As the 1970-D was heavily, of course, saved (the real trick would be to find one that circulated...) I'd think the 1971-P in MS66 or better might be considered a 'Key Date' (using the term loosely).
There are others, but like the 71-P I'd call them more "condition key dates" rather than scarce coins to locate.
From the mint's website: ( They should hire the COIN VAULT guys )
The United States Mint is opening the vault and offering never before released 2001-dated (P) Kennedy half dollars! To complete this offer, the United States Mint is including 2001-dated (D) Kennedy half dollars in the 200-coin bag as the 2001 (D) were only released in small quantities in limited areas of the country. Your collection of Kennedy half dollars can now be complete with the purchase of these coins.
<< <i>The 1998-S Silver "Matte" uncirculated Kennedy was only issued in the two piece Commemorative set with a population of 62,350.
So if you want to call one coin a key to a series, I think it would have to be the 98-S "Matte" >>
That's not really a coin, more like a commemorative.
Russ, NCNE >>
Even as a Kennedy novice, I gotta disagree. If you collect Kennedys, you have to have this one! Of course, if I didn't own one, I'd be singing a different tune!
<< <i><< The 1998-S Silver "Matte" uncirculated Kennedy was only issued in the two piece Commemorative set with a population of 62,350.
So if you want to call one coin a key to a series, I think it would have to be the 98-S "Matte" >>
That's not really a coin, more like a commemorative.
Russ, NCNE >>
Even as a Kennedy novice, I gotta disagree. If you collect Kennedys, you have to have this one! Of course, if I didn't own one, I'd be singing a different tune! >>
I agree it's definitely one to have. But, if one is building a key date business strike set as the OP is, it doesn't qualify.
The Kennedy Half Series has mutated so many times that there are alot of variables involved in deciding what a collection of them should consist of. The different variations on a theme include:
90% Silver Business Strikes & Proofs
40% Silver Business Strikes & Proofs
Clad Composition Business Strikes & Proofs
Satin Finish in Mint Sets only
Silver Proofs in Silver Proof Sets only
"Business Strikes" sold direct by the Mint only
Matte Finish Proof Special Issue
SMS finish coins
Die Varieties
Excluding the 1964 SMS, Die Varieties and the Ultra High Condition Census coins, I'd say that everything else is fair game, and the 1998-S Matte Proof would be my pick for key in this series.
Once you progress to where Russ is from a collecting standpoint, you'd throw everything else into the mix, and then the 1964 SMS coins would be on top of the heap.
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In MS-60 or better than the '70-D is the key date of the regular business strikes (though it was in the mint set only so might not be considered regular issue). Not to be overlooked is the '76-S Unc 40% high speed issue. Sales of this coin were far lower than the '70-D and attrition has been high.
In nice attractive near gem and better the '70-D really isn't even a contender for scarcity. The '70-D was well made and nice specimens are not difficult to find. The '80-D is really tough in nice attractive condition. The '91-D is nearly as tough as the '70-D in unc and is far scarcer nice. The '78-D is a real sleeper. This coin had a low mintage and it was overlooked by col- lectors. There were still a lot set aside but they were mostly all stinkers. Nice coins of this date come from the mint sets but this date has had high attrition and the survivors have been exposed to the deteriorating packagiung over the last six or eight years. This date is much less available in unc than most people realize and gem coins are hardly common. Near gems aren't too tough. The '71-P isn't so tough in the highjest grades but there's a surprising dearth of the just missed and choice coins. Roll coins are often nice but infrequently seen.
The '70-D comes as a spectacular PL as do most of the Kennedys but is one of the most common in extremely high grade.
There are no gem high speed coins. They all look like junk.
<< <i>The '70-D comes as a spectacular PL as do most of the Kennedys but is one of the most common in extremely high grade. >>
Cladking,
Sorry but I have to disagree with you on this one. PCGS has graded two in MS67 with none better. PCGS price guide list $4500 for 70-D in MS67, and I know of two collectors that would gladly buy at the $5000 level. So the comment "most common in extrimely high grade" may be a little off base.
Sorry but I have to disagree with you on this one. PCGS has graded two in MS67 with none better. PCGS price guide list $4500 for 70-D in MS67, and I know of two collectors that would gladly buy at the $5000 level. So the comment "most common in extrimely high grade" may be a little off base. >>
Cladking defines high grade differently than registry set owners. I'd guess he's talking about Gem coins, and there really are plenty of those available.
<< <i>In the Bussiness Strikes is the 70 D considered the main Key date? >>
In the same sense that the '50-D nickel is a key to the Jefferson series, I suppose. Of course, the '70-D kennedy was only released in mint sets, which ensured its survival...but very few '50-D nickels circulated, either. As a result it's the lowest mintage business strike Jefferson by a pretty wide margin but one of the most common in gem uncirculated condition.
cladking, what's a high speed coin? Pardon my ignorance, but I've not heard of them. >>
Thanks Russ.
In June of '76 the mint reinterpreted the enabling legislation for the silver uncs to mean that they had to strike the full allotment rather than that it was a mintage limit. With only a few weeks to act they ran off more than ten million of the 40% silver coins on high speed presses and unceremon- iously dumped them in 55 gallon drums. These coins are terrible and bear little resemblance to the higher quality coins in the various packaging with a white stripe on the plastic sleeve. These were packaged in similar exter- ior packaging but they don't have the stripe. Sales were very poor since the quality was so bad. Many were destroyed in '80 silver melt. Sales con- tinued until 1982 and the balance was melted.
These are not often seen and not often collected as a distinct coin. They are truly distinct and can be differentiated from the higher quality coins in all cases.
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Russ, NCNE
Thanks for the response
AL
There are others, but like the 71-P I'd call them more "condition key dates" rather than scarce coins to locate.
peacockcoins
<< <i>In the Bussiness Strikes is the 70 D considered the main Key date? >>
The 70-D was only issued in Mint Sets with a population of 2,038,134.
The 1998-S Silver "Matte" uncirculated Kennedy was only issued in the two piece Commemorative set with a population of 62,350.
So if you want to call one coin a key to a series, I think it would have to be the 98-S "Matte"
JMHO
These coins are so special that the US MINT has continued to sell them for years after the date of issue
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<< <i>The 1998-S Silver "Matte" uncirculated Kennedy was only issued in the two piece Commemorative set with a population of 62,350.
So if you want to call one coin a key to a series, I think it would have to be the 98-S "Matte" >>
That's not really a coin, more like a commemorative.
Russ, NCNE
The United States Mint is opening the vault and offering never before released 2001-dated (P) Kennedy half dollars! To complete this offer, the United States Mint is including 2001-dated (D) Kennedy half dollars in the 200-coin bag as the 2001 (D) were only released in small quantities in limited areas of the country. Your collection of Kennedy half dollars can now be complete with the purchase of these coins.
Hype or KEY ?
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<< <i>
<< <i>The 1998-S Silver "Matte" uncirculated Kennedy was only issued in the two piece Commemorative set with a population of 62,350.
So if you want to call one coin a key to a series, I think it would have to be the 98-S "Matte" >>
That's not really a coin, more like a commemorative.
Russ, NCNE >>
Even as a Kennedy novice, I gotta disagree. If you collect Kennedys, you have to have this one! Of course, if I didn't own one, I'd be singing a different tune!
<< <i><< The 1998-S Silver "Matte" uncirculated Kennedy was only issued in the two piece Commemorative set with a population of 62,350.
So if you want to call one coin a key to a series, I think it would have to be the 98-S "Matte" >>
That's not really a coin, more like a commemorative.
Russ, NCNE >>
Even as a Kennedy novice, I gotta disagree. If you collect Kennedys, you have to have this one! Of course, if I didn't own one, I'd be singing a different tune! >>
I agree it's definitely one to have. But, if one is building a key date business strike set as the OP is, it doesn't qualify.
Russ, NCNE
What do you think the best Kennedy book is? I'm sure this has been mentioned before, so I apologize in advance! Thanks!
Sneed
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>The Kennedy Half Dollar Book by James Wiles.
Russ, NCNE >>
Thank you Russ! I'll order it post-haste!
90% Silver Business Strikes & Proofs
40% Silver Business Strikes & Proofs
Clad Composition Business Strikes & Proofs
Satin Finish in Mint Sets only
Silver Proofs in Silver Proof Sets only
"Business Strikes" sold direct by the Mint only
Matte Finish Proof Special Issue
SMS finish coins
Die Varieties
Excluding the 1964 SMS, Die Varieties and the Ultra High Condition Census coins, I'd say that everything else is fair game, and the 1998-S Matte Proof would be my pick for key in this series.
Once you progress to where Russ is from a collecting standpoint, you'd throw everything else into the mix, and then the 1964 SMS coins would be on top of the heap.
I knew it would happen.
great info
AL
For the Basic Set with Varities, the 1970-D and 1974-D DDO share the spotlight.
If yer lucky, both can be had from bank rolls but you gotta be real lucky.
The name is LEE!
it was in the mint set only so might not be considered regular issue). Not to be overlooked
is the '76-S Unc 40% high speed issue. Sales of this coin were far lower than the '70-D and
attrition has been high.
In nice attractive near gem and better the '70-D really isn't even a contender for scarcity. The
'70-D was well made and nice specimens are not difficult to find. The '80-D is really tough in
nice attractive condition. The '91-D is nearly as tough as the '70-D in unc and is far scarcer
nice. The '78-D is a real sleeper. This coin had a low mintage and it was overlooked by col-
lectors. There were still a lot set aside but they were mostly all stinkers. Nice coins of this
date come from the mint sets but this date has had high attrition and the survivors have been
exposed to the deteriorating packagiung over the last six or eight years. This date is much
less available in unc than most people realize and gem coins are hardly common. Near gems
aren't too tough. The '71-P isn't so tough in the highjest grades but there's a surprising dearth
of the just missed and choice coins. Roll coins are often nice but infrequently seen.
The '70-D comes as a spectacular PL as do most of the Kennedys but is one of the most common
in extremely high grade.
There are no gem high speed coins. They all look like junk.
cladking, what's a high speed coin? Pardon my ignorance, but I've not heard of them.
I knew it would happen.
<< <i>The '70-D comes as a spectacular PL as do most of the Kennedys but is one of the most common
in extremely high grade. >>
Cladking,
Sorry but I have to disagree with you on this one. PCGS has graded two in MS67 with none better. PCGS price guide list $4500 for 70-D in MS67, and I know of two collectors that would gladly buy at the $5000 level. So the comment "most common in extrimely high grade" may be a little off base.
JMHO,
Tim
<< <i>Cladking,
Sorry but I have to disagree with you on this one. PCGS has graded two in MS67 with none better. PCGS price guide list $4500 for 70-D in MS67, and I know of two collectors that would gladly buy at the $5000 level. So the comment "most common in extrimely high grade" may be a little off base. >>
Cladking defines high grade differently than registry set owners. I'd guess he's talking about Gem coins, and there really are plenty of those available.
Russ, NCNE
<< <i>In the Bussiness Strikes is the 70 D considered the main Key date? >>
In the same sense that the '50-D nickel is a key to the Jefferson series, I suppose. Of course, the '70-D kennedy was only released in mint sets, which ensured its survival...but very few '50-D nickels circulated, either. As a result it's the lowest mintage business strike Jefferson by a pretty wide margin but one of the most common in gem uncirculated condition.
Mintage can be deceiving.
<< <i>the '76-S Unc 40% high speed issue.
cladking, what's a high speed coin? Pardon my ignorance, but I've not heard of them. >>
Thanks Russ.
In June of '76 the mint reinterpreted the enabling legislation for the silver
uncs to mean that they had to strike the full allotment rather than that it
was a mintage limit. With only a few weeks to act they ran off more than
ten million of the 40% silver coins on high speed presses and unceremon-
iously dumped them in 55 gallon drums. These coins are terrible and bear
little resemblance to the higher quality coins in the various packaging with
a white stripe on the plastic sleeve. These were packaged in similar exter-
ior packaging but they don't have the stripe. Sales were very poor since
the quality was so bad. Many were destroyed in '80 silver melt. Sales con-
tinued until 1982 and the balance was melted.
These are not often seen and not often collected as a distinct coin. They
are truly distinct and can be differentiated from the higher quality coins in
all cases.