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Personally, I like the current format of Coin World. The articles are generally good, and it is of sufficient printing and physical quality that I can read it and throw it away within a week's time.
I recently got the new issue of CW, though. It seems that starting in mid November, they will be using an outside printer to print the issues, using some fancy, schmancy printer. It will be in full color, and have super quality pictures. Also, the paper used will be of much better quality (personally, I don't see what's wrong with the current paper, but that's just me).
As I read about these plans, one thing came to mind-- $$$$$$$. These changes are going to cost money. Had they announced that they were going to outsource the printing to China or Mexico, I would have been thrilled because the printing costs would have gone down. However, they are using a printer in Cincinnati, which probably does not come cheap.
Do you think the little people (meaning us) are going to get screwed with excessively high subscription rates, in order to get a slick new Coin World that no one really has asked for? Maybe if they want to make a change, someone should instruct the editor to write an editorial that has a shred of relevance, instead of the waste of ink that normally occurs in the editoral box each week.
I recently got the new issue of CW, though. It seems that starting in mid November, they will be using an outside printer to print the issues, using some fancy, schmancy printer. It will be in full color, and have super quality pictures. Also, the paper used will be of much better quality (personally, I don't see what's wrong with the current paper, but that's just me).
As I read about these plans, one thing came to mind-- $$$$$$$. These changes are going to cost money. Had they announced that they were going to outsource the printing to China or Mexico, I would have been thrilled because the printing costs would have gone down. However, they are using a printer in Cincinnati, which probably does not come cheap.
Do you think the little people (meaning us) are going to get screwed with excessively high subscription rates, in order to get a slick new Coin World that no one really has asked for? Maybe if they want to make a change, someone should instruct the editor to write an editorial that has a shred of relevance, instead of the waste of ink that normally occurs in the editoral box each week.
Always took candy from strangers
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
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these days, from the cost of ink, paper, delivery etc.
industry when this happened during the 1980s.
first it was this wish for super high quality mag/comics.
but then they started complaining it cost sooo much so the price
had to go up. and up again, and up again.
a comic book now costs 2-3 dollars each! yet another company,
gladstone, can produce their penny pincher line for 75 cents still.
almost exactly the same except no glossiness and you PAY MORE.
oooh pictures, is that not that the internet is for?? or maybe an insert
in the middle?
the end result for these collectables and magazines was lower sales
until, well, they almost imploded.
mismanagement here they come.
Well, just Love coins, period.
<< <i>Personally, I like the current format of Coin World. The articles are generally good, and it is of sufficient printing and physical quality that I can read it and throw it away within a week's time.
I recently got the new issue of CW, though. It seems that starting in mid November, they will be using an outside printer to print the issues, using some fancy, schmancy printer. It will be in full color, and have super quality pictures. Also, the paper used will be of much better quality (personally, I don't see what's wrong with the current paper, but that's just me).
As I read about these plans, one thing came to mind-- $$$$$$$. These changes are going to cost money. Had they announced that they were going to outsource the printing to China or Mexico, I would have been thrilled because the printing costs would have gone down. However, they are using a printer in Cincinnati, which probably does not come cheap.
Do you think the little people (meaning us) are going to get screwed with excessively high subscription rates, in order to get a slick new Coin World that no one really has asked for? Maybe if they want to make a change, someone should instruct the editor to write an editorial that has a shred of relevance, instead of the waste of ink that normally occurs in the editoral box each week. >>
Let's wait and see how the new product looks, and then make a judgement. I can't say for certain, but the change is most likely being done to increase colored advertisements. The way it is currently being done is that only certain pages can be in color based on how the pages lay on the printing plates. It costs more to set up colored plates (CMYK vs Black), so only specific pages are color eligible using their current printing process. They must have found a company that can create color plates cheaper than them (make vs. buy), with the result being a more visually appealing product and more revenue from advertisers.
As for outsourcing to China or Mexico, that is probably not possible as the content is too time sensitive. CW has an ad deadline of Wednesday, and the catalog mails the following Monday. It would take a minimum of 5 days if they were to outsource it to Mexico, and you would have to assume even longer if to China.
since you asked what i think, i'll tell you.........................
you should just drop your subscription since the magazine seems to bother you so much. then you'd have even more time for inane thread posting!!!!
here's what i wonder------why would a collector pay to have two coins graded but complain about approximately the same price to be kept up to date with a first class publication?? it's the same rant about the price of the GreySheet. in the end, if i buy two cups of coffee a day from the vending machine at work, i easily spend more than i would for the yearly CW subscription and the GreySheet subscription while getting less. think about it.....................
advertisments?
I wasn't aware of all the changes coming about but I did notice the price increase. $49.95 per year and 92.95 for two years, that includes the coin values mag as well as I've been getting since it came out.
You can save $8 per year if you drop coin values, but I like that and think that price is just fine.
I'm sure I'll sign on for two years again, but the cost increase is significant, no question there.
For a lot of us, we can show it as a deduction on taxes and I do want to keep receiving it. I'd agree that mailing it in a brown paper envelope would be a great idea. I'd pay an extra $10 a year just for that feature. Sadly, it doesn't seem to be in the cards.
I'm sure they will lose some subscribers over this, I don't know if they can make that up with the price increase given what I'm reading here about the upcoming changes. I like it just the way it is. Well, no I don't like all the adverts from certain "dealers" that we all know about, but otherwise I'm fine with it. Before the internet came along and back in the good old days, I'd read it from cover to cover. Nowadays I tend to skip all the ads and even a few stories.
John Marnard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace, 1920, page 235ff
<< <i> They should spend their money to put the paper in a plain envelope for mailing. I would really like to subscribe. >>
I do subscribe - but really wish they would do this. I hate having my letter carrier know I collect...
<< <i>As I read about these plans, one thing came to mind-- $$$$$$$. These changes are going to cost money. Had they announced that they were going to outsource the printing to China or Mexico, I would have been thrilled because the printing costs would have gone down. However, they are using a printer in Cincinnati, which probably does not come cheap. >>
I don't subscribe to CW. However, I can't fathom how anyone, except perhaps someone who is in a service industry and who has never known what it is like to produce tangible goods of value, would have been thrilled at an announcement that industrial or production jobs might move out of the country simply so that they could save what would most likely amount to less than a quarter a week on a luxury newspaper.
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<< <i>As I read about these plans, one thing came to mind-- $$$$$$$. These changes are going to cost money. Had they announced that they were going to outsource the printing to China or Mexico, I would have been thrilled because the printing costs would have gone down. However, they are using a printer in Cincinnati, which probably does not come cheap. >>
I don't subscribe to CW. However, I can't fathom how anyone, except perhaps someone who is in a service industry and who has never known what it is like to produce tangible goods of value, would have been thrilled at an announcement that industrial or production jobs might move out of the country simply so that they could save what would most likely amount to less than a quarter a week on a luxury newspaper. >>
Words printed on paper are tangible goods of value.
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
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<< <i>As I read about these plans, one thing came to mind-- $$$$$$$. These changes are going to cost money. Had they announced that they were going to outsource the printing to China or Mexico, I would have been thrilled because the printing costs would have gone down. However, they are using a printer in Cincinnati, which probably does not come cheap. >>
I don't subscribe to CW. However, I can't fathom how anyone, except perhaps someone who is in a service industry and who has never known what it is like to produce tangible goods of value, would have been thrilled at an announcement that industrial or production jobs might move out of the country simply so that they could save what would most likely amount to less than a quarter a week on a luxury newspaper. >>
Words printed on paper are tangible goods of value. >>
I didn't write that they weren't tangible goods of value. However, if that is how you read my response then I suggest that you read it again until you understand it.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
I remember my first subscription to Coin World was $6.00 a year, a very long time ago of course.
no money to speak of but I had an interest in coins.
<< <i>........ Maybe if they want to make a change, someone should instruct the editor to write an editorial that has a shred of relevance, instead of the waste of ink that normally occurs in the editoral box each week.
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They should hire an editor that knows something about coins.