Home U.S. Coin Forum
Options

Down it goes

«1

Comments

  • compromonedascompromonedas Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭
    Time to buy!
    Keithimage
  • 7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
    the cartel is at it again, this time hitting us hard in asia

    time to buy up the spot market disposals......
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Dont' know how the holiday is affecting volume but if the volume today is expected to be thin the shorts might be selling heavy to try to lower the price enough to bring in trading stops on the longs which would allow the shorts to cover cheaper--a very profitable one day venture if it works. --jerry
  • CoxeCoxe Posts: 11,139
    It (PMs, oil, ...) cannot go up with confidence unless support is reestablished. Dips might represent buying opportunities for those so inclined. I haven't heard any news that would suggest a strengthening dollar or an exit from our other growing economic messes.
    Select Rarities -- DMPLs and VAMs
    NSDR - Life Member
    SSDC - Life Member
    ANA - Pay As I Go Member
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    No surprises here. Gold will go even lower before it rebounds and surpasses these recent levels. Before long it will move to well over $1000 at which time a battle royal will take place and then on to $1650.

    Free us some of your money and get ready to buy. Think about this. 5 years ago generic $20 St. Gaudens could be had for right at $300. Those that bought at that level are really liking it long about now.

    The dollar is Toast.
  • Steve27Steve27 Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭
    I hope that's an indicative of the direction of oil too.
    "It's far easier to fight for principles, than to live up to them." Adlai Stevenson
  • I saw something on tv yesterday saying that the real "supply and demand" factor for oil should place it at $60 a barrel but a lot of speculation
    and game playing is putting it close to $100
  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I hope that's an indicative of the direction of oil too. >>



    Nothing goes straight up without at least some retracing at some point. Both oil and gold are in bubble mode right now. Also heard a rumor this morning that the Saudi's are planning to increase production.

    John
  • LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Dont' know how the holiday is affecting volume but if the volume today is expected to be thin the shorts might be selling heavy to try to lower the price enough to bring in trading stops on the longs which would allow the shorts to cover cheaper--a very profitable one day venture if it works. --jerry >>



    It is just a partial holiday here, but not for the rest of the world, I think volume would be heavy.
    Coin Collector, Chicken Owner, Licensed Tax Preparer & Insurance Broker/Agent.
    San Diego, CA


    image
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,528 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No matter how far it drops, my Dansco 7070 gold page is still 90% naked and I refuse to crack out a graded coin for it image
  • RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 19,642 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Darn manipulators!! LOL
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Figured a 50-50 chance last week of a coordinated move to lower metals. The "bad" 50% won out. And good timing while a
    lot of players are not around today. Perfect PPT move. Thursday's FASB 157 report and Friday's TIC report will be bloody imo.
    Any major moves down should be over by then. I'd expect a snap-back by $750-$775 if not sooner. All depends on how cheap
    buyers wait and how many longs run scared.

    Do not think oil was overpriced at $95. In any case I'd like to be buying metals on this dip by Thursday/Friday if it lasts that long.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • GoldbullyGoldbully Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭✭
    down 3% at this juncture......image
  • tincuptincup Posts: 5,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    And silver down 4.5%.

    It won't last.... we have a couple of days for another buying opportunity. For that we should thank the manipulators.
    ----- kj
  • BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭


    << <i> Also heard a rumor this morning that the Saudi's are planning to increase production. >>



    From what I read, they've already promised more than they can produce.
    "Have a nice day!"
  • jhdflajhdfla Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i> Also heard a rumor this morning that the Saudi's are planning to increase production. >>



    From what I read, they've already promised more than they can produce. >>



    Ha ha, sounds like the FED...
    Better ramp up some OT for the presses.

    John
  • ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i> Also heard a rumor this morning that the Saudi's are planning to increase production. >>



    From what I read, they've already promised more than they can produce. >>




    They've said that before it just gloss IMO. OPEC has always cheated on production and the Saudi's are at or near max output for there wells without damage to them. You can't just drain a formation as fast as you can without damage to the wells, you have to let oil seep though the formations and keep them primed.
  • The sky is falling...the sky is falling image
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 44,528 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The sky is falling...the sky is falling image >>



    Better stock up on food image
    image


  • << <i>The sky is falling...the sky is falling image >>



    sho nuff?
    "Everyday above ground is a good day"

  • I read a very interesting article on BullionDirect's site Thursday evening. It
    was 'themed' on Gold hitting the $1000 mark.

    Gold: $740-$760 bottom before returning to over $800

    Silver: no prediction....but it did say..silver will need a lot of investors and
    speculators to maintain any price pressure because the fundamentals are
    just not there to sustain the current price.



    Jerry
  • That figures! I just put up a bunch of gold on eBay!


  • << <i>

    << <i>The sky is falling...the sky is falling image >>



    Better stock up on food image
    image >>





    Hey, I won 3 of the Cheerios pennies last week off the Goodwill Auction
    site.
  • HyperionHyperion Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭
    down down down to 650 so I can get a nice Saint for my 7070 !
  • GrivGriv Posts: 2,804
    Gold needs a correction and with the holidays coming I suspect there is a lot of profit-taking going on especially for the fearful. If you're in it for the quick buck then I suggest you sell short today and then buy back tomorrow.
  • LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I lost millions in the stock market last week. Why not gold?
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
    --"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
  • ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,101 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I saw something on tv yesterday saying that the real "supply and demand" factor for oil should place it at $60 a barrel but a lot of speculation
    and game playing is putting it close to $100 >>



    I believe this. Everyone and their mother will be pumping oil, and those cheating OPEC guys will pump like crazy to cash in on the $90 plus per barrel oil gravy train.
  • mach19mach19 Posts: 4,002 ✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>

    << <i> Also heard a rumor this morning that the Saudi's are planning to increase production. >>



    From what I read, they've already promised more than they can produce. >>




    They've said that before it just gloss IMO. OPEC has always cheated on production and the Saudi's are at or near max output for there wells without damage to them. You can't just drain a formation as fast as you can without damage to the wells, you have to let oil seep though the formations and keep them primed. >>




    The refinery's are @ max, So this maybe irrelevant.
    TIN SOLDIERS & NIXON COMING image
  • Yep, refining capacity is what's needed. And OPEC says it's going on a refinery building spree in several countries. Too bad we can't build any in the US.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

    image
  • BoomBoom Posts: 10,165
    And DOWN she goes. Watch for the window of opportunity to BUY.

    It will rebound quite well. We'll see.

    Later,

    Boomimage
  • moonshinemoonshine Posts: 1,039 ✭✭
    say when - I am counting my pennies.



  • For all you guys who were chasing gold and silver while it was going up last week-- the time to start buying is now, when it is getting hammered. Don't chase, let it come to you.
  • aficionadoaficionado Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭

    Perfect timing for the Dolly coins. Spouses that is.

    Platinum Anniv. set too. image

  • Do you think gold will head back up by next weekend? I hope so, because I have a bunch of eBay gold auctions ending then! image
  • mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    Somebody say food?


    image



    image

    image

    And these are just great for a snack. Had em all over Asia

    image
  • bluelobsterbluelobster Posts: 1,220 ✭✭✭
    Good stuff, Some of these posters were saying buy buy buy, now they're saying short it for a day? , at the low of the day no less LOL
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    According to quite a few charts on the internet, a strong bottom price (ie. great buying opportunity) lies at around $680 to $720 US per ounce.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)


  • << <i>Good stuff, Some of these posters were saying buy buy buy, now they're saying short it for a day? , at the low of the day no less LOL >>

    I'm looking to buy. This sell off will be temporary.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Good stuff, Some of these posters were saying buy buy buy, now they're saying short it for a day? , at the low of the day no less LOL >>



    No attacks on individuals here but it is a statistical fact that most people who try short term market timing get it almost exactly backwards. --jerry
  • roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Good stuff, Some of these posters were saying buy buy buy, now they're saying short it for a day? , at the low of the day no less LOL

    I don't recall anyone here saying to load up at $830 gold or even $820. Personally I said to hold back once it got over $810-$815.
    Maybe you were reading the gold bug threads on Kitco and got the 2 websites confused. Anyone who sold 1/3 into strength did fine.
    Personally, I only sold 10% into strength after $825.

    roadrunner
    Barbarous Relic No More, LSCC -GoldSeek--shadow stats--SafeHaven--321gold
  • DoubleEagle59DoubleEagle59 Posts: 8,376 ✭✭✭✭✭
    No attacks on individuals here but it is a statistical fact that most people who try short term market timing get it almost exactly backwards. --jerry

    I do agree with this - it's very dangerous trying to time these mini dips and peaks. Getting in and out of any market on a short term basis is better left with 'pros' and people on the inside.

    Recognize the long trend and stick with it.
    "Gold is money, and nothing else" (JP Morgan, 1912)

    "“Those who sacrifice liberty for security/safety deserve neither.“(Benjamin Franklin)

    "I only golf on days that end in 'Y'" (DE59)
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    The Saudis never actually increase production.....

    They just say that they will increase production....

    They jawbone the speculators.
    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage
  • 57loaded57loaded Posts: 4,967 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I saw something on tv yesterday saying that the real "supply and demand" factor for oil should place it at $60 a barrel but a lot of speculation
    and game playing is putting it close to $100 >>



    more like $70 from what i have heard, we will have to wait and see as well as the $$$ and it's float downward.
  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    Gold seems to be making an orderly return up over $805. If this keeps up, and I'm not saying it will, then gold could reclaim most of it's losses by morning. NY traders get back from holday and we could be back to the races. i mention this only because it reminds me of my days as a stock trader, looking at a stock chart and seeing it dip a week, month or year earlier down to some low level for one day and back up and thinking. "Wow, wish I'd have known to buy on that dip.". --jerry
  • BearBear Posts: 18,953 ✭✭✭
    Unless one is a professional trader in

    Precious metals, it is very difficult to

    know when to buy or when to sell. A

    collector like we all are needs to determine

    If our purchase or for long term or for a rapid flip.

    Further, our tolerance for risk will also impact our decision.

    That being said, for most of us, upon achieving

    a reasonable profit, it would not be a bad idea to take some

    profit off the table.

    There once was a place called
    Camelotimage


  • << <i>

    << <i>Good stuff, Some of these posters were saying buy buy buy, now they're saying short it for a day? , at the low of the day no less LOL >>



    No attacks on individuals here but it is a statistical fact that most people who try short term market timing get it almost exactly backwards. --jerry >>





    "exactly backwards" is the key part.
  • Sweeeeeeet! I'm gonna get me some gold!
  • streeterstreeter Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One thing that sends a little red flag to me right now with respect to the current price is that GOLD has made it to the front page of the LA Times.

    I don't know what THAT means but personally I quit buying about $550. I wish all you folks well in your pursuit to the top.
    Have a nice day
  • Standard pattern: larger moves forward, smaller moves backward...
    EAC member since 2011, one third of the way through my 1793 large cent type set

Leave a Comment

BoldItalicStrikethroughOrdered listUnordered list
Emoji
Image
Align leftAlign centerAlign rightToggle HTML viewToggle full pageToggle lights
Drop image/file