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If the Jackie Robinson $5 gold coin has a mintage of 24,000....

and it is way up in value, don't you think that the Jefferson liberty and the following liberty $10 coins ( w/ a mintage of only 20k) will skyrocket also?

Do you feel that the coins will shoot up in value after the mint is finally done shipping?

I have some antsy relatives, who saw the large flip I made with the washington spouses, and jumped on board w/ the Jefferson Liberties, but they are ready to sell for next to no profit now.

I think I am going to buy there unopened boxes, and ride the waive.

Opinions..........

Rob


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  • The Jeffs will probably appreciate as long as gold keeps going up, but I don't see these skyrocketing anytime soon.
  • By the time a 2nd bust design comes out, I think the Jeff proofs will really start to climb.


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  • LanLordLanLord Posts: 11,723 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Don't compare to the J Robinson $5 coin at 24k minted as it's the Unc coin that has just over 5k minted that is the high priced coin.

  • notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭
    To answer you question we need to speculate where the JRs are right now?
  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭
    That is what I was trying to findout.

    What are the mintage totals for the Jackie Robinson on all coins.

    rob
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  • ebaytraderebaytrader Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭


    << <i>That is what I was trying to findout.

    What are the mintage totals for the Jackie Robinson on all coins.

    rob >>




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  • TomBTomB Posts: 22,090 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe the price surge of the proof JR's is due to folks who are building type sets of $5 gold commems and who cannot afford the amazingly high price of the MS issue. Therefore, there is far greater demand for the proof coin than otherwise might have happened. This is not the same case as the FS issues since each has 40,000 units total vs. 29,000 units total for the JR's. Additionally, in my opinion, the $5 gold series might be more attractive to collect as type since the cost per unit is significantly less and far fewer issues have been released or are planned.
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  • Face it.............if gold hadn't spiked $75 in last 45 days 80-90% the FS coins would be under water. Where do you think they would be now if gold had dropped $75??

    IMO in 2-3 years vast majority will be selling as bullion coins. Sure the MS/PR70 will bring a little premium but MS/PR69s will be melt.

    24K is the only thing FS have over the performing artist series which sell below melt.

  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting question... let's take a closer look...

    The JR Proof sheets at $600 now - 10+ years later. The coin has performed about as well as a CD in the bank over the same past 10 years, give or take.

    What did the JR Proof coin have going for it prior to this year? Easy -a very low relative mintage for a proof gold Commem. How about now - 4 lower mintage Proof Gold Commems (assuming the spouse coins are even deemed gold commems as PCGS still does not believe that is the case for registry purposes??) and 4 more and 4 more for the next 10 years. So, has the "excitement" for the JR Proof (which resulted in a return close to that of a CD over the past 10 years) come to an end? We'll see, but, the coin has not been all that wonderful even for its first 10 year return, the way I see it. Just my 2 cents.

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  • 7over87over8 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭
    As mentioned previously, the comparison you are trying to make here is a skewed one.......

    The JR proof has a high mintage for a $5 gold proof and if it's unc sister were a high mintage as well, it would be worth just over melt.

    The proof JR is enjoying the benefit of having a very high priced unc sibling (with an ultra low mintage) and therefore has pressure put on it from type collectors desiring an example of the "type", thus demand shooting up for the proof.
  • The comparison may also be skewed because of different collector bases. The JR commem is one that would appeal to some baseball fans who don't otherwise collect coins.
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Let's see - also that there are about 40k unc.s and 40k proofs to be produced over 11 or so years even if each is different. I think future collectors will be bewildered by all and not necessarily willing to track down all 88 or 90 or however many coins there will be.

    How in the world would these coins be direct competitors with the JRs? I think as had been said elsewhere that these coins have very little significance and might as well be the "first dogs" issue - seriously, who really thinks these are significant commeroratives, or for that matter (okay get me on this) the presidential issue dollars themselves??
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  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "seriously, who really thinks these are significant commeroratives"

    I do. Why aren't they as significant as a tribute to the 2002 Olympic Winter games?

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  • GATGAT Posts: 3,146
    As I have said in past posts the only coins I believe that will have lasting values are the Liberty coins. I have no intention of purchasing any of the other spouses.
    USAF vet 1951-59
  • 53BKid53BKid Posts: 2,176 ✭✭✭
    Liberties only for me. Even graded, IMO the others will eventually trade for smaller premiums to melt than the regular issue commemoratives.
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  • ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,668 ✭✭✭
    The funny thing is that I'll bet the gold spouse mintages would be LOWER than they actually are if there were no mintage limits, as most of the people who loaded up on them would have lost interest. That's what happened to the Robinson $5s -- lack of interest led to the low mintage.
  • RarityRarity Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭✭
    I collect the Liberty Series and the 1st of First Spouse (Martha Washington) regardless of what people say. image


  • << <i>I collect the Liberty Series and the 1st of First Spouse (Martha Washington) regardless of what people say. image >>




    I also think the liberty series will be a big winner. But the coins look more like medals to me not commems.
  • RedStormRedStorm Posts: 231 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I collect the Liberty Series and the 1st of First Spouse (Martha Washington) regardless of what people say. image >>




    I also think the liberty series will be a big winner. But the coins look more like medals to me not commems. >>

    I agree, I think the Liberty coins will carry a nice premium over the others, say 40% more over time. I agree with most that the Martha and the rest will eventually be just a standard premium over bullion. However, as we go down the road with this program and get to some of the lessor spouses, mintages will likely start to be quite small. Those may "eventually" carry some premium. But just like the Buffalo silver dollar that was minted in HUGE numbers but carries a ridiculous premium because the design is popular, I think the same is almost certain with the Libs.


  • << <i>"seriously, who really thinks these are significant commeroratives"

    I do. Why aren't they as significant as a tribute to the 2002 Olympic Winter games?

    Wondercoin >>



    There is a well developed collector base for olympic coins both in the US and world.
    Coins from even the most obscure olympic games have more collector interest than the FSs.
    I suspect there will be few overseas orders for Millard Filmore's wife commemorative coin.

    As far as the Liberty coins I still say there are plenty of attractive images of Liberty on gold coins without having all the distracting info on obverse and reverse about the single/widowed president.

    If mint wants to do a popular gold series they should do one reproducing 20 classic images of Liberty from 1790-1933. Now that would be a series to collect.......not one of 40 women most of whose only claim to fame is that they married well.
  • 7Jaguars7Jaguars Posts: 7,750 ✭✭✭✭✭
    As he has saidl, the Winter Olympics are something more than accident of birth or planning (although I am not crazy about them either).
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    Well, just Love coins, period.

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