While I support the new eBay coin procedures, there is one aspect that irritates me.

Russ · September 15, 2007 3:58AM

The requirement for an image of the reverse of the entire slab. Right now I'm going through and imaging the reverses for next week's auctions, and the extra work is a bit annoying. I can't see the point. An obverse slab image is adequate proof that the coin is in an approved TPG holder. Anybody see the reasoning behind this?

Russ, NCNE

Bochiman · September 15, 2007 3:59AM

Yeah, people who know nothing about coins making rules on what to do.
It's a stupid rule to have to do an entire pic of the slab's reverse.

Zoins · September 15, 2007 4:00AM

I think we might have PCGS to thank for that because of the SHQ and Prexy Bux inserts.

RYK · September 15, 2007 4:01AM

<< The requirement for an image of the reverse of the entire slab. Right now I'm going through and imaging the reverses for next week's auctions, and the extra work is a bit annoying. I can't see the point. An obverse slab image is adequate proof that the coin is in an approved TPG holder. Anybody see the reasoning behind this?

Russ, NCNE >>

Other than busting your cajones, I cannot see any reason for doing so. Perhaps it is enough additional incremental busy work for a photoshopping scam artist to throw in the towel?

coinsomniac · September 15, 2007 4:06AM

As they say, the Devil is in the details. I believe that as Ebay reviews this new edict, the reverse slab requirement will fall.

Swampboy · September 15, 2007 4:06AM

Pain in the A$$ for sure for folks with any volume of auctions.

It will add another dimension to browsing the bay if die rotation is your thing.

Zoins · September 15, 2007 4:08AM

<< I believe that as Ebay reviews this new edict, the reverse slab requirement will fall. >>

Except for PCGS SHQs and Prexy Bux where the grade and cert number are on the reverse. If eBay was going to drop a side, they would have to say something like show the side with the grade instead of the obverse slab.

TwoSides2aCoin · September 15, 2007 4:18AM

Less is better for me

Hurry... times running out to get this one shut down

. He's a powerscrewer !

coinsomniac · September 15, 2007 4:21AM

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<< I believe that as Ebay reviews this new edict, the reverse slab requirement will fall. >>

Except for PCGS SHQs and Prexy Bux where the grade and cert number are on the reverse. If eBay was going to drop a side, they would have to say something like show the side with the grade instead of the obverse slab. >>

Problem will be with the new Anancs slabs. Tough to scan them from the top to show the reg number.

TwoSides2aCoin · September 15, 2007 4:24AM

Maybe I can show them my credit card charges to PCGS on the auction. And perhaps a DNA sample ?

RotatedRainbows · September 15, 2007 4:26AM

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JimC · September 15, 2007 4:26AM

I appreciate this requirement, Think of how many beautiful frosted obverse coins that are in TPG holders that have a reverse that has little to no DCAM. Yes I do mean the NGC, ICG, and ANACS - have not seen any PCGS but there may be an exception to this. The requirement would allow individuals to see the coin and not just the label that says it is a DCAM coin. When DCAM coins obtain high bids for them to only be received and you find the coins reverse that is not a DCAM and sometimes would not be a CAM

TwoSides2aCoin · September 15, 2007 4:27AM

buy the coin, kids

Russ · September 15, 2007 4:29AM

<< I appreciate this requirement, Think of how many beautiful frosted obverse coins that are in TPG holders that have a reverse that has little to no DCAM. >>

Since I already provide large images of both the obverse and reverse of every coin as well as an image of the obverse of the entire slab, the new requirement is nothing but unnecessary work.

Russ, NCNE

coinsomniac · September 15, 2007 4:33AM

I wonder if the overanxious Trust and safety guys will start pulling existing listings. They are not supposed to (I don't think), but they get a little out of control from time to time. I will also have to be careful with my relists.

AUandAG · September 15, 2007 4:36AM

I'm 100% for it. Yep, a coin has at least two sides and the view of each is imperative to me when buying a coin.
Now, with edge lettering, I'd say we need three or more pics. Just my opinion, good job Ebay!
bob

Russ · September 15, 2007 4:43AM

<< I'm 100% for it. Yep, a coin has at least two sides and the view of each is imperative to me when buying a coin.
Now, with edge lettering, I'd say we need three or more pics. Just my opinion, good job Ebay! >>

In many cases, the net impact of this requirement will be worse images of the coin. Which would you rather see? Nice big clear images of the coin itself or images of slabs that would force the image of the coin to a smaller size? Not every seller has the luxury of their own image hosting, so we're going to end up with a lot of 400 pixel slab images hosted with eBay, and the coin itself will be about 150 pixels.

The requirement for the obverse slab image makes sense. The reverse does not.

Russ, NCNE

OKbustchaser · September 15, 2007 4:50AM

<< The requirement for the obverse slab image makes sense. The reverse does not. >>

How does the requirement for the obverse slab make any more sense then requiring the reverse. Neither is of any help whatsoever to me as a buyer that I can see. I already know what a NGC slab looks like. I don't care if it is in an old PCGS rattler. Just show me good clear pics of the coin itself.

Russ · September 15, 2007 4:52AM

<< << The requirement for the obverse slab image makes sense. The reverse does not. >>

How does the requirement for the obverse slab make any more sense then requiring the reverse. Neither is of any help whatsoever to me as a buyer that I can see. I already know what a NGC slab looks like. I don't care if it is in an old PCGS rattler. Just show me good clear pics of the coin itself. >>

The obverse slab image makes sense within the context of the new rules because it proves that the coin is holdered by an approved TPG. The reverse slab image does nothing.

Russ, NCNE

MacCrimmon · September 15, 2007 4:56AM

<< 

<< I'm 100% for it. Yep, a coin has at least two sides and the view of each is imperative to me when buying a coin.
Now, with edge lettering, I'd say we need three or more pics. Just my opinion, good job Ebay! >>

In many cases, the net impact of this requirement will be worse images of the coin. Which would you rather see? Nice big clear images of the coin itself or images of slabs that would force the image of the coin to a smaller size? Not every seller has the luxury of their own image hosting, so we're going to end up with a lot of 400 pixel slab images hosted with eBay, and the coin itself will be about 150 pixels.

The requirement for the obverse slab image makes sense. The reverse does not.

Russ, NCNE >>

The Ferengi has spoken.

I guess I need to go "read" the new rules, but aside from the rev. slab requirement, I'm assuming stock images are no longer allowed.

morgansforever · September 15, 2007 5:00AM

Totally agree, an image of the face of the slab should be sufficient.

All one has to do is verify the serial number.

Maybe if Ebay receives enough complaints, they will modify this requirement?

TorinoCobra71 · September 15, 2007 5:12AM

usually a picky buyer wants to see the reverse of the coin to see that the whole coin merits the grade that is on the slab.

TorinoCobra71

Swampboy · September 15, 2007 5:19AM

<< usually a picky buyer wants to see the reverse of the coin to see that the whole coin merits the grade that is on the slab.

TorinoCobra71 >>

The issue is not a reverse photo.

Russ · September 15, 2007 5:22AM

<< usually a picky buyer wants to see the reverse of the coin to see that the whole coin merits the grade that is on the slab. >>

Since I already provide large images of both the obverse and reverse of every coin as well as an image of the obverse of the entire slab, the new requirement is nothing but unnecessary work.

Russ, NCNE

ebaytrader · September 15, 2007 5:28AM

As someone previously mentioned it's being done because of people making rules about things they're not well versed in. It's kinda like government bureaucrats. On the other hand, the counterfeit NGC and ANACS slabs on Ebay were positively IDed by the images of the reverse of the slabs.

BlindedByEgo · September 15, 2007 5:33AM

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<< usually a picky buyer wants to see the reverse of the coin to see that the whole coin merits the grade that is on the slab. >>

Since I already provide large images of both the obverse and reverse of every coin as well as an image of the obverse of the entire slab, the new requirement is nothing but unnecessary work.

Russ, NCNE >>

You do; many don't. This forces sellers to provide images, however crappy, of both sides.

It is probably a combination of ignorance at where best to draw the line and a need to do so.

Plus, you know that they will be making adjustments as they go. I'm sure that your input, along with the other high volume sellers here, will not go entirely unnoticed.

While I support the new eBay coin procedures, there is one aspect that irritates me.

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