeit a very minor one.
Sean Reynolds
"Keep in mind that most of what passes as numismatic information is no more than tested opinion at best, and marketing blather at worst. However, I try to choose my words carefully, since I know that you guys are always watching." - Joe O'Connor