When you're buying coins on the BST forum
Bochiman
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does it matter to you who the seller is?
If so, what matters to you?
• Does it matter if they seem to only show up on the BST (ie...they aren't on the coin forums themselves)?
• Does it matter if they have a hidden profile?
• Does it matter how long they have been here?
• Does it matter if they are a business vs an individual? What about a collector vs a wannabe?
• Does it matter how they list (ie....with pics/without pics? Short descriptions? How clear their terms are?)
• Does it matter how they handle themselves when issues arise?
• Is communication a big thing for you or not when you deal with someone? Ie....you pay. Does it matter if the person tells you when it was shipped and gives a tracking number or not? Or, do you just wait?
• Does a return policy matter, or not?
I thought I would ask the question in light of the recent issue on the boards. It got me to thinking what I expect when I buy on ebay vs the BST....and, I am wanting to keep this discussion about the BST, not ebay.
For me, unless I know the person from board interactions, I would be highly hesitant if someone doesn't have their profile on but they are selling. Doubling so if they only seem to hang out on the BST.
I have bought from "newbies" but I do try to be careful there as well.
I prefer pics but if they appear to be above board and descriptive, then I will buy just on a description. I do make sure there is a return policy, for any reason, though.
Whether someone is an individual (collector class) or a business doesn't matter to me but I will definitely hold someone doing it as a business to a higher standard and expectations (in shipping, etc).
If so, what matters to you?
• Does it matter if they seem to only show up on the BST (ie...they aren't on the coin forums themselves)?
• Does it matter if they have a hidden profile?
• Does it matter how long they have been here?
• Does it matter if they are a business vs an individual? What about a collector vs a wannabe?
• Does it matter how they list (ie....with pics/without pics? Short descriptions? How clear their terms are?)
• Does it matter how they handle themselves when issues arise?
• Is communication a big thing for you or not when you deal with someone? Ie....you pay. Does it matter if the person tells you when it was shipped and gives a tracking number or not? Or, do you just wait?
• Does a return policy matter, or not?
I thought I would ask the question in light of the recent issue on the boards. It got me to thinking what I expect when I buy on ebay vs the BST....and, I am wanting to keep this discussion about the BST, not ebay.
For me, unless I know the person from board interactions, I would be highly hesitant if someone doesn't have their profile on but they are selling. Doubling so if they only seem to hang out on the BST.
I have bought from "newbies" but I do try to be careful there as well.
I prefer pics but if they appear to be above board and descriptive, then I will buy just on a description. I do make sure there is a return policy, for any reason, though.
Whether someone is an individual (collector class) or a business doesn't matter to me but I will definitely hold someone doing it as a business to a higher standard and expectations (in shipping, etc).
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
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I fund off-EBAY PP buys with a credit card. If there is a problem,
PP or the credit-card company will help me.
It is important for buyers and sellers on the BST to note:
There is NO buyer/seller protection scheme through PP on
non-EBAY transactions. Under that scheme, PP funds the
relevant guarantees to EBAY members. With off-EBAY
transactions paid via PP, a different set of procedures is
used to solve problems, and PP does not "guarantee"
protection for either the buyer or the seller.
I can get a feel with different conversations/posts on who can be trusted and who can't. Plus, if I'm just not comfortable myself, I ask a couple people also. Chances are they've had some interaction with them in the past.
Overall, I feel good about buying on the BST's
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
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A few months ago, a HUGE fraud was uncovered on another
CU board. A high-post, longtime member burned alot of other
members based on the trust established through "conversations/posts."
Most people on these boards are strangers to each other. We may
think/feel we know each other; we REALLY do not.
<< <i>does it matter to you who the seller is? Yes
If so, what matters to you?
• Does it matter if they seem to only show up on the BST (ie...they aren't on the coin forums themselves)? Yes
• Does it matter if they have a hidden profile? Somewhat
• Does it matter how long they have been here? Yes
• Does it matter if they are a business vs an individual? What about a collector vs a wannabe? No
• Does it matter how they list (ie....with pics/without pics? Short descriptions? How clear their terms are?) Pics are a must
• Does it matter how they handle themselves when issues arise? Yes
• Is communication a big thing for you or not when you deal with someone? Ie....you pay. Does it matter if the person tells you when it was shipped and gives a tracking number or not? Or, do you just wait? Yes, communication is huge
• Does a return policy matter, or not? No returns, no sale >>
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• Does it matter if they seem to only show up on the BST (ie...they aren't on the coin forums themselves)? YES
• Does it matter if they have a hidden profile? NO
• Does it matter how long they have been here? YES
• Does it matter if they are a business vs an individual? What about a collector vs a wannabe? YES
• Does it matter how they list (ie....with pics/without pics? Short descriptions? How clear their terms are?) YES
• Does it matter how they handle themselves when issues arise? YES
• Is communication a big thing for you or not when you deal with someone? Ie....you pay. Does it matter if the person tells you when it was shipped and gives a tracking number or not? YES
• Does a return policy matter, or not? YES
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Actually, I have only visited the BST forum about a dozen times, all with no success. It seems there are too many CU members wanting to buy up all the Busties they can find.
<< <i>"I can get a feel with different conversations/posts on who can be trusted and who can't. "
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A few months ago, a HUGE fraud was uncovered on another
CU board. A high-post, longtime member burned alot of other
members based on the trust established through "conversations/posts."
Most people on these boards are strangers to each other. We may
think/feel we know each other; we REALLY do not. >>
Is that the one "FloridaBill" is talking about?
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
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Positive BST Transactions (buyers and sellers): wondercoin, blu62vette, BAJJERFAN, privatecoin, blu62vette, AlanLastufka, privatecoin
#1 1951 Bowman Los Angeles Rams Team Set
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Positive BST Transactions (buyers and sellers): wondercoin, blu62vette, BAJJERFAN, privatecoin, blu62vette, AlanLastufka, privatecoin
#1 1951 Bowman Los Angeles Rams Team Set
#2 1980 Topps Los Angeles Rams Team Set
#8 (and climbing) 1972 Topps Los Angeles Rams Team Set
All my BST dealings have been satisfactory.
People who only list items there I avoid.
Payment method doesn't trouble me.
I'll even do yardwork if I want the coin bad enough
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When in doubt I will PM the people I know and trust and get advice.
Every experience has turned out excellent. jws
AL
It is not complicated, this is a forum and most on it are honest, however it is best not to let that fact negate the right way to do Buss over the internet.
JMO
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<< does it matter to you who the seller is? Yes
If so, what matters to you?
• Does it matter if they seem to only show up on the BST (ie...they aren't on the coin forums themselves)? Yes
• Does it matter if they have a hidden profile? Somewhat
• Does it matter how long they have been here? Yes
• Does it matter if they are a business vs an individual? What about a collector vs a wannabe? No
• Does it matter how they list (ie....with pics/without pics? Short descriptions? How clear their terms are?) Pics are a must
• Does it matter how they handle themselves when issues arise? Yes
• Is communication a big thing for you or not when you deal with someone? Ie....you pay. Does it matter if the person tells you when it was shipped and gives a tracking number or not? Or, do you just wait? Yes, communication is huge
• Does a return policy matter, or not? No returns, no sale >>
Occasionally I list coins available for sale on the BST boards. Relatively speaking the sales generated from the BST listings are a very tiny fraction of my weekly total sales. For the most part the people I have interacted with from the BST boards have been relatively pleasant and straight foward to deal with although there are a few board members who are known to me for being notoriously slow on payment or who try to beat down on your prices. Those folks are the ones whose requests are considered last when there are more than one person interested in the same item.
As evidenced on my BST post from today, then there are always a few people who go out of their way to be difficult or who attempt to pull a fast one on you then spew contempt at you when you call them out on it. Check out the fourth post on my thread here and my subsequent response. I guess you can't expect everybody to have common sense.
Authorized dealer for PCGS, PCGS Currency, NGC, NCS, PMG, CAC. Member of the PNG, ANA. Member dealer of CoinPlex and CCE/FACTS as "CH5"
Spammers and folks who only use the BST to sell I try to avoid like the plague.
I've had all good experiences on the BST....Both buying and selling
Len
"La Vostra Nonna Ha Faccia Del Fungo"
• Does it matter if they seem to only show up on the BST (ie...they aren't on the coin forums themselves)? No.
• Does it matter if they have a hidden profile? No.
• Does it matter how long they have been here? Maybe.
• Does it matter if they are a business vs an individual? No. What about a collector vs a wannabe? No.
• Does it matter how they list (ie....with pics/without pics? Short descriptions? How clear their terms are?) They should have pics or at least a good description.
• Does it matter how they handle themselves when issues arise? Yes.
• Is communication a big thing for you or not when you deal with someone? Ie....you pay. Does it matter if the person tells you when it was shipped and gives a tracking number or not? Or, do you just wait? Communication is the most important thing to me. I would like to be imformed when they receive my $$$ and when the item has shipped. I then tell them when I receive the goods.
• Does a return policy matter, or not? Yes.