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8 Morgans back from ICG. Guess the grades! (GRADES REVEALED)
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Sent a batch of morgans into ICG on their $12 2-day special.
Here are the coins pre-slab.
For each coin:
(1) What do you think ICG graded it?
(2) What would YOU grade it?
Here are the coins pre-slab.
For each coin:
(1) What do you think ICG graded it?
(2) What would YOU grade it?
- 1882-S
- 1889
- 1882
- 1881-S
- 1884-CC
- 1885-O
- 1885
- 1881-S
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1) ms63
2) ms64
3) ms63
4) ms63
5) ms63
6) ms64
7) ms62
8) ms63
Will’sProoflikes
64
63
AT
63
64
58
64
<< <i>MS70 >>
Cute. Not intelligent, but cute.
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55
55-62
64
63
63
50
65
What do I win?
BTW nice looking lot.
If you were HSN they would all be MS66 PL
61
63
63
64
65
53
58 or 64, depending on whether or not it has hairlines.
63
64
AT
63
64
55
58
these are my grade guesses
1) 65
2) 65
3) not sure right now, skip
4) 65
5) 64
6) 65
7) AU-50 Harshly cleaned and re-toned
8) 65
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
<< <i>None of these slabbed at PCGS, did they ? >>
None of these were submitted to PCGS. I'm not beholden to any particular grading company, since these are not for investment/resale...
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65 - 64
63 - 62
63 - 63
64 - 63
63 - 63
65 - 64
62 - 58
65 - 64
MS62
MS62
AU58
MS64
MS64
No grade
AU58
64
58
63
63
63
63
55
58
JJ
2) AU53
3) MS63
4) MS64 (could be lower, your pic isn't too good)
5) MS63
6) MS64
7) AU55
8) AU58
2) MS63
3) AT
4) MS63
5) MS63
6) MS64
7) BB
8) MS64
Overall, I nice looking batch.
63
62
64
AT
62
64
bb or Net AU details
58
Hell, I don't need to exercise.....I get enough just pushing my luck.
64
58
64
64
63
64
cleaned
65
So why slab them in the first place?
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
<< <i>None of these were submitted to PCGS. I'm not beholden to any particular grading company, since these are not for investment/resale...
So why slab them in the first place? >>
Believe it or not, resale isn't the only reason to slab a coin. Protection, presentation, verification of authenticity, weeding out "problem coins", and "just because I feel like it," are all valid reasons to slab coins. Why do people slab $5 value Lincolns, Jeffersons, and Roosevelts?
I really don't get the whole "Why bother if it isn't PCGS" mentality... I understand when it comes to investment-grade material, and for those consumed with the Registry chase, but in the areas I tend to collect (Darkside and toners), one slab is as good as another. On the Darkside, with the exception of a few countries, there is no correlation between the flavor of the slab and the price received; I sell ICG, ANACS, NGC, PCGS, and occasionally even old-world PCI, all with positive results. On the common-grade, common-date Morgan toners I collect, the technical grade isn't what's going to sell the coin (if I ever sell), it's the color. For example, on a garden variety MS63 1881-S, does anyone *really* care if it's in a PCGS vs. NGC vs. ANACS vs. ICG holder?
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<< <i>now that i look again, 3,7,and 8 may be questionable toning? >>
3 and 7, maybe. 8 looks NT to me. Nice group anyway. With some of those, the assigned grade is only half the valuation weight anyway these days.
NSDR - Life Member
SSDC - Life Member
ANA - Pay As I Go Member
63
58
62
bb
62
bb
bb
58
In my opinion, ICG was quite conservative. Only one of the AT coins was clearly recognized as such by the folks here. I think ICG missed the mark on #2 and #6 in my opinion. I was really hoping for a 63-64 on the CC.
1) 63, 64, 64, 61, 64, 65, 64, 63, 64, 63, 64, 63, 64, 63, 63 MS63
2) 64, 64, 55, 61, 63, 65, 62, 62, 58, 53, 63, 62, 58, 63, 58 Questionable Toning
3) 63, 63, 55-62, 63, 64, ??, 63, 62, 63, 63, AT, 64, 64, 64, 62 MS63
4) 63, AT, 64, 63, AT, 65, 63, 58, 63, 64, 63, AT, 64, BB, BB Questionable Toning
5) 63, 63, 63, 64, 63, 64, 63, 64, 63, 63, 63, 62, 63, 63, 62 MS62
6) 64, 64, 63, 65, 64, 65, 64, 64, 63, 64, 64, 64, 64, 64, BB Questionable Toning
7) 62, 58, 50, 53, 55, AU cleaned, 58, BB, 55, 55, BB, BB or net AU, BB, 55, BB AU55
8) 63, ??, 65, 58 or 64, 58, 65, 64, 58, 58, 58, 64, 58, 65, 64, 58 MS63
Thanks for playing!
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<< <i>Overall, ICG seemed conservative and honest. >>
They are as good as anyone until you start getting into MS-65+ coins, most particularly (but not exclusively) moderns. It is their unfortunate looseness with very high-grade moderns which torpedos their entire reputation, even though for circulated and lower-grade MS classics they are as good as anyone, IMO, bar none.