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Counterfeit 1889-CC on eBay

Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭
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I've emailed the seller, but he insists it's real

Counterfeit
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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Wow. Is it just me or does that POS have the "look" of being a 1921?
    When in doubt, don't.
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    Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Wow. Is it just me or does that POS have the "look" of being a 1921? >>



    Dennis,

    It does indeed have the 1921 reverse...not used until 1921 of course....LOL.
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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Jack:

    It sure looks like it has the 1921 obverse too.
    When in doubt, don't.
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    TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭
    notice also how the lettering and stars are nice and sharp while the strike for miss liberty looks worn. the "9" in the date is wrong. and the "CC" mintmark looks like its from an 1878 Morgan(squat CC)

    TorinoCobra71

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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Jack:

    It sure looks like it has the 1921 obverse too. >>



    emailed this scammer and he says:

    ITS NOT, THEN DONT BID ON IT!!!!!HOW HARD IS THAT?


    - 9528cherry

    I also told him this is a violation of eBay policy and a felony for selling counterfeit USA coinage and that the US Secret Service was notified.image
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    DennisHDennisH Posts: 14,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I noticed the seller didn't state a return policy so I asked him what it was, pointing out that there are lots of fakes and counterfeits of this date out there. Here's what he said (sorry about the spelling, punctuation and all-caps, but that's how he sent it):

    HELLO, I HAVE PUT A MAGNET TO IT AND IT DOES NOT STICK, IT IS SAME THICKNESS AS ALL MY OTHER MORGANS. AND SOUNDS THE SAME ON TABLE, I WILL OFFER A 7 DAY REFUND, IF NOT HAPPY WITH COIN, I AM A TRUSTED SELLER HERE AND DONT WANT TO RUIN IT OR HAVE ANY HARD FEELINGS, IF YO WANT TO KNOW IF I AM A TRUSTED SELLER ASK (omitted to protect someone who may be innocent) IS HIS USER ID. THANKS

    He put a magnet to it so it must be real! image
    When in doubt, don't.
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    jpo1965jpo1965 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭
    does the 8&9 in date look like cut from another coin and placed in this one look at marks around them
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    slipgateslipgate Posts: 2,301 ✭✭
    I'm sure the auction will be pulled, but I don't think anyone is dumb enough to pay $2k for a raw key date coin.
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    tightbudgettightbudget Posts: 7,299 ✭✭✭
    Can anyone say 'China!'?
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    AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 25,034 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, it's the wrong reverse, obverse and all other verses. It's a chinese couterfeit and I too emailed the
    seller and got this response: HELLO, THANK YOU, I WILL END LISTING, THANKS AGAIN

    All caps and now maybe he'll do the right thing,
    bob
    Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
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    coindeucecoindeuce Posts: 13,510 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The seller withdrew the listing moments ago, as I was reporting it.

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    ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,405 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Listing ended. good job folks!!
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    pb2ypb2y Posts: 1,461 ✭
    Splended work ladies and gentlemen. Exposing counterfeit coins and crooked dealers
    was once a very lonely undertaking.


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    pb2ypb2y Posts: 1,461 ✭
    The counterfeit Morgan has been relisted-----starting bid .99 cents
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    DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856 ✭


    << <i>Jack:

    It sure looks like it has the 1921 obverse too. >>

    It does. Whoever did it merely changed the date and MM.
    aka Dan
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    Wolf359Wolf359 Posts: 7,666 ✭✭✭
    Yes, he re-listed it as a possible counterfeit.
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    LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Is that legal?
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    pb2ypb2y Posts: 1,461 ✭
    Now the question becomes --- is it a counterfeit or alterd coin ??
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    DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856 ✭


    << <i><STRONG>Now the question becomes --- is it a counterfeit or alterd coin ??</STRONG> >>

    Altered.
    aka Dan
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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Link to New Auction Same Counterfeit

    E-Mail the guy and tell him the crime he is committing.

    Maybe he'll pull it on his own. E-Bay doesn't care
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    lkrarecoinslkrarecoins Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭
    Well, he was trying to get $1995 for it....now maybe he'll get the $19.95 that he deserves...Pathetic!!! image
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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Now the question becomes --- is it a counterfeit or alterd coin ??

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    Altered. >>



    This is NOT an altered coin, it never was a coin. It is from our friends in China.image
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    shmort6552shmort6552 Posts: 696
    He also says that he knows nothing about coins but all of his sales have been coins!!! He must have found them in a shoe box in his Grandmother's attic!!!!image

    Bruce
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    segojasegoja Posts: 6,141 ✭✭✭✭
    Someone's getting taken, but at least not too bad!!!!
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