Would you like to see the Trade dollars I bought at a garage sale?

coinsarefun · August 19, 2007 3:50PM

When I was in Scottsdale this past week I also dropped by a garge sale and picked them up.
The lady said that she had "no idea what they are or the value"

I said that I don't know either but would take them both for $20

Check it out

Type2 · August 19, 2007 3:52PM

Dont look right my be copys from china. but that is just me.

tightbudget · August 19, 2007 3:55PM

I don't know if you know this or not, but these are Chinese counterfeits. And if you knew that part, you overpaid for these counterfeits. You can get these counterfeits for like $2-$3 each easily.

coinsarefun · August 19, 2007 3:58PM

Yes, I was sure they are but I got a kick out of them.
I guess the heat (109 degrees)eliminated partial brain cells and all reasoning.

SilverEagles92 · August 19, 2007 3:59PM

I didn't want to be the one to tell you. They're right, fake.

coinkat · August 19, 2007 9:46PM

Unfortunately, these look fake. Consider buying a scale and take it with you on your buying trips. I bought mine for about $45 and it works well.

ProofModerns · August 19, 2007 11:56PM

Would you please explain how you know they are fake?

slipgate · August 20, 2007 12:05AM

When were trade dollar fakes made? Back when they were in circulation or are they modern fakes made for the purpose of duping collectors?

If the former, they should have some value because they were made to be circulating counterfeits and probably did circulate.

holeinone1972 · August 20, 2007 12:07AM

Well if they are fake, you will easily quadruple your money on ebay, especially if you crack them out.

LOL

Of course I neither condone or endorse such behavior.

STONE · August 20, 2007 12:13AM

Hey those are fake!!!

DJCoinz · August 20, 2007 12:19AM

<< Would you please explain how you know they are fake? >>

For one thing, the eagle's have dragon heads.

AUandAG · August 20, 2007 12:24AM

There are several places I focus on for identification:
1: the denticles; on these coins the go from long to short with the short ones about 5 o'clock on the obverse.
2: Miss Liberties nose is oriental and rounded not straight.
3: Edges, many times you can see where they were joined (each half made separately) and if visible it is
very obvious.
4: Mint marks are many times the wront font or style.
5: Eagles head is wrong (just does not look right and has that "Chinese look"
6: Wear, many times the obverse wear is worse than the reverse wear (they don't match)
7: weight, usually they are very underweight (from 17 - 22 grams). This can be the easiest to
spot. But, I do own a couple that are overweight and overlarge but feel right and are the most
deceptive to spot unless you measure the diameter!

bob

Blondie · August 20, 2007 12:24AM

Have you check to see if they have a secret compartment? If they do they are not worthless.

kiyote · August 20, 2007 12:38AM

I always wondered the same thing-- are these modern fakes, or from the 1880s?

goldboy · August 20, 2007 12:39AM

Geez, cant get anything past you guys...............................

BTW - Welcome to the boards blondie!

PerryHall · August 20, 2007 1:00AM

<< When were trade dollar fakes made? Back when they were in circulation or are they modern fakes made for the purpose of duping collectors?

If the former, they should have some value because they were made to be circulating counterfeits and probably did circulate. >>

Most these days are being mass produced in China. Tourists bring them back from China and many are bought from eBay sellers located in China.

Goldbully · August 20, 2007 1:06AM

Is this a fake???????

BBQnBLUES · August 20, 2007 1:11AM

You gotta admit, the fake Trade $ is still a nice looking "coin"

I'm building a set of em (so far I own) 1875-CC, 1876-CC, 1877-CC, 1878, 1878-CC, 1878-S..

None of these have the word "Copy" & are kinda cool.

Anyone have dates 4 sale I don't have ?
Thanks to "tightbudget" I can now say I also have a 1873-CC & a 1874-CC fake

Tonelover · August 20, 2007 1:24AM

Most of these aren't even made of silver, just cheap pot metal or something. Take a magnet to them and they will stick.

SpaceMonkey · August 20, 2007 1:26AM

<< Is this a fake???????

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duh... can't you tell? those leaves liberty is holding look nothing like the authentic one.... other than that... would be very hard to detect.

/ed

tradedollarnut · August 20, 2007 1:30AM

Is this a fake???????

Actually, no it's not a fake.

Goldbully · August 20, 2007 1:41AM

<< Is this a fake???????

Actually, no it's not a fake. >>

Got any hi res pics of her??? She's a REAL Beauty!!!

Edited to say....I thought you were referring to your LSD....that is a Real Beauty!!!

And you are correct about that potty Trade $1

tradedollarnut · August 20, 2007 1:57AM

TomB · August 20, 2007 3:03AM

These are modern counterfeits that are likely not made of silver. The Trade dollar and Seated Liberty dollar series have been heavily targeted in the last several years by folks in Asia who seem to be mass producing these and listing many on ebay. The folks you bought them from may have obtained them from ebay, too. Contemporary counterfeits have a stronger following, but modern counterfeits seem to me to be more like throwing your money away.

GFourDriver · August 20, 2007 4:15AM

Just when you think you have earned the coveted YOU SUCK award, it turns around and the yard sale earns it.

Goldbully · August 20, 2007 8:29AM

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Awesome proof.......what variety is J-84 Res??

PCGS Link

DBSTrader2 · August 20, 2007 9:37AM

If anyone has REAL versions of the 2 coins in question, or can post pics of them, it would certainly be educational for someone like me to see the differences as explained by Bob (AUandAG)!

Thanks in advance!

- - Dave

greghansen · August 20, 2007 10:12AM

Looks like the lady at the garage sale made out like a bandit.

TrustNo1 · August 20, 2007 10:13AM

they probably have lead paint in them as well. Dump them on ebay.

orie · August 20, 2007 10:28AM

One more time.....The calf got the butcher!!!

21Walker · August 20, 2007 11:12AM

I'm heading to Thailand Friday. This is where I bought (knowingly) my first trade dollar. They are pretty prevalant at the night markets. If anyone wants one, pm me and I will pick some up. Last time in Thailand, they were a couple bucks a piece.............Rick

Monstavet · August 20, 2007 11:21AM

did you think these were real when you bought them? were you hoping for a 'u suck' on Monday morning? Just curious. I mean why knowingly overpay for two fakes? If you didn't know, it is fine, it only cost you $20 - not a big mistake even for modest collectors.

coinsarefun · August 20, 2007 11:34AM

<< did you think these were real when you bought them? were you hoping for a 'u suck' on Monday morning? Just curious. I mean why knowingly overpay for two fakes? If you didn't know, it is fine, it only cost you $20 - not a big mistake even for modest collectors. >>

I went to my mothers church members' home for the garage
sale (it was for charity) I didn't want to say that she knew they were not real soooo I thought for $20 it goes to a good thing and I get my first fake dollars'

I do not collect trade dollars. After looking at them I saw it was not real. I am used to looking for fake Morgans and these were the worst.

I thought that I would post this so other members might learn.

Monstavet · August 20, 2007 4:54PM

no worries mate. $20 is an inexpensive lesson and this thread generated some good points for folks to look at when evaluating these coins. Mission accomplished.

tradedollarnut · August 21, 2007 5:42AM

<< If anyone has REAL versions of the 2 coins in question, or can post pics of them, it would certainly be educational for someone like me to see the differences as explained by Bob (AUandAG)!

Thanks in advance!

- - Dave

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Would you like to see the Trade dollars I bought at a garage sale?

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