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copper collectors -- how about this 1853 half cent?

tychojoetychojoe Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭
Hunting while on vacation in Kansas turned up this copper, the best I could find in terms of original surfaces. Comments on the grade appreciated. I don't know which AU to call it, 55 or 58 (but not 53 I think) (won't be slabbing it either).

When I bought it, I couldn't see anything negative about it. Later, grime (verdigris?) was seen around the L, T and Y in LIBERTY. Photograhy just showed 3 things I never noticed before either: rust-color in the lower right of both sides; a chipped rim at k-1 and k-2; and light spots at k-1 and k-3.

Those observations are more about how untrained my eye is, and how photography highlights normally hidden features, especially variations in surface colors. That color subtlety is something I'm noticing alot when shopping online for bust coinage.

None of those grading details bother me, though, because in hand this piece appears like the definition of milk chocolate in color, especially the reverse. Both sides are even in color, and unlike the pictures, look like actual Swiss milk chocolate in the shape of medallions! (a lighter, richer brown than in the photography). When I first saw this piece, I finally understood what "chocolate" means in descriptions of old copper.

But the pictures are off. Do those of you who see a lot of copper typically see a significant mismatch between the coin and its picture?
[edit update: image new pictures posted after the first two errant ones]

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color corrected by "USAROK View" This is closer to the real thing -- I've gotta' find a program where I can color correct. "Paint" just doesn't cut it! (Thanks, Terry! image )
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Comments

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 4,643 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dude, the coin is blue green to me. Is this vertigris or vertigross?

    Just having fun.
  • tychojoetychojoe Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭
    um...that's a problem! It's a perfect light brown in hand... maybe I should start sending my coins out for photographic services!
  • tychojoetychojoe Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭
    ...time zone bump and title change
  • holeinone1972holeinone1972 Posts: 5,368 ✭✭✭
    Not taking into acct the awful picture (sorry, but it's bad) the coin looks pretty good as far as the surfaces. I would go au-ish on the grade.

    Not a bad piece since it was circulated, and it is 154 yrs old.
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  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,343 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dayum! That's some greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen copper! Looks like a copper weather vane on an old barn image
  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,011 ✭✭✭✭✭
    A month or two in circulation will fix it right up ! It's been stripped of all the dirt it used to have on it, as I see it. image
  • tychojoetychojoe Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭
    New pictures posted after the first two bad ones. Guys I really do appreciate your frank feedback - thanks for the responses! --John

    Hi TwoSides -- Anything in particular make you think it's been stripped of dirt? Do you mean dipped or soaked in oil or something? I haven't a clue -- maybe the small carbon-like spots are a remnant of something. Or maybe the fact that a little grime is around the obverse L, T and Y indicates that there once was more dirt?
  • richardshipprichardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
    With the color corrected in your pics the coin looks good to me. I too really struggle with shooting copper. For comparative purposes here is my 1853 Half Cent in an Anacs AU55 slab. Your's looks to have much nicer surfaces than mine. If the color is good then I'd go AU58 on yours. Nice Coin, Congrats.

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