MtG - #1 beta & arabian set... Value???
Spacebaby
Posts: 110
Well hello everyone. I've been absent for while from psa and ebay. I've been involved in a real estate project and it has been eating up all my time and money. Additionally, as most have seen on the news, there is a huge liquidity crisis in the credit industry, specifically mortgage lending. Since my livelyhood is tied to this, I have seen my income decrease over the last 6 months. I am still moving forward with my construction project. However, i have decided to raise the capital by selling off my mtg assets rather than borrow on my credit lines at this time. Therefore, here is my question:
What do you guys think my #1 arabians set is worth? What is my beta set worth?
I am liquidating the betas and will consider the betas (I truely do want to keep this one, but I want some feedback about its value). So the second question is:
If I want to sell the arabians or beta set, should I break them up or sell them as an entire set?
On the betas, I think it would be very difficult to find someone with the cash and desire to buy it as a whole.
Please let me know what you thinks?
What do you guys think my #1 arabians set is worth? What is my beta set worth?
I am liquidating the betas and will consider the betas (I truely do want to keep this one, but I want some feedback about its value). So the second question is:
If I want to sell the arabians or beta set, should I break them up or sell them as an entire set?
On the betas, I think it would be very difficult to find someone with the cash and desire to buy it as a whole.
Please let me know what you thinks?
Steven Karpman
"spacebaby" on ebay
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well first of all, thats terrible man. I Have also lost a pretty nice chunk of money from the turbulance lately but mine is mostly due to the stock market volatility. Here in Florida there are huge Condos being built that have literally stopped construction half way and other apartment complexes which were being converted are now vacant. Its definitly a rough time for a LOT of people. I wish you luck man.
Anyways as for your set values...i would think if you can find a buyer with enough $$$ i think you would make more selling by the set. BUT since things are tough right now...you might be better off selling individually with reserves or if you need money fast list a few every week. I think you would need to manuelly add up the value of each card in PSA 10 form to get a good accurate price for this kind of item. But no matter what you try, goodluck Steven
-Rudy
Alpha_Investments
Currently 95 Alpha 10's so far...
8 x Alpha PSA 10 Hypnotic Spector
3 x Alpha PSA 10 Icy Manipulator
2 x Alpha PSA 10 Demonic Tutor
1 x Alpha PSA 10 TimeWalk
0 x Alpha PSA 10 Black Lotus
I did a quick random calculation on your beta set, and came up with a lower price of about $60,000. I don't know how that compares with what you've spend it on, depending on how much you graded yourself you might have spent less than that on it. I reckon you're probably the best qualified person to put a price on it though - my estimate doesn't take into account all the time you've invested in it.
My quick assumptions
Lotus - $6k
Other P9 - $2k each
TOTAL = $24k
Rares = $200 * 100
Uncommons = $100 * 100
Commons = $50 * 100
= $59,000 total.
You might have a better idea of assumptions to make and can tweak this to come up with a better assesment.
I'd love to buy it, but sadly I don't have that sort of money to spare right now.
I'd probably be interested in the Arabian set though, but am interested to see what other people think the value is before I put forward my ideas. :-)
Lousy 100th post - never good news to hear a dedicated collector is selling for hardship reasons. Maybe it is the #1 spot, as Nick (previous #1) finally liquidated his collection for financial reasons too
Wow, value?? That is a real tough question to answer. I do agree that it most likely is worth a premium as a set, but I doubt there is anyone out there who could afford to buy it outright. The Arabian set is a little smaller and has more people after it so you might be able to liquidate it as a set. I know I would love to own either, but I'm still trying to work off my debt hangover from what I already bought (part of why I stopped buying - LOL). With PSA 10's like you have the value really is whatever you can get someone to pay. I know that's not really an answer, but the market for these cards is so thin (and so thinly capitalized) that values fluctuate wildly. Your best bet is simply to get the word out and see what kind of offers you get.
Please don't take this the wrong way, as I don't know you really well and I am not in your current situation, but I personally feel you will regret the decision to sell down the road. That being said, I understand there are priorities in life and we all do what we must. I wish you the best in whatever you decide to do and hope if you do sell the new owner will appreciate how much love and effort you put into these sets .
Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes,
Hypnotized by you if I should linger,
Staring at the ring around your finger" - Sting
Ray Thiel (1964-2007) - the man who showed me more wonderful games & gaming sessions than I ever dreamed possible... you ran out of hit points too young, my friend.
I think it depend on the time you have to sell the sets. If you need to sell those set in the next month then it s better to sell them on ebay listing each card. If you have more time (3 month) try to sell those sets at once.
I think if you want sell Beta in the next 3 month try sell it :
Lotus - $8k
Other P9 - $1.5k each
TOTAL = $20k
Rares = $200 * 100
Uncommons = $50 * 100
Commons = $30 * 100
= $48,000 total.
So i think put it 44 995 USD starting bid.
If i had the money i would buy it arround that price . If you sell it on ebay card by card i think you will get less.
Of course if you have more time (more than 3 month) sell it full price 59 995 USD with BIN.
For the arabian you should put it on ebay starting bid 5000 USD for 10 days.
Those sets are so nice they would have more value to sell them in one piece.
card by card i think you get less because some will sell high but most sell lot lower. Or you need to try sell card by card with fixed price. But then the risk is to sell some cards and keep lot cards.
Problem is that maby 50-70 % will stay in your hands.
If you need all the money then maby try to sell with BIN first and them sell the 50-70 % with no reserve but them maby you will loose more.
IMO the best is to try to sell the sets as whole set first . And see (if you need all the money). If you need 30 % of the money then for sure it s better to sell cards with bin price.
Honnestly if someone have the money (45000) USD and like nice cards i think your beta set is sold ...
I have an other idea ... Put the beta set with BIN 79 995 USD on ebay and put a best offer ... Maby someone will offer you 60000 for it.
You should try first week high BIN then next week 59995 USD BIN with out best offer.
Then third week starting bid 44 995 USD with no reserve.
I think you should keep the arabian ... If you need 40-80 k, 5-6 k more or less wont change the world ... Now if you need more 5-10 k then keep beta and sell arabian + other cards you have.
I am sure shop would love to have your collection of beta. Shoping in a shop that have the #1 best beta set is nice
It can be considered as an investment in advertising for the shop ... I don t know how D&A buy cards but maby they would be interessed ... The best mtg player set ever made...
Well i run out of idea... I hope it will help you.
I am sure you won t go out of mtg collecting for long anyway ... You realy love MTG cards. It s just a stop at some point but it s sad to see many poeple sold there collection ...
My financial issue is whether I want to borrow money to continue with this project. I don't have the cash just sitting around. Because of the turbulence in the lending industry, I am very hesitant to borrow more money for real estate. Therefore, when considering my options, I think it is best to liquidate one asset ( mtg collection) to invest in another asset. Especially when the other asset has such a high return on investment.
I will be selling off my AN set and Unlimited set. In the best case, I would not sell the Betas. Yet, I do want to get peoples opinion on its value and strategies to realize it value should I decide to sell it. Personally, I have set a minimum value at $40,000. I think I could come close to this if I started selling it individually, however, this would take a considerable amount of effort. In a perfect world, I'd be able to move it as a complete set for $50,000+. Yet, I don't know that there are many people who have the resources and desire to buy it as a complete set. So, I am floating htis post to let people know its available.
I think I will post the AN as a complete set and then piece it out if it does not sell. What do you guys thinks the values of the cards in that set would be if I sold it individually? What about UL psa 10 moxs?
Anyway, look for me to begin listing the UL and AN set in the next couple of weeks.
Thanks for the input.
Steven
"spacebaby" on ebay
I think Michael is looking for arabian set
I have one very nice and with most the cards (and all the best cards)
So i don t think i would buy it ... but if i didn t have my set i would definitly think of it (depending on the price
I am interested in the Arabian Nights set - I sent you an e-mail!
I sat down and went through your Arabian set. I know I tend to be lower than others when it comes to values, but I had a quick breakup value of about $4k on it. If sold intact you add a set premium plus low pop premium of
And not $.01 lower
Take it easy,
Jared
Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes,
Hypnotized by you if I should linger,
Staring at the ring around your finger" - Sting
Ray Thiel (1964-2007) - the man who showed me more wonderful games & gaming sessions than I ever dreamed possible... you ran out of hit points too young, my friend.
The market has changed quite a bit for beta's compared to alpha's. I would value your set to be 35k - 45k in today's market.
If you want to sell me your BOP and ORB I will pay you top prices.
Personally, liquidating individually, may prove to bring stronger numbers as, very few collectors can afford a full set all at once. You will see a higher price point per card - commons, uncommons and rares, by selling individually.
Good Luck,
Dan
"spacebaby" on ebay
Sorry to see the heat you're taking elsewhere. Coolio's a BGS tool, they have him mopping the floors and whatnot...
Crashtest,
There's a book you ought to read called "Lord of the Flies", it's about you and your pals... You're one of the Flies
My 1st post! Only took 2 1/2 years to get around to it!
Oh well, not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, really - I guess I'll just have to watch what I say a little more closely.
Take it easy,
Jared
Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes,
Hypnotized by you if I should linger,
Staring at the ring around your finger" - Sting
Ray Thiel (1964-2007) - the man who showed me more wonderful games & gaming sessions than I ever dreamed possible... you ran out of hit points too young, my friend.
I'll try to explain what I'm "implying".... I'm sure you wont "get it" though.
Spacebaby, a guy who has spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on his collection is a member of PSA. He started this thread on the PSA board. The median age of this board is likely 35-50 years old... Probably near the high #. Most of us also spend thousands of dollars on our various card collections and a likewise amount grading. It's something we enjoy doing.
CrashTest reads this thread and then decides it's a good idea to seek financial advice/counsel on another board. This "other" board has the median age of 8-14 years old... Probably near the low #
A lot of PSA bashing occurs on that "other" board. 1000's of confirmed thieves, daily "bad trader" updates, and the like.
One of the ringleaders always bashes PSA because he's "suppoesedly" affiliated with another company. Anyone mentions anything "PSA graded" and he steps in to make a fool of whoever's defending PSA. In this case that would be Thulnanth. It happened in my case as well (in the past) and many other cases... Then the ringleader bashes Spacebaby (who never posted anything) to top it all off.
Crashtest, I'm implying that you're a Fool for 1) seeking $$$ advice from kids who likely can't count to the number you asked about. 2) aren't mature enough to intervene (on your own thread) in behalf of the above members here. 3) actually needing to know what I was "implying". 4) actually "emailing" Spacebaby an offer when his good name was being flamed ON YOUR THREAD!
Regards,
Tharizdun
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That is part of the problem with PSA grading - it is a niche market. The normal magic player will probably be shocked at the premium some people pay. Is it worth it? I'm not sure - when it comes time to sell, there can be obstacles to getting the full perceived value.
"members who lack knowledge" is a serious understatement. They're very insulting. To the point where I decide to post something here for the 1st time since I was registered for 2 1/2+ years.
I decided to "speak up" because Spacebaby seemed like a very helpful and friendly person towards me a couple years ago when I started collecting Mint A/B cards. You haven't done him any favors by your actions/inaction.
"That is part of the problem with PSA grading - it is a niche market. The normal magic player will probably be shocked at the premium some people pay. Is it worth it? I'm not sure - when it comes time to sell, there can be obstacles to getting the full perceived value."
This is redundant information... Were all PSA collectors and this a PSA thread. This is a good place to post a PSA graded sale. No? Spacebaby stayed away from biased places where "members who lack knowledge" congregate for good reason
Ok, truly sorry for all of this. Tharizdun creeps back into the shadows till 2009.
Jared, thanks for sending me the link to that other board to get me up to speed...I think...to see what people were talking about here. As one the nicest people a person is going to meet in the world of collecting, you sure don't deserve that kind of treatment. You can't take things personally when dealing with unreasonable people (at any age). It isn't worth the time.
Definately at least two, and probably three, groups of people at play here. MTG players, MTG collectors, and PSA collectors a small subset of collectors.
<< <i>Ok, truly sorry for all of this. Tharizdun creeps back into the shadows till 2009. >>
Don't creep back!!! This place needs another voice. I can't seem to find the post CrashTest made, but I can infer from the previous dialogue what transpired. If I can find it, I'm sure I'll add my two cents in defense of Spacebaby, who happens to be one of my all-time heroes.
Anyway, welcome Tharizdun.
Sorry to see the heat you're taking elsewhere. Coolio's a BGS tool, they have him mopping the floors and whatnot...
Crashtest,
There's a book you ought to read called "Lord of the Flies", it's about you and your pals... You're one of the Flies Maybe Spacebaby will take you up on your offer after he pulls the knife out of his back. Maybe not.
My 1st post! Only took 2 1/2 years to get around to it!"
Hello,
Since this post (up here) i was thinking something is going wrong but as my english is bad i was blaming it
Can anyone tell me where is this other tread ? What is going on ?
Thanks,
Bastien
Tony, you are forgetting the 4th group of people over at the other board, the 30 year old living with the parents wanna be dealer. These are the truly ignorant people over at the other board and the ones that feel they should get "deals" on everything and that the mythical MOTL price guide is the end all. Though I have good working relationships with a couple of moderators, most of the rabble on the other forum are not worth the time to have a conversation with, much less try to trade.
Thankfully this board exists where you can bring forth a subject and expect to receive "mostly" educated opinions about true collectibles, not just someones attempt to screw you over on the "hot T2 card of the week".
As to the user "Coolio" you'll have to accept the fact that he is nothing but the F*ing idiot that he shows himself to be.
Finally Steven, you should indeed sell the Orb and Birds to the
Jake
http://www.starcitygames.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=303427
But i don t see any coolio in it
Is it the thread that make you guys all upset ?
MOTL thread
First off, I want to say thank you to everyone for the support and kind words - I've always enjoyed chatting with all of you and I'm glad you've felt likewise. I really value the community we've got here and feel it adds immensely to the enjoyment of my MtG hobby, and hopefully all of yours.
As for what was said "over there", I wouldn't let it get you too bent out of shape. I have known for some time that the MtG community at large has a low opinion of graded cards and even a little hostility (well, mabye more than a little - LOL). While some of the posters on the other sites are indeed "immature", I have found many of them to be informed and thoughtful enthusiasts of the game I too love. Many of the other boards also offer info that you just can't get here. That being said, when I see someone posting on a board that might not be best, I try to steer them to a more helpful one. I have referred people here to MOTL, Magicrarities, StarCityGames, etc, and have done likewise on those boards. In fact, that's what lead to this mess.
I guess that brings me to my final thought. I don't know Crashtest real well, but I have followed him through the forums and spoken with him privately, and he seems like a nice guy. I do believe it was just an "honest mistake" as he said - I don't believe he was trying to hurt anyone. I told him about these boards a while back because he seemed to have a genuine interest in graded cards. While I can't be sure, my gut tells me his only crime in all this is perhaps poor judgement. For future reference, I would steer clear of trying to promote graded cards on MOTL or anywhere else. If someone seems to show an interest I try to answer their questions honestly, and if they still seem like they want to know more I send them here.
Whew, I am glad to see all this forum activity, I just wish it was under better circumstances
Take it easy,
Jared
Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes,
Hypnotized by you if I should linger,
Staring at the ring around your finger" - Sting
Ray Thiel (1964-2007) - the man who showed me more wonderful games & gaming sessions than I ever dreamed possible... you ran out of hit points too young, my friend.
BTW - is your username any reference to "The Forgotten Temple of Tharizdun" by chance? I love that Gygax module (still have my copy).
Take it easy,
Jared
Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes,
Hypnotized by you if I should linger,
Staring at the ring around your finger" - Sting
Ray Thiel (1964-2007) - the man who showed me more wonderful games & gaming sessions than I ever dreamed possible... you ran out of hit points too young, my friend.
(1) Something is worth whatever people will pay for it. If I can find 1 person who will pay $10,000 for my old piece of chewing gum, I'm pretty sure it's worth $10,000. :-)
(2) Just because 10 million people think it's worth $1 doesn't mean it's worth $1 either - just look at the stock markets over the last few days - clearly no one knows what anything is worth one way or the other, so at the end of the day what something is worth ends up being a bit of a philosophical debate. Hence see (1) :-)
(3) Some people are a bit oversensitive to criticism and think because they're on the internet its OK to be rude/unpleasant to others.
Rightly or wronly, I think this forum is the best source of magic related PSA knowledge on the internet, regardless of what people on other boards think. Other boards a undoutably a good or better source for non-PSA information, I would also refer people to other boards for information about specific cards / rare items.
Thulnath, I would echo other people's comments - I think what you said was pretty fair, but just hit a raw nerve and the other people over-reacted. I wouldn't worry about it - life is too short. :-)
Take it easy,
Jared
Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes,
Hypnotized by you if I should linger,
Staring at the ring around your finger" - Sting
Ray Thiel (1964-2007) - the man who showed me more wonderful games & gaming sessions than I ever dreamed possible... you ran out of hit points too young, my friend.
On the PSA cards i think the right price is when you have the cards in the hand and you feel you would not trade it back for your money.
It s good to see what poeple think but at the end you need to think for yourself.
When i first came in the PSA graded cards i was thinking price was over evaluated and i told that to Steven. Once i bought him 2-3 PSA 9 graded cards i was thinking it was a good deal ... And it s after i sent my "gemed" mint cards to PSA that i thought that PSA 10 was cheap ...
I would like to see Coolio s price if he had a nice graded set ... It s easy to say PSA 10 cards worth nothing when you never tryed to get one ... It s after you open a couple of pack and send the best mint cards to PSA that you think it s all but easy to get this kind of cards.
By the way Michael, as we are old friend, can i have a discount on your old piece of chewing gum ?
1) Jared, thanks for posting the other thread. It was quite interesting to read. It's funny they would have such a strong opinion about such a benign question. To be polite, I think "FOOLIO" has an enthusiastic opinion of his knowledge and worth. I'd bet he has very misguided beliefs as to what is really important in life. Isn't it allways the littlest dogs that bark the most and are most annoying. Meanwhile the big dog just walk on by and the little runt can't help from getting out of the way. His attitude shows he will never succeed in life until he learns to deal with his jealousy and envy.
2) Crashtest, welcome. Your inquiry was welcome. My post was to get some feedback as to the value of some high end cards. These are the people who have the body of knowledge most capable of giving sage councel. What many of these so called "player" fail to realize is that most of the truely high priced cards never hit ebay or any trading forums. The cards that hit ebay are usually the less desirable ones. The desirable one I obtain usually go to people who I have sold to before and have a trusting relationship with. I have supplied cards to most of those registering mtg sets. So FOOLIO's comments matter not.
Also, when as to whether I can realize lets call it "fair value" when I go to sell? Absolutely! First, My arabian set has been locked away for almost two years now. I haven't looked or touched a card in that collection for years. There are many types of income; among them are financial and psychological. I have already gained immense psychological income (i.e. enjoyment) putting the set together. Afterall, I got to buy the sets in their raw forms, send them off for grading, anticipate their return, and rejoice at their grades. For me that's the really fun part. Financially I gonna be just fine because I have made a good profit from the other graded arabians that I sold. Hving graded 4 AN sets, believe me when I tell you that I am ahead. So whatever price I get, I'll have taken profit off the table AND had a great time doing it.
3) Tharizdun, also, welcome. I appreciate your defense and found your comments to be somewhat heated. My first reaction to reading the MOTL thread was to fire off a condescending post of my own. However, I realized that I just don't care what they think. I have what they will never have. I got a good laugh from the guy wh lamented having never won a psa card. Oh how he would love to crack a slabbed card. Hilarious. So please post some more. This group ain't so small minded, really.
4) I'd like to comment about the trading differential between players, collectors and psa collectors. I loved it when FOOLIO pretended to have taken a basic Micro class when he stated
" if you took any course on economics, you cant command a price, if there's no demand."
That one sentence shows he know nothing about economics. He claims this to be from the player perspective. If you asked him to define the elasticity of demand he'd answer that it was the tension on his tidey whiteys as he thought about his upcoming trade victim. He's used to an enviornment where the supply is excessive and demand is extremely elastic. Competition is robust and loss leader marketing strategies gain market share and acceptance.
Now we look at someone like Crashtest, i.e. the collector. He realizes that just because they say its mint doen't mean its mint. Most collectors realize you get what you paid for. Price is not the only part of the marketing mix. Other factors become just as important; trust in the integrity of the products representation, previous transaction history, and reputation of the seller are a few. I think most of us here prefer to buy cards from people we have dealt with before even if it will cost a little more. The reason that we do this is to isnure against the dowside exposure and avoid perceived risks. Therefore, the demand for items for the collector starts to become less elastic. For example, we've all seen the lotus listed by the zero feedback guy versus the seller with a substantial feedback rating. Compare the selling price and you see this in action.
Finally, if we take this one step further to the so called "niche" market of PSA collectors, we see that demand for the best cards become very inelastic. That is why the price premium is so high. Additionally, the supply is extremely limited when compared to the first group. That's why some psa 10 cards in many sets command such high price multiples. It is my feeling that the only worthy sets ended at Legends. If more people feel this way then the number of PSA collectors will grow. Will the average Mtg player get this? Only when he grows up.
I have a partial arabians set due back from psa, when those cards list we'll see some more data. Since there has been no supply on ebay of graded AN recently, I am curious to see how the bidding goes. If there is truely NO demand then they should fail. If there is demand and no supply then I'll get my target prices. It should prove to be fun anyway....
WHEW that was a mouthful.
"spacebaby" on ebay
"spacebaby" on ebay
Great post. I think your first point about sums it all up for me. Your 2nd and 4th points together are very close to what my initial response was going to be over on the other board, until I realized that I'd just be wasting my breath - anything I said wasn't going to lead to open and thoughtful discussion, but rather just add fuel to the fire. Best to just smile and move along.
I have a wonderful wife, 2 beautiful daughters, a nice house, a great job and a nice nest egg. I live in a great city/country, belong to a vibrant Church which also supports a great school for my kids, and I can't remember ever wanting for any basic need. On top of all that, I have the luxury of sitting here online discussing a hobby I love with like-minded, intelligent and engaging folks. I can honestly say I really have nothing to be upset about.
Oh yeah, as for my Gem 10 Alphas and Betas - icing on the cake
Take it easy,
Jared
Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes,
Hypnotized by you if I should linger,
Staring at the ring around your finger" - Sting
Ray Thiel (1964-2007) - the man who showed me more wonderful games & gaming sessions than I ever dreamed possible... you ran out of hit points too young, my friend.
PSA 10 Bazaar?? Good card with a pretty stong demand. Raw ones go for $150+, nice ones over $200. I would value a 10 at least at $400, with a high end of $500. Certainly wouldn't take less than $350 even if desperate, as the card has quite a bit of upside.
Of course, I might be wrong - just check MOTL
Take it easy,
Jared
Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes,
Hypnotized by you if I should linger,
Staring at the ring around your finger" - Sting
Ray Thiel (1964-2007) - the man who showed me more wonderful games & gaming sessions than I ever dreamed possible... you ran out of hit points too young, my friend.
You guys are all correct about Cornholio except: His opinions (lame as each one is) go completely uncontested on that site. There's simply no debating the matter. Lots of people (mostly impressionable kids) visit that site every day. When they aren't getting ripped off they're most likely reading the words of Cornholio and eating all that stuff up cause they really don't know any better. It's not a good situation...
Thulnanth: Yeah, Temple of Tharizdun. Thats' my main hobby other than mtg. Actually, artwork has become my main hobby. I accumulate a bunch of raw A/B/U stuff and then sell it and buy a painting. That's been the trend. Just did it again in fact
Spacebaby: Good luck with your sales! I might bid on that Bazaar of Baghdad.... completely agree with you on the old stuff. Dark is a fun set but people were hoarding by then. Legends is the last "Golden" era set, most everyone would agree. I think were still in whatever age follows that though. MTG shows no signs of slowing down! This hobby is actually very young still. It's a good idea to hang on to those cards if you can....
Later
I have a few original paintings of MtG cards, but no other original art. I used to love looking at all the pieces in the art show at GenCon - wish I had bought a few back then (sigh).
I love Sting both solo and with The Police, but you are right; Andy and Stewart are both immensely talented musicians in their own right and don't get the credit they deserve. While I simply can't justify the price of concert tickets today, I had to make an exception when The Police came to town. I must say while it wasn't the same as seeing them back in the day, it still was an incredible experience and I have absolutely no regrets about going!!!
Now if only David Gilmore and Roger Waters could bury the hatchet
Take it easy,
Jared
Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes,
Hypnotized by you if I should linger,
Staring at the ring around your finger" - Sting
Ray Thiel (1964-2007) - the man who showed me more wonderful games & gaming sessions than I ever dreamed possible... you ran out of hit points too young, my friend.
By the way, anyone here ever played in the SCA?
It's late and I have become comfortably numb.
"spacebaby" on ebay
<< <i>It's late and I have become comfortably numb. >>
Shine on, you crazy diamond...
Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes,
Hypnotized by you if I should linger,
Staring at the ring around your finger" - Sting
Ray Thiel (1964-2007) - the man who showed me more wonderful games & gaming sessions than I ever dreamed possible... you ran out of hit points too young, my friend.
It came out 3 years after MTG arround ... Cards were very nice. I bought lot of the first edition of this game but we played it just one month and it died fast ... I still have ton of those cards
I played Rage briefly... along with Jyhad and erm, the first Star Trek CCG. I'm pretty sure I still have those cards in a drawer somewhere - I never really got into them.
I hate the paint was dry to fast in the pot ... If you start painting you need paint no stop 6 month stop and you can buy new pot
I got my first MTG cards for free when I was in the Army in 96 or so. Then, by chance, I was around some soldiers who liked to play and one of them had bought cases of Unlimited cards at his local comic shop. He wasn't "into" the game anymore so I bought all his cards for the actual value
After I got out I came home to SoCal and started getting A/B stuff. There's some kind of "myth" about how all that stuff migrated to Japan and then that "myth" changed to everything going to Europe. There's plenty of raw stuff here though whenever I look around. Like someone said before, it was geared towards D&D players at first. At least from game stores perspectives because TSR was the major gaming company. Most of those original players I know still have the old cards. There's plenty of raw still around here because it got released here (I think). It's a mixed bag though because so much of it was played with and then all the people who put cards in binders wrong and you get about 1/3rd+ cards having binder ring indentations in the otherwise mint cards
You guys must check this out - I laughed my
Take it easy,
Jared
Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes,
Hypnotized by you if I should linger,
Staring at the ring around your finger" - Sting
Ray Thiel (1964-2007) - the man who showed me more wonderful games & gaming sessions than I ever dreamed possible... you ran out of hit points too young, my friend.
"spacebaby" on ebay
Alot of unlimiteds are going up on ebay, I've just listed my extras. My set will be listed next week and the following week.
If you have a reserved a card and see a copy listed, don't worry it an extra one that is listed.
I've got a 1/2 arabian set coming back from psa in the next 2-4 weeks. I'll be listing those then, and maybe my Arabians set if I decide to part it out.
thanks!
"spacebaby" on ebay
Yeah, I loved the whole RPG scene (D&D, GammaWorld, Star Frontiers, West End's Star Wars, Vampire, Champions). I also loved Battletech (and later WizKids' Mechwarrior). Went through all the CCG's too(MtG, Jyhad, Star Wars, Star Trek, Rage, Illuminati, X-Files, Highlander, Echelons of Fury). Lots of gaming back in the day.
...when I was young, single, and had wads of cash to blow!!!
Take it easy,
Jared
Caught between the Scylla and Charibdes,
Hypnotized by you if I should linger,
Staring at the ring around your finger" - Sting
Ray Thiel (1964-2007) - the man who showed me more wonderful games & gaming sessions than I ever dreamed possible... you ran out of hit points too young, my friend.
"spacebaby" on ebay
Sorry Michael, but I just had to hook Bastien up. He was gone for quite a while, so I had to help him get closer to finishing his set. Congrats, Bastien.
Does anyone else wnat or need psa 9 commons and uncommons for $4-5??...I'm just tryin to get some of my grading cost back.
"spacebaby" on ebay
I need a few more to complet the set.
I will try to make a set at W GPA 9.75 with no PSA 8 in it.
I don t think i will ever make it W GPA 10 like Michael... It s too long ...
Michael is going to pass me again in one year from now
I will try to make my alpha W GPA 8-9.
And look what i found yesterday :
Item number: 120154154863
This is well worth a nice Lotus isn t it ?