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Has any one actually found a "silver surfer" coin yet?

Has anyone, any where actually found one in circulation yet?image
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    rlawsharlawsha Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭
    Nope, been looking though.
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    notlogicalnotlogical Posts: 2,235
    Me neither. image

    I know the ones I've seen on eBay and stuff are all by people who had them given to them by someone who works for FOX. BUT has anyone seen or heard or read anything about someone ACTUALLY finding one?image
    What Mr. Spock would say about numismatics...
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    notlogicalnotlogical Posts: 2,235
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    What Mr. Spock would say about numismatics...
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    clarkbar04clarkbar04 Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I've never even heard of one.
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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Nope, sorry, haven't heard anything.
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    GRANDAMGRANDAM Posts: 8,785 ✭✭✭✭✭
    OK Samuel,

    Educate me. What is a "silver surfer" coin??? image

    GrandAm image

    Edited to add:

    Amazing what you can find on Google image

    Link to "Silver Surfer" Coin on Google
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    It's pretty dumb to be bidding up these things...
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    LALASD4LALASD4 Posts: 3,602 ✭✭✭
    The U. S. Mint says they are illegal.
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    << <i>The U. S. Mint says they are illegal. >>



    Not to mention really ugly.
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    notlogicalnotlogical Posts: 2,235


    << <i>OK Samuel,

    Educate me. What is a "silver surfer" coin??? image

    GrandAm image

    Edited to add:

    Amazing what you can find on Google image

    Link to "Silver Surfer" Coin on Google >>




    Well, that's about all I know too. I think it's just going to be dumb luck who finds these. And I don't think I'd turn it in for a prize, well, unless the prize was pretty image. image
    What Mr. Spock would say about numismatics...
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    "Live long and prosper"

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    I can't believe people are paying almost $200 for these. We should all be making funny coins and dropping them in the coin machines! imageimage
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    notlogicalnotlogical Posts: 2,235
    Does anyone know if it is a sticker or is it colorized or is the reverse actually altered? image
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    SciotoScioto Posts: 955


    << <i>Does anyone know if it is a sticker or is it colorized or is the reverse actually altered? image >>




    Dang! Scooped by a kid! image


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    notlogicalnotlogical Posts: 2,235


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    Dang! Scooped by a kid! image


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    What Mr. Spock would say about numismatics...
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    "Live long and prosper"

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    stockergreenstockergreen Posts: 483 ✭✭
    You will not find these in circulation.
    If you want one go to Ebay and pay an arm and a leg for one.
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    These have a sticker/decal attached to the back........

    That just killed it for me....

    If it were colorized with paint , I might bite(In finding one, not paying $200 or so). But a decal does nothing for me, too cartoonish...

    Stickers on coins can't bring any real value to a coin,can it? I know of no other coin that has........

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    notlogicalnotlogical Posts: 2,235


    << <i>These have a sticker/decal attached to the back........

    That just killed it for me....

    If it were colorized with paint , I might bite(In finding one, not paying $200 or so). But a decal does nothing for me, too cartoonish...

    Stickers on coins can't bring any real value to a coin,can it? I know of no other coin that has........ >>




    If it was just a sticker why ask the Franklin Mint for help? Couldn't FOX just do a sticker and put it on themselves? image
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    Just a Publicity Stunt at best, putting decals on coins is not illegal unless the intent is fraud...

    If there a Decal I could have 10,000 ready by morning, if I had the inkling but I chose to use my powers for Good and not Evil..."-)

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some people actually do collect old sticker dollars.
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    notlogicalnotlogical Posts: 2,235


    << <i>You will not find these in circulation. >>




    The news story said 800 were distributed in each state. That means just about every person in Wyoming and Montana will get one...doesn't it? image
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    anablepanablep Posts: 5,205 ✭✭✭✭✭
    LOL and North & South Dakota too...
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    droopyddroopyd Posts: 5,381 ✭✭✭
    The few that may have actually been "released in circulation" to make this whole stunt look even remotely legit were probably scooped up immediately by "friends" of the people who dropped them.

    Hell, I haven't even seen a presidential dollar yet, and I'm in one of the few places in the country (NYC) where you actually do have dollar coins being used (albeit sparingly) in commerce.
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    LincolnCentManLincolnCentMan Posts: 5,347 ✭✭✭✭
    The U. S. Mint says they are illegal.

    Where do they say that?

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    CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 34,027 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Some people actually do collect old sticker dollars. >>



    Yes, but those were actually released back into circulation. There seems to be some question as to whether or not more than a token few of the pieces in question were released into circulation at face value, or whether the majority of them were held back for sale on the aftermarket.
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    The great majority of people have no idea what goes on in coins unless AP picks it up. I took my grandson a couple of Washington dollars over the weekend and not only he, but also his parents had never seen one


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    garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    If they want good promo they should put Jessica Alba on the coin not Silver Surfer!

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    SpaceMonkeySpaceMonkey Posts: 3,311


    << <i>If they want good promo they should put Jessica Alba on the coin not Silver Surfer! >>



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    Much better..."-)

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    notlogicalnotlogical Posts: 2,235
    I wonder if ANY got into circulation at all? It looks like they were all given to 20th Century Fox people. image
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    BigDaddyzBigDaddyz Posts: 1,306 ✭✭✭
    anyone know how these were supposedly "distributed" with COA's? I see ebay ads say "with coa"
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    Now remove her shirt please.
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    << <i>Just a Publicity Stunt at best, putting decals on coins is not illegal unless the intent is fraud... >>


    That's what I thought too, and under Title 18 Sec 331, which the mint quotes, we would be right. However under Sec 475, which the mint does NOT mention, it turns out that they ARE illegal.

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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I just heard about these, but have not found one yet.
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    It seems like the few sellers on ebay who have them seem to have multiple ones for sale.

    Such as This Guy who has 7 open auctions for them and 44 closed auctions where he sold them.

    So if they are in circulation, how did he get so many?

    -Fuzz
    Why is it, "A penny for your thoughts," but, "you have to put your two cents in?" Somebody's making a penny.
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    notlogicalnotlogical Posts: 2,235


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    So if they are in circulation, how did he get so many?

    -Fuzz >>




    I'm wondering the same thing. image

    It sounds like the FOX people gave them to retail stores and who ever got them kept them and are selling them on eBay. image
    What Mr. Spock would say about numismatics...
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    << <i>It sounds like the FOX people gave them to retail stores and who ever got them kept them and are selling them on eBay. image >>



    That is basically what I figured. The one guy I pointed out is not the only one who has quite a number of them for sale. So I just assumed that FOX had someone who, rather than circulate them, just kept a bunch.

    While I see the prices are still high, I figure someone is going to make knock offs and there goes the market. I'm not planning on buying any.

    -Fuzz
    Why is it, "A penny for your thoughts," but, "you have to put your two cents in?" Somebody's making a penny.
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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,044 ✭✭✭✭✭
    << If they want good promo they should put Jessica Alba on the coin not Silver Surfer! >>



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    Now that's what I call a promo!image
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,155 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>The U.S. Mint said in a news release Friday that it learned of the promotional quarter this week and advised the studio and The Franklin Mint they were breaking the law. It is illegal to turn a coin into an advertising vehicle, and violators can face a fine. >>

    Ha. Since when? I'd like to see the Mint official who said that point out the exact statute. Maybe there is such a statute, probably new, if it exists. But I have my doubts.

    PS-That would make all those old time "sticker" dollars and countermarked coins illegal. Some of the countermarked Peace dollars, if I remember correctly, were given out at Camp David by gov't officials as diplomatic gifts in the 1970s, if I have my story straight. (I'm sure somebody knows what I am alluding to- the details escape me right now).

    "Sticker" advertising on coins is a concept far older than many of us are. And counterstamped advertising on coins is a tradition that goes back for centuries, if not millennia. Maybe it is illegal, but I strongly doubt it. And even if it were, it is unenforceable. (Except maybe in high-profile cases like this).

    I wouldn't pay more than 50c for one of these things but I say if people wanna use 'em for promos, have at it!

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    << <i>The U.S. Mint said in a news release Friday that it learned of the promotional quarter this week and advised the studio and The Franklin Mint they were breaking the law. It is illegal to turn a coin into an advertising vehicle, and violators can face a fine. >>

    Ha. Since when? I'd like to see the Mint official who said that point out the exact statute. Maybe there is such a statute, probably new, if it exists. But I have my doubts. >>



    18 USC § 475. Imitating obligations or securities; advertisements

    Whoever designs, engraves, prints, makes, or executes, or utters, issues, distributes, circulates, or uses any business or professional card, notice, placard, circular, handbill, or advertisement in the likeness or similitude of any obligation or security of the United States issued under or authorized by any Act of Congress or writes, prints, or otherwise impresses upon or attaches to any such instrument; obligation, or security, or any coin of the United States, any business or professional card, notice, or advertisement, or any notice or advertisement whatever, shall be fined under this title. Nothing in this section applies to evidence of postage payment approved by the United States Postal Service.
    Why is it, "A penny for your thoughts," but, "you have to put your two cents in?" Somebody's making a penny.
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,155 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hmm. Nicely done. That's news to me. How old is the law?

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    << <i>How old is the law? >>




    The law is originally from March 4, 1909 but has had several minor amendments:

    July 16, 1951, added "or attaches to" and "or any coin of the United States,".

    Sept. 13, 1994, substituted "under this title" for "not more than $ 500".

    Jan. 5, 2006, added the sentence beginning "Nothing in this section . . .".


    -Fuzz
    Why is it, "A penny for your thoughts," but, "you have to put your two cents in?" Somebody's making a penny.
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    lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 45,155 ✭✭✭✭✭
    So those old "sticker dollars" were illegal all along, eh? Oh well.

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    No the OLD sticker dollars were not illegal. The portion of the law relating to ads on coins wasn't added until 1951. Most of the sticker dollars are older than that.
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    Now that's a promo! Yeah, baby.
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    If you're gonna post stuff like this at least put it in it's own thread and start the title with "Grandpa, grab the nitros".
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    notlogicalnotlogical Posts: 2,235
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    What Mr. Spock would say about numismatics...
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    notlogicalnotlogical Posts: 2,235
    Has anyone heard anything? I'm starting to wonder if any actually even got into circulation? image
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