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Grade this darkly toned 1814 bust half single leaf*new pics posted*
JRocco
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Hey guys. Here is one that really grabs you-one way or the other.
This one is a dark toned 1814 O-105a single leaf R4+.
When I saw this coin I darn near fell on the floor-what a beauty----truth be told, I did fall on the floor.
Our fellow board member Edgar Souders (FEVER) writes in his Top 100 R4 and R5 RAG that most survivors of this marriage are in the AG to Fine grade.
Let me point out that the coin does appear to be crusty to the point of corrosion around the periphery though, especially on the reverse.
Opinions?
Thoughts?
Grade?
Yes this was a cherrypick.
Shoot from the hip on this one guys.
This one is a dark toned 1814 O-105a single leaf R4+.
When I saw this coin I darn near fell on the floor-what a beauty----truth be told, I did fall on the floor.
Our fellow board member Edgar Souders (FEVER) writes in his Top 100 R4 and R5 RAG that most survivors of this marriage are in the AG to Fine grade.
Let me point out that the coin does appear to be crusty to the point of corrosion around the periphery though, especially on the reverse.
Opinions?
Thoughts?
Grade?
Yes this was a cherrypick.
Shoot from the hip on this one guys.
Some coins are just plain "Interesting"
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-Paul
Menomonee Falls Wisconsin USA
<< <i>Looks XF/AU details, cleaned to death.
-Paul >>
I concur
<< <i>I grade it as "Do you want to make a quick 20%?". >>
HaHaHa...I bet you are a bust guy
And before this gets too astray- this one is not cleaned to death
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
Thanks for the replies.
I received 2 PM's from some pretty smart guys that said the coin looks buffed or polished. I have to apologize but the coin was dark and I took the first set of pics with a LOT of light on the coin. Well I dug out my old Nikon 4200 and took a couple quick pics to show a different side to this one. This shows the coin differently. The coin IS NOT polished.
Keep shooting guys
so I let it go.
I'd call it easy 35,possible 40.Love the clash on the ear.
<< <i>30%
I guess no one is going to be cherrypicking your coins anytime soon OKbustchaser.
helps understand the coin better tho.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1814-EARLY-BUST-HALF-SHARP-BU-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ260155269917QQihZ016QQcategoryZ11969QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
JRocco
Yours is pretty impressive. Aren't the 1814s known for sort of mushy obverses to begin with?
zap
102 capped bust half dollars - 100 die marriages
BHNC #198
Thanks for posting
Capped Bust Half Series
Capped Bust Half Dime Series
<< <i>Nice example, too bad about the cleaning.....
Yeah, too bad about that "cleaning." Might as well throw it in the melt bag.
keep in mind that the members here are some of the pickiest coin
collectors i have ever seen in one place.
we are spoiled with daily PQ coins of all dates and mints.
that coin was probably more expensive that any coin i have ever
bought and would probably be very lucky to even own one.
i like it a lot. i like silver that is dark like that. just my first reaction
was gee, it looks really smooth.
sign of an old cleaning or was it a long time collector rubbing his
thumb on his center piece of his collection?
i also own a problem coin and it is probably my toughest to aquire
overall. i would be disappointed if i posted it here and people did
not mention that.
I appreciate every response.
One question though.....
What cleaning????
i defer to your good judgement with the coin in hand.
do you think it has a smooth look though? it appears it was not
banged up/marked up was it?
i of course like your 2nd set of pics 100 times better then the first.
<< <i>What cleaning????
i defer to your good judgement with the coin in hand.
do you think it has a smooth look though? it appears it was not
banged up/marked up was it?
i of course like your 2nd set of pics 100 times better then the first. >>
Good questions.
This one has not been played with.
It is almost charcoal in color so I had to crank up the light to show the coins detail, hence the first set of "glossy pics"
The second set show the skin better but no detail due to higher angle lights and no depth in the pics. Combine the 2 pics-1 for detail, 1 for skin.
There are no hairlines on this coin from wiping/polishing or buffing.
Has it ever been cleaned?????- It's older than me so I dunno, but can I see any evidence of it being cleaned-no.
The edge lettering matches perfectly with this dark toning.
Look at the obverse edge at 3 o'clock. There is evidence of a possible frisky thumb or cabinet rub. That is it though.
Edited to add- I will defer to slumlord hands down, but I will like him to see this in hand and explain it to me in person...One of these days.
I would and do just show the coin how it truly looks. Hey man, give it up and get a scanner. Heh heh
The uniform glossiness on a struck silver coin is always an indicator of a polish job. Try to look beneath the color of the coin to see this effect; sometimes focusing a couple inches above or below the coin can help. The look of the coin is just too even. Swirl the coin around under a bright light and you won't see cartwheel as much as you'll see even reflectivity. Another way to learn is to take a worn pocket coin and polish the sh!t out of it using a chamois or a piece of terrycloth and some silver polish or WHY. Once you understand the look, you'll never forget it.
<< <i>Neither set of images shows anything that might cause me to change my mind about this coin being polished, neither does your use of the word "charcoal". I've seen coins that had a charcoal look to them and it was always a bad thing. I'll try to clearly explain my opinion.
The uniform glossiness on a struck silver coin is always an indicator of a polish job. Try to look beneath the color of the coin to see this effect; sometimes focusing a couple inches above or below the coin can help. The look of the coin is just too even. Swirl the coin around under a bright light and you won't see cartwheel as much as you'll see even reflectivity. Another way to learn is to take a worn pocket coin and polish the sh!t out of it using a chamois or a piece of terrycloth and some silver polish or WHY. Once you understand the look, you'll never forget it. >>
Hey slumlord.
Thanks for taking the time and effort to explain your thoughts and opinion. It is greatly appreciated.
Let me thank everyone else who took the time to tell me what they thought.
And let me just add that is one smart man that stman.
You guys are alright