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Sunday error coin pic post anyone?
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I'll start with this clipped Franklin that I have owned for about 10 years. One of the few "keepers" that I still own.
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peacockcoins
Give Me Liberty or Give Me Debt
San Diego, CA
1969s WCLR-001 counterclash
Off Center by 10%
A Broad Strike
A 3% Clip
1978 was a good year for screwing up the IKEs at the Mint!
The name is LEE!
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CoinsAreFun Toned Silver Eagle Proof Album
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Gallery Mint Museum, Ron Landis& Joe Rust, The beginnings of the Golden Dollar
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More CoinsAreFun Pictorials NGC
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
coinpage.com
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Nice! It looks like that beauty saw some action at Normandy.
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That is a wicked coin!
One of three, after searching hours worth of rolls.
Speared Washington? LOL
Ed. S.
(EJS)
<< <i>Don't think I've shown off this steel cent brockage yet.
That is sweet!
Long Live The King !
1997 Matte Nickel strike thru U
"Error Collector- I Love Dem Crazy Coins"
"Money, what is money? It is loaned to a man; he comes into the world with nothing and he leaves with nothing." Billy Durant. Founder of General Motors. He died a pauper.
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Ragged clip or straight clip on an off center?
San Diego, CA
<< <i>Look like an edge strike on a o/c cent. >>
Correct! 10% off center, second strike on edge. Full date shows! PCGS MS 65
Hoard the keys.
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/publishedset/209923
https://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/quarters/washington-quarters-major-sets/washington-quarters-date-set-circulation-strikes-1932-present/album/209923
Ed. S.
(EJS)
1948s. From a minimart/gas station, someone must have hit up dad's collection.
Sackie struck through string or something.
Clash, I also have a couple of coins that appear to have come from the same die AFTER they attempted to polish it out.
1969s WCLR-001 counterclash
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<< <i>Look like an edge strike on a o/c cent. >>
Correct! 10% off center, second strike on edge. Full date shows! PCGS MS 65 >>
It could be an edge strike after an initial off-center strike, just as you say. However, another possibility is that this all occurred during a single downstroke, with the edge strike coming first. It's conceivable that, just after the dies made first contact with the edge, the coin slipped and fell on its side. The completion of the downstroke created the off-center strike. I have at least one error that matches this description in my collection.
A picture of the opposite edge might help discriminate between these two possibilities. However, it's not always possible to make this determination.
A picture of the opposite edge might help discriminate between these two possibilities. However, it's not always possible to make this determination. >>
It had been longer than I thought since I looked at this coin. It is 15% off center and was graded by PCGS as MS66RD as you can see. pcgserror
PCGSerror
Something that the mailman brought today:
<< <i>It could be an edge strike after an initial off-center strike, just as you say. However, another possibility is that this all occurred during a single downstroke, with the edge strike coming first. It's conceivable that, just after the dies made first contact with the edge, the coin slipped and fell on its side. The completion of the downstroke created the off-center strike. I have at least one error that matches this description in my collection.
A picture of the opposite edge might help discriminate between these two possibilities. However, it's not always possible to make this determination. >>
It had been longer than I thought since I looked at this coin. It is 15% off center and was graded by PCGS as MS66RD as you can see. >>
Pity. Since it's now locked in a slab there will be no way to see if PCGS was correct in its diagnosis.
Pity. Since it's now locked in a slab there will be no way to see if PCGS was correct in its diagnosis. >>
I've never questioned Mr. Weinberg before, so why start now?
One should never grant any expert or any organization blanket acceptance of opinions they may render. One should always consider alternative hypotheses. One should always examine the coin to see if its appearance supports the stated diagnosis.
Fred may be right or wrong in his diagnosis. Your photos fail to show evidence necessary for making a determination. The slab gasket itself may hide such evidence. It may not even be possible to clearly rule in favor of one scenario. Even if informative evidence is present, it would still require careful study under a microscope. Here's one thing to look for. If the off-center strike overlaps the other edge strike (the edge not shown), then this will provide a critical clue. If the metal is pushed up on the edge in the area of overlap, then you'll know that Fred's diagnosis is correct. If the metal is not pushed up, then that means that the off-center strike came later. And that leaves open the possibility that a single downstroke was responsible for both edge and off-center strikes. If there is no overlap between the off-center strike and either edge strike, then that makes it almost impossible to say which scenario is correct.
Here's an example of what I mean when I say that one must study errors carefully. At the just-concluded ANA show I purchased an ANACS-slabbed "triple-struck foldover/edge strike". I could see exactly why they thought three strikes were involved. There were three die-struck areas -- the edge and two close off-center strikes (or what looked like close off-center strikes). Careful study showed that all areas of die-struck design were produced by a single downstroke. It took me several hours to figure out exactly what happened to the coin. I don't blame ANACS for their misdiagnosis at all. I would not expect any authenticator to spend that amount of time on a single coin. They really don't have the time.
Errors can be subtle and complex. That's why they're so much fun.