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The time has come and we need a change!
Griv
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I really enjoy this site and I totally respect the classic collectors but isn’t it time we just separate the good, the bad and the ugly?
I haven’t experienced a modern coin thread where there wasn’t a majority of posters that didn’t even collect those coins but yet posted endless attacks on that thread.
I think the time has com to separate the classics from the moderns and even the “so called” ultra moderns into separate forums. It is apparent that the crusty old farts will always feel the need to post crap since the thread titles are in one spot and these farts can’t help but pass gas.
I am tired of being attacked by bitter old buffoons that seem to think their crusty, corroded pieces of yesteryear is the end all be all in coin collecting. Farts is a totally excellent description here. Did I say stinky? Sorry, you might want to hold your breath if you can.
I haven’t experienced a modern coin thread where there wasn’t a majority of posters that didn’t even collect those coins but yet posted endless attacks on that thread.
I think the time has com to separate the classics from the moderns and even the “so called” ultra moderns into separate forums. It is apparent that the crusty old farts will always feel the need to post crap since the thread titles are in one spot and these farts can’t help but pass gas.
I am tired of being attacked by bitter old buffoons that seem to think their crusty, corroded pieces of yesteryear is the end all be all in coin collecting. Farts is a totally excellent description here. Did I say stinky? Sorry, you might want to hold your breath if you can.
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I guess I'll start... I would not like to see the forum divided into two categories. It seems like there would be too much jumping back and forth and a person would miss a lot of information and posts. I enjoy seeing the modern posts as well as the old crusty ones. If I don't collect or don't care about a particular series, discussion or question I just stop reading and find another. I guess that's too simple for some. I can see your point however as I've read a few threads that seem to go on forever ... back and forth between the haters and defenders.
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More than a method of preventing squabbles, I think of it in practical terms. Those with particular interests will be able to more easily find threads that appeal to them.
I personally prefer classic to modern, but will be the first to admit that modern coins have their good qualities, too. Cladking taught me well.
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<< <i>I really enjoy this site and I totally respect the classic collectors but isn’t it time we just separate the good, the bad and the ugly?
I haven’t experienced a modern coin thread where there wasn’t a majority of posters that didn’t even collect those coins but yet posted endless attacks on that thread.
I think the time has com to separate the classics from the moderns and even the “so called” ultra moderns into separate forums. It is apparent that the crusty old farts will always feel the need to post crap since the thread titles are in one spot and these farts can’t help but pass gas.
I am tired of being attacked by bitter old buffoons that seem to think their crusty, corroded pieces of yesteryear is the end all be all in coin collecting. Farts is a totally excellent description here. Did I say stinky? Sorry, you might want to hold your breath if you can. >>
seems like your really concerned about farts. maybe a better idea is a separate forum for the lactose intolerant.
K S
btw, not that it matters, but it just so happens that I DO COLLECT silver eagles.
but not once have i EVER whined & complained about how ngc or pcgs grades 'em.
K S
just remember the old saying. names never hurt you.
you can call me anything you want, i dont care. ((just dont call me late for dinner )))
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<< <i> It is apparent that the crusty old farts will always feel the need to post crap since the thread titles are in one spot and these farts can’t help but pass gas.
I am tired of being attacked by bitter old buffoons that seem to think their crusty, corroded pieces of yesteryear is the end all be all in coin collecting. Farts is a totally excellent description here. Did I say stinky? Sorry, you might want to hold your breath if you can. >>
That class you took in public relations is really working out.
I just love how you want respect for moderns while bashing both "crusty"/non-modern coins and collectors of said coins. Do you honestly think that p*ssing on a set of collectors is the best way to get their respect?
If you split the forum in to moderns and classic coins will the next split involve "original" classics and "cleaned/AT" classics?
–John Adams, 1826
The funny thing about that capability is that some people would only see theirown posts that way!
I do not expect PCGS to pay for that programming for a free forum, but it is possible to do.
I don't think we need separate forums, but if it will stop all the whining about "modern bashing" when someone criticizes ONE modern design or questions the crazy market for ONE particular modern bullion item, I'm all for it.
Griv, go back to the bridge you crawled out from under.
<< <i>Learn to ignore and keep collecting what you enjoy. Get some starch in your diapers while you're at it too. >>
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<< <i>I really enjoy this site and I totally respect the classic collectors but isn’t it time we just separate the good, the bad and the ugly?
I haven’t experienced a modern coin thread where there wasn’t a majority of posters that didn’t even collect those coins but yet posted endless attacks on that thread.
I think the time has com to separate the classics from the moderns and even the “so called” ultra moderns into separate forums. It is apparent that the crusty old farts will always feel the need to post crap since the thread titles are in one spot and these farts can’t help but pass gas.
I am tired of being attacked by bitter old buffoons that seem to think their crusty, corroded pieces of yesteryear is the end all be all in coin collecting. Farts is a totally excellent description here. Did I say stinky? Sorry, you might want to hold your breath if you can. >>
This suggestion has been made numerous times, I think it has some merit. However, your argument is weakened significantly by your obsession with flatulence and personally attacking members of the forum. In fact, based on your behavior, your position on the forum has been marginalized to the point that no matter what you say, hardly anyone would care. It is a shame because I think that you could have been a positive contributor if you had dropped the 'tude.
So, that type of discussion can take place here. It is frustrating when someone attacks a collecting area for the sake of attack and, yes, it rarely occurs with "classics". Oreville recently posted a thread on fractional gold - an area of collecting where the coins are practically being "given away" even after 100 years. Just ask Oreville in a PM about some of the "giveaways" recently at public auction. But, no one would ever consider going on a thread like that and attacking the gold coins (or the collectors who collect them) in a derogatory manner. Hopefully, the blanket attacks on various areas of moderns will dissapate in the months and years ahead as well.
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Russ, NCNE
I only jumped on this year on these forums.
If you do not like a thread, don't respond.
In fact, many bashing sessions ONLY get hotter when one/both won't, for the sake of PRIDE, let it go and not add fuel to the fire.
....always having to get the last word in.
WOW, that sounded like a conversation I just had with my kids.
So, If I collect Lincoln Cents from 1909 to date...Does that put me in both camps.
The Large Cents, do make me a crusty old fart.
The Presidential Dollars make me a cool modern type.
My Buffalo Gold makes me some super modern crap collecting gold monger.
I think I need a shower after talking about crusty and old...
HELP!! I am getting more confused by the minute!!
Truthfully, I have really enjoyed these forums and dividing up the US COIN Forum would be like breaking up a family.
The older sibllings going one way and the younger going another way.
I vote leave it alone.
What kind of family would we have if, we always got along?
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<< <i>Russ .... I love you man. >>
I assume that's in a manly sort of way. Not that there'd be anything wrong with it if it weren't.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>In fact, based on your behavior, your position on the forum has been marginalized to the point that no matter what you say, hardly anyone would care. It is a shame because I think that you could have been a positive contributor if you had dropped the 'tude.
I agree. However being an old fart is not a bad thing. It's a lot better than being young worm food. And admittedly this thread is one of complete frustration as every single modern thread gets bashed endlessly like it's some kind of game with these guys. I have a lot of respect for classic collectors and think they have a lot more challenges in building their sets but I don't like to hear from these same people about what trash I collect.
It boggles my mind that people actually resent what other people collect. I boggles my mind that people would not agree that bullion coins are coins despite the Congress creating them as coins. At times it grates on my nerves and yes, I get a tad mean in return but let me see some posts criticizing some of these modern bashers for starting the row in the first place.
Maybe I’ll just start posting on every single classic thread to say that classic coins are trash and should have a warning label. I’d have every last old fart (not just half) up in arms but yet they do this every time. You guys need to grow up and quit being such jerks.
–John Adams, 1826
Meltdown is right on with these comments. If you have something to add to a thread, then do so, but if its just to blast somebody's tastes in numismatics, then just read on. I enjoy hearing the opinions of all US collectors.
This comes up every 6-12 months it seems.
People always want to change the forum to suit themselves.
Ignore the bashers. FC, dorkkarl, and the others. They have nothing better to do but blabble so they know they are still alive.
There are many who start with moderns but learn about the classics from the same forum. That's a positive. The negative is morons that bash. The only thing on these forums that should be bashed are the so-called dollars
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Actually, my guess is that most would not bat an eye. Most collectors are comfortable in what they collect and do not feel they need the approval of others to justify. Tell me that Dahlonega gold is overrated/overpriced/not worth collecting or whatever? I will reply that if you feel that way, do not collect it. I will not get hysterical about it.
The fact is, for some reason, anything that can be construed of criticism of anything post-1964 is labeled modern-bashing and treated as if it is personal. The fact is that I do not care for Vermont copper, braided hair large cents, classic head half eagles, 3 cent nickels, Barber halves, Morgan and Peace dollars, most classic commems, Kennedy halves, and platinum eagles. If I post that I do not like these coins/series, a collector who does like them should not feel that it is a personal attack. Similarly, I like draped bust silver, middle date large cents, shield nickels, early gold, southern gold, seated quarters and halves, Barber quarters, Walker halves, Frankies, many modern commems, and SAEs. If you tell me that I am wasting my time or money on early gold, I might tell you that I think you are wrong, but if you do not like these coins, stay away. I certainly won't call you a "young snot-nosed punk".
The recurring "old fart" remark makes you look like an immature fool, and this is the last I will say on this matter.
<< <i> The only thing on these forums that should be bashed are the so-called dollars
You don't like Kennedys, but do like Frankies? Geez, are you stoned?
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>RYK,
You don't like Kennedys, but do like Frankies? Geez, are you stoned?
Russ, NCNE >>
Not unless you are going to stone me.
<< <i>Ignore the bashers. FC, dorkkarl, and the others. They have nothing better to do but blabble so they know they are still alive.
There are many who start with moderns but learn about the classics from the same forum. That's a positive. The negative is morons that bash. >>
wow, another pearl of wisdom from the same "anti-bash" yakking baboon that wrote:
<< <i>Rick, can you please teach dorkkarl once his lobotamy is finished?
His "people" skills need serious work
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Paleodale? Is that you? dorkkarl is the Paleodale alt? >>
good grief.
K S
<< <i>Actually, my guess is that most would not bat an eye. Most collectors are comfortable in what they collect and do not feel they need the approval of others to justify. Tell me that Dahlonega gold is overrated/overpriced/not worth collecting or whatever? I will reply that if you feel that way, do not collect it. I will not get hysterical about it. >>
In fact, what you should be saying is "thank you for not increasing the competition to buy them. Can you please convince a few more people that these things suck so I can buy them more cheaply?"
It is funny how often you read through a thread about moderns and the same people post the fact that they don't collect those coins (or worse). It does get old, but these are not always "old farts". They can be "young punks" or anything in between. My guess is that some have no real social skills, so they hide behind their computer and try to "pick a fight" for their own entertainment. Some may suffer from memory loss and they forget that they have told everyone their opinion already.
Some people are purist collectors and do not believe in selling coins (especially profitting from those sales) and since Modern coins are sold on TV, they are evil crap. Some are jealous because they can't afford some of the modern coins (gold and platinum especially).
But most are nice people who offer an opinion (since the poster usually asks for one) and try to help. It is a public forum, so you have to take the good with the bad. The ones who are really bad get sent packing!
I collect it......
Alan
<< <i>Moderns are trash, and should come with a warning label.
Russ, NCNE >>
Is that because they have noise in their sockets?
09/07/2006
<< <i>I really enjoy this site and I totally respect the classic collectors but isn’t it time we just separate the good, the bad and the ugly?
I haven’t experienced a modern coin thread where there wasn’t a majority of posters that didn’t even collect those coins but yet posted endless attacks on that thread.
I think the time has com to separate the classics from the moderns and even the “so called” ultra moderns into separate forums. It is apparent that the crusty old farts will always feel the need to post crap since the thread titles are in one spot and these farts can’t help but pass gas.
I am tired of being attacked by bitter old buffoons that seem to think their crusty, corroded pieces of yesteryear is the end all be all in coin collecting. Farts is a totally excellent description here. Did I say stinky? Sorry, you might want to hold your breath if you can. >>
i sense a revolution
That seems to fit a lot of people here bashing moderns so I’m not sure why it would be offending since it seems perfectly descriptive using the least number of words, plus it has a nice ring to it, but at the risk of pissing off the "non-old farts" I will let it go. Dang.
<< <i>“Old farts” are judgmental, highly opinionated and closed to new concepts or ideas. >>
Does anyone else here appreciate the irony of this statement or is it just me?