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Planing on opening a Stamp & Coin Shop, want your input.

I'm planing on opening a brick & mortar shop outside of Philly in the next 3-6 months. Collectors, what type of material do you look for when you go to a local dealer? I want to make sure I have the type of material on hand to satisfy customers. Supplies as well, I want to do this right and your input will help.

Thanks for your time.


Lou
lchobbyco
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Collectors, what type of material do you look for when you go to a local dealer? >>



    Not stamps.

    Russ, NCNE
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    CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Half Dimes and Gold Dollars only. I'll be your best customer image
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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
    do a huge pre- grand opening giveaway here for the board image, and good luck with your venture
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    ellewoodellewood Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭
    Personally, I would think you'd be better off buying a great camera, learning how to photograph coins and then sell them online thru a website. A lot less overhead...that is for sure! From what I gather around this place...B & M shops are a tough business to tackle. JMO.
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    BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,790 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You need some nice, high valued, slabs in order to give yourself the right look for people.
    To sell, you need moderns, mint sets/proof sets, SAEs.
    You also need to have the silver washingtons, roosevelts, etc, in different grades.

    Then, you need to have the circ classics.

    You need the lower priced stuff to sell to beginners and walk-ins and the modern mint stuff for birthdays/anniversarys/small gifts and so that people will be able to buy from you and remember you.

    Majority of your profits will come from buying from walk ins.

    You also need a fair amount of bullion on hand to sell. Local dealer said gold got bought super quickly when price dropped a few weeks ago. He had trouble keeping it in stock.


    For supplies, you need the cheap whitmans, better danscos, and flips and cardboard holders. Also, the cheap cotton gloves, etc.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
    BTW, properly graded and priced coins, and helpful friendly staff
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    fcfc Posts: 12,805 ✭✭✭
    Personally, I would think you'd be better off buying a great camera, learning how to photograph coins and then sell them online thru a website. A lot less overhead...that is for sure! From what I gather around this place...B & M shops are a tough business to tackle. JMO.

    good advice that! keep your daytime job until coins bring in a substantial amount of money for you to live on.
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    LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    You're best bet on answering your question is knowing the members of the local coin club and what they collect.

    #1 advice. Safety should rank HIGH on your priority list.

    -David
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    RarityRarity Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭
    A few nice, problem free, XF-AU $10 Indian gold, $20 Liberty, original box proof sets, ASE, Platinum, and early date Lincold cents, matte proof Buffalo nickels graded by PCGS. Also, keep a few of First Spouse proof gold coins in display and I'm sure your shop will attract many potential buyers.

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    LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    Btw... Right now, I'm looking for nice full rim G to VF barber coins when I go to the local dealer. If you'd have asked me six months ago, full horn buffalo nickels. If you'd have asked me two years ago, nice XF-AU lincolns....

    -David
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    I like to see a variety of coins and currency, both raw and certified, ranging in grades from G to MS. You'll need books full of coins in 2x2's for the raw collectors and kids. I hate seeing a dealers case that is full of nothing much but Morgans and Franklins. You'll also need to keep a good stock of books and supplies. Good luck!

    Bob
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    As many coin-related books as possible, too!

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    mrearlygoldmrearlygold Posts: 17,858 ✭✭✭
    I admire your desire to have a shop. I gave up mine in 1982. Was offered one from an old friend of mine in Forked River NJ about 10 years ago and I passed. Couldn't stand being back in a fishbowl all day plus it's just too dangerous nowadays. Not even all that worried about me as I'm pretty vigilant and can handle extreme situations ( but who wants that in their life? ), but nowadays you have lowlifes that would watch and maybe stalk the Wife and Kids if you have them.

    But if you insist on doing that. Please make sure you get with an alarm specialist and go further than simple glass and door alarms. Do the camera's, safe alarms, under the carpet alarms, roof alarms, etc etc. Call Barb Wingo and get a quote for a total insurance package.

    Think about and really research just who is your market. You might put out choice circ Type and find out that the general population is merely interested in selling you their "diamonds" when in fact all they have are cubic zirconia's

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    << <i>Was offered one from an old friend of mine in Forked River NJ >>



    wish you had taken it then there would be at least a decent one in the area! ( not the thief we have one town downimageisgustimage
    steve

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    LouisCampLouisCamp Posts: 468 ✭✭✭
    We are going to do it safely, thanks for your input.

    Lou
    lchobbyco
    ANA Life-Member
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    RWBRWB Posts: 8,082
    Suggest you sit down and write a real-world business plan for the first year as a startup, and then five more years as a sustaining business. You must understand before you do a Grand Opening, how the business is going to pay its expenses and how you are going to pay yourself.

    In addition to a financial budget, you need a time budget for yourself and any potential employees.

    Once you’ve done this basic planning, you can consider what type of stock to carry and then modify the plan accordingly.
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    CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,345 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Would it be anywhere near Lancaster? If so, that'd be cool.
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    lkrarecoinslkrarecoins Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭
    make sure you have low-end coins as well...not everyone can afford $5K coins...plus you'll get to put smiles on kids faces

    Good luck in your venture! I will stop by when I am in the Philly Area image
    In Loving Memory of my Dad......My best friend, My inspiration, and My Coin Collecting Partner

    "La Vostra Nonna Ha Faccia Del Fungo"
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    lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720
    I went into business back in 1976.
    I started up a machine shop.
    When you look at going businesses, they sure do seem attractive.
    What I learned though, is that being in business is a lot like taking a bath.
    It ain't so hot after you're in.
    I still have the machine shop, anyways.
    I don't know any better.

    Ray
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    TCoinsTCoins Posts: 567 ✭✭
    I have never owned a BM shop and I can't say I have great knowlegde of the coin industry. But I will offer these observations.

    1 It seems a lot less expensive to operate a coin business through the internet.

    2 Most BM coin shops make their money through purchasing walk in coin colections. (Some think their only way of making a profit is to steal great collections from uninformed widows.)

    3 If you've got the ability to open a BM shop, I would try to combine the two. There can be a long periods between customers. This tiime can be use effectively by posting coins on the net.

    4 Rotate your inventory. I hate returning to a coin shop six months later and finding the same crap I saw six months earlier. If it doesn't move, sell it on the Bay

    5 If I owned a BM coin shop, I would keep a basket of junk coins. I don't care if its the three lincoln pennys I received after purchasing a Big Mac at McDonalds for lunch. I would give a coin from the basket to any child (ten and under) who came into the shop. It may not be much, but to a nine year old, it will always be remembered.

    6 And I agree, you need a good business plan.

    Just my two cents.
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    fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    I think you may want to check out the local dealers and see what they have.

    The economy of certain area may influence what people buy. We have many collectors in Wisconsin who want coins, but buy lower end stuff. Some of this, in my opinion, is based on wages and other economic influences. This area wages seem to be lower that other parts of the country and taxes are higher which, again in my opinion, take away a lot of the discretionary income of people. If Philadelphia has a good business economy, housing cost are reasonable and taxes are reasonable, etc you would want to carry a different type of inventory for that area. The dealers in my area don't and won't carry slabbed coins. They don't want them if you want to sell them. My guess is if they don't want them, they can't sell them. As many of the people on this board knows I have a Registry Set of Mercury Dimes. If it ever comes a time to sell, I will not be able to sell them local because there just isn't the interest here. Chicago (about an hour south) would be able to support much higher end because wages are better, taxes are better and the business climate is better.

    I understand you asking the people here for their input, but you really need to research the area in which you are looking at doing you B&M.

    I wish you the best of luck!


    President, Racine Numismatic Society 2013-2014; Variety Resource Dimes; See 6/8/12 CDN for my article on Winged Liberty Dimes; Ebay

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    I suggest that you get a table at some local shows. It would be a great way to meet collectors and advertise your store.

    Offer a decent price when you buy. I know that you need to make a profit to stay open, but Greysheet Bid -20% on fast moving items seem a bit harsh.

    As other have said, keep some small stuff in stock. Get the current issues of the State Quarters and Presidential Dollars from your bank at face. It will bring people in if they know you have them.

    As for stuff to stock, Get some Modern Crap from the Mint, Proof Sets, Mint Sets and ASEs.

    Make sure that you get a web site and sell that way too as others have suggested.

    Good Luck!
    I'd keep playing. I don't think the heavy stuff will be coming down for quite a while!
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    Musky1011Musky1011 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭✭
    midgrade type coins- the ones that are affordable to most people


    Jim
    Pilgrim Clock and Gift Shop.. Expert clock repair since 1844

    Menomonee Falls Wisconsin USA

    http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistr...dset.aspx?s=68269&ac=1">Musky 1861 Mint Set
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    Keep a good inventory of low dollar items (1$-$300). Treat kids with respect and you can hook them as life long customers, take time to educate them, and have some inexpensive give-aways. Have a bid board and let your customers sell their duplicates on your board. keep a respectable 10-15% for what you do to run the board. If ever in terre haute Indiana visit the "Coin Merchant". The owner (no relation to me) does it right (in my humble opinion). Also join the local coin and stamp clubs and attend their meetings. Fill want lists and keep a good inventory of frequently ordered/sold supplies.
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    coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>You need some nice, high valued, slabs in order to give yourself the right look for people.
    To sell, you need moderns, mint sets/proof sets, SAEs.
    You also need to have the silver washingtons, roosevelts, etc, in different grades.

    Then, you need to have the circ classics.

    You need the lower priced stuff to sell to beginners and walk-ins and the modern mint stuff for birthdays/anniversarys/small gifts and so that people will be able to buy from you and remember you.

    Majority of your profits will come from buying from walk ins.

    You also need a fair amount of bullion on hand to sell. Local dealer said gold got bought super quickly when price dropped a few weeks ago. He had trouble keeping it in stock.


    For supplies, you need the cheap whitmans, better danscos, and flips and cardboard holders. Also, the cheap cotton gloves, etc. >>









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    TorinoCobra71TorinoCobra71 Posts: 8,099 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>Collectors, what type of material do you look for when you go to a local dealer? >>



    Not stamps.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Russ, as always, has unique insight.........

    TC71
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    coinsarefuncoinsarefun Posts: 21,781 ✭✭✭✭✭
    By the way, take some pictures of your place and post them please.
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    CoinHuskerCoinHusker Posts: 5,034 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Personally, I would think you'd be better off buying a great camera, learning how to photograph coins and then sell them online thru a website. A lot less overhead...that is for sure! From what I gather around this place...B & M shops are a tough business to tackle. JMO. >>





    True, but it's those "walk ins" with stuff to sell that can make it all worth while. image
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    droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭
    I would be looking for higher grade early Lincolns and a nice variety of type coins.

    And all should be PQ of course! image

    Lots of bullion, modern crap and foreign stuff would be a turnoff for me.
    Me at the Springfield coin show:
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    60 years into this hobby and I'm still working on my Lincoln set!
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    << <i> 5 If I owned a BM coin shop, I would keep a basket of junk coins. I don't care if its the three lincoln pennys I received after purchasing a Big Mac at McDonalds for lunch. I would give a coin from the basket to any child (ten and under) who came into the shop. It may not be much, but to a nine year old, it will always be remembered. >>



    This. Probably one of the best things to do is give some things away, especially to little kids. As much as you need to sell coins you need to grow the hobby. The best way to do that is to get little kids interested in it.

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