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Bought my first bust half at the Modesto show

ChrisRxChrisRx Posts: 5,619 ✭✭✭✭
Don't know anything about this series. Any good books you recommend?


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Yikes. Those hairlines on the reverse are not on the coin.
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    DJCoinzDJCoinz Posts: 3,856 ✭
    I don't know anything about this series either. image Nice coin.
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    blu62vetteblu62vette Posts: 11,975 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I dont know bust halves but how was the Modesto show?
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    CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cool coin image

    Bust Half Fever by Edgar Souders is just about the best book on those coins available. Might want to look into getting the Overton reference book as well (hint - get the 3rd edition, not the 4th).
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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Below is part of a response I wrote to a thread three days ago-

    1) For early half dollars, the classic reference for variety identification is United States Early Half Dollars and Die Varieties 1794-1836 by Al Overton. Unfortunately, the newly published fourth edition of this classic has the name of his son-in-law as the author, Don Parsley, in my opinion this is a travesty since the work is nearly entirely that of Al Overton while Don Parsley has updated it since Al's death in 1970. I own both the third (1990) and fourth (2005) editions, but I have found that I do not even open the fourth edition because it has so little extra that was not in the third edition. The first and second editions are clearly not as useful and I would suggest you save your money and buy one of these later editions. You may find these editions on ebay or online through Stack's or Sheridan Downey. Though you should be able to find these at $50-$65, plan on spending at least $35 for a used edition and up to $85 for the new edition.

    2) Edgar Souders published Bust Half Fever in 1995 and a new edition, that I believe is greatly expanded and has more information, was published in 2005. This book contains much more history of the time and delves more into how the coins were used, made and collected. The book is terrific. You may find the paper or electronic version on ebay or through Stack's. I believe the second edition is approximately $85 while the first edition, which is long out of print, will likely run you about $115.

    3) Contemporary Counterfeit Capped Bust Half Dollars written in 1996 by Keith Davignon, deals only with counterfeits passed off in the channels of commerce, as its name implies. It may be pricey at about $50 for this esoteric niche, but it is terrific, too.

    4) Jules Reiver published the ultimate Variety Identification Manual for Reeded Edge Half Dollars 1836-1839 in 1988 but this is nearly impossible to find in print and I purchased my copy after looking for several years and paid about $50. Heritage now offers this manual online and free to read, though it is even more difficult to use in the online format.

    5) The ANS publication titled America's Silver Coinage 1794-1891 from the ANS Coinage of the Americas Conference in 1986 is fantastic. The book itself was published in 1987 and can be had for $15. It contains myriad intellectual research articles on early silver coinage.

    6) There are also a pair of specialized price guides that are dedicated to the early half dollar niche and include Bust Half Quotes by Fricke and Karoleff as well as Auction and Mail Bid Prices Realized for Bust Half Dollars 1794-1839 by Herrman and Downey Mail Bid Sales by Herrman and Downey. Each of these is $20-$30 and may be picked up through Sheridan Downey.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tom,

    I have tried to find the Reiver's manual and can't seem to get there. any help would be greatly appreciated.

    ps
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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,277 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You may need to be logged in at the Heritage site to use the VIM. A link to it is present within the text for each auction lot of a RE half.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    greghansengreghansen Posts: 4,301 ✭✭✭
    Perfectly suitable for a first coin of the series purchase. Improperly cleaned IMO, and as a result not one that would probably interest me personally. If this is a grade F-VF grade level of Bust Half's that you think you might collect raw in the future, you may want to consider posting a thread asking others to post images of F-VF Bust coins that are slabbed or which the consensus considers original, so you can begin to develop an eye for the distinction. Good luck!

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    spend it, sell it, or give it away VERY FAST.
    Bust haves are a work of the devil.
    They will consume you.
    Be very afraid.



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    habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    re half.... as in reeded edge I am looking at lot 802 Auction 444 nice 1812 AU 58 where is the link please.
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    TomBTomB Posts: 23,277 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>re half.... as in reeded edge I am looking at lot 802 Auction 444 nice 1812 AU 58 where is the link please. >>


    You of course won't see a link within lot 802 of auction 444 since an 1812 half is a Capped Bust half (CBH) and not a Reeded Edge half (RE). If you are interested in the Reiver VIM of RE halves then go to any RE half lot in the sale, such as 827, and the link is directly between the description of the lot and the price history for the issue.
    Thomas Bush Numismatics & Numismatic Photography

    In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson

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    habaracahabaraca Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks Tom

    well of course I won't see it. and if I had read your whole description above, AGAIN, (I did read the original a few days ago), I would have figured that out.. all I saw was
    Jules and half., guide. Didn't even see the REEDED part. As also mentioned above stay away!!!!!!!!!!!! they will drive you crazy, and stupid.

    better stick to my day job during working hours.

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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
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    zap1111zap1111 Posts: 1,298 ✭✭
    Nice pick up. It's a previously cleaned R. 4 die variety - an Overton 105a - the 1814 single leaf variety. It might go VF 20. Congrats. Want to sell it?
    zap1111
    102 capped bust half dollars - 100 die marriages
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