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Would a circulating $2 coin work?

flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
We all know that we can't get a circulating dollar coin, mostly because the government will not discontinue the rag-buck.

So how about a $2 coin? There's no appreciable "installed base" of $2 bills to bump off. Perhaps a circulating $2 coin could leapfrog the $1 coin and become a vital institute of commerce.

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    cladkingcladking Posts: 29,943 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The penny needs to go the way of other fossils first probably.
    tempus fugit extra philosophiam.
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,456 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Only if China (and other countries) stops buying US debt and the BEP needs to engage in some ragbuck cost cutting. Otherwise, no.
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    I've always thought that the dollar coins were a waste. We have a dollar bill, and it's easier on the pockets that a heavy coin. However, a two or three dollar coin would be quite useful as you might be able to buy a cup of coffee with it.
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    ccmorganccmorgan Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭
    $2 bill,$1 coin,$2 coins can't see it happening. Registers aren't equipped for any of the above.
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    UtahCoinUtahCoin Posts: 5,366 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I would wager a $5 coin might be more accepted than a $2.
    But who knows...
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    flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>$2 bill,$1 coin,$2 coins can't see it happening. Registers aren't equipped for any of the above. >>

    Not true. Most registers have five coin and five bill slots. The coin slots are used for 1c, 5c, 10c, 25c, and ??? what? Usually paperclips or other detritus.

    << <i>I would wager a $5 coin might be more accepted than a $2. >>

    The $5 coin suffers from the same problem as the $1 coin -- an installed base of paper. $2 bills are still a curiousity, and there might be an open niche for a circulating $2 coin. At least, that's my hypothesis.
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    ccmorganccmorgan Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭
    Yes and the "spare" slot is used for rolls of change,bundles of singles and checks ect. So there is no room.
    Love the 1885-CC Morgan
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    flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes and the "spare" slot is used for rolls of change,bundles of singles and checks ect. So there is no room. >>

    The only reason those slots are used for that stuff is because nothing else has been supplied for it. Given the choice between "empty" and "stuff", "stuff" will always prevail. However, just because "stuff" is in there doesn't mean that "stuff" should be in there.

    So there is room.
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    Keep your hands off of my $2 bills! I have 96 of them on me as we speak. Lovely design, always clean, and useful denomination.
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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,272 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>We all know that we can't get a circulating dollar coin, mostly because the government will not discontinue the rag-buck.
    . >>



    Well, once Ted K. finally dies from cirrois of the liver, then we should kill the $1 bill, and have BOTH $1 and $2 (and maybe even $5) coins.
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    flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Keep your hands off of my $2 bills! I have 96 of them on me as we speak. Lovely design, always clean, and useful denomination. >>

    There's one in every crowd image
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    I think a $2 and $1 coin would be great! The only way they would work is if we stop printing dollar bills. I don't think a $1 bill along with a $2 coin work, people would rather have 2 bills than one coin.
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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    The paper dollar would need to be eliminated before dollar coins or $2 coins will circulate.
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    sbeverlysbeverly Posts: 964 ✭✭✭

    I would like to see a $2 as well as a $5 coin.
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    ccmorganccmorgan Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭


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    << <i>Yes and the "spare" slot is used for rolls of change,bundles of singles and checks ect. So there is no room. >>

    The only reason those slots are used for that stuff is because nothing else has been supplied for it. Given the choice between "empty" and "stuff", "stuff" will always prevail. However, just because "stuff" is in there doesn't mean that "stuff" should be in there.

    So there is room. >>



    As long as you don't mind waiting in line even longer for the cashier to go get another roll of nickles to give you change. Money has to stay locked up so it's not like "the cashier" can make room by keeping that "stuff" in his/her pocket. LOL
    Love the 1885-CC Morgan
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    flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>As long as you don't mind waiting in line even longer for the cashier to go get another roll of nickles to give you change. Money has to stay locked up so it's not like "the cashier" can make room by keeping that "stuff" in his/her pocket. LOL >>

    The whole reason the cashiers need to keep rolls of coins easily on hand is because no one spends them. This is just another bit of evidence that our current coinage system does not work. If we had a vibrant working coinage system, cashiers would take in about the same number of coins as they dish out, and there would be no need to keep rolls on hand.

    LOL.
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,456 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Well, once Ted K. finally dies from cirrois of the liver, then we should kill the $1 bill, and have BOTH $1 and $2 (and maybe even $5) coins. >>

    It probably won't matter unless someone takes it upon himself to restart the lobbying effort by CoinCoalition.org. Absent that, talking here isn't going to help, even after Ted K. has passed.
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    I vote no... just like the 20 cent piece, a 2 dollar piece would be redundant. All you really need is a 10 cent piece, 50 cent piece, one dollar piece, and 5 dollar piece. Any more then that and it just becomes cumbersome to try and sort and recognize them all.

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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,012 ✭✭✭✭✭
    How about a four dollar coin for one gallon of gas ?
    Oh, and a forever stamp to go.
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    nahhh.................... I'm cool with the bills >>>
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    fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    The only way the coins work is when we stop making paper.

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    The Loonie ($1) and Toonie ($2) work just fine for our northern neighbors,
    don't know why they could'nt or can't make it here.
    Keith
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    aficionadoaficionado Posts: 2,309 ✭✭✭

    Why would anyone want to carry around $2 coins????

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    ziggy29ziggy29 Posts: 18,669 ✭✭✭


    << <i>The Loonie ($1) and Toonie ($2) work just fine for our northern neighbors,
    don't know why they could'nt or can't make it here. >>

    It worked because Canada did it the right way and eliminated the $1 bill.
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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,047 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Canada has a $2 coin that is reasonably successful, even moreso than their $1 coin.
    Personally, I don't like small denimination paper. It is far easier for me to reach into
    my pocket and pull out 4 dollar coins than to open my wallet and pull out 4 dollar bills.
    And when using coins, I don't have to show everyone nearby the contents of my wallet !
    If cashiers would ever figure out how much easier it is to pull 4 coins out of the till instead
    of 4 raggedy bills, they'd be in favor of the coin too.

    I've heard the story about Ted Kennedy's family ownership of the Crane paper
    (the company that supplies the paper for US currency) and the theory that Crane
    wouldn't want to lose the business if dollar bills were no longer printed.
    That may be true, but it is just a smokescreen for the REAL reason the dollar bill
    isn't discontinued.

    Once you realize that the dollar coin and the dollar bill are issued by two completely different
    (competing) interests, it all makes sense. The corporate-owned Federal Reserve bank ("Fed")
    issues all paper currency (and digital credits), while the government-owned Mint issues the
    dollar coins. The Fed does not want to lose the priviledge (and the benefits to them) from
    issuing dollars bills.

    Last year there was a bill in Congress to turn over control of the US Mint to the
    corporate-owned Federal Reserve bank. That bill did not pass, but if it had, we probably
    would have seen the dollar bill be discontinued in short order. And the supposedly
    largest-in-the-world gold reserves, which the US Mint is the custodian of, would have
    come under the control of the Federal Reserve Bank.
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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,047 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Here is my $2 concept coin:

    image
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    OverdateOverdate Posts: 7,314 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How about a four dollar coin for one gallon of gas ?
    Oh, and a forever stamp to go.


    Better yet, how about a "forever" coin good for one gallon of gas? image

    I think it's a really slick idea!


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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    Do countries generally issue bi-metallic $1 and $2 coins? I like the look of those.
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    Didn't wanna get me no trade
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    19Lyds19Lyds Posts: 26,503 ✭✭✭✭
    Nope! We already have a circulating $2 bill and you never see those so a $2 coin would never work.

    For coinage, people will always prefer the folders over the coins so until the folders go away, any dollar coinage regardless of denomination is just wasted production.
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    dcarrdcarr Posts: 10,047 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>For coinage, people will always prefer the folders over the coins so until the folders go away, any dollar coinage regardless of denomination is just wasted production. >>



    I, for one, do NOT prefer the "folders" over coins.
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    flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>For coinage, people will always prefer the folders over the coins so until the folders go away, any dollar coinage regardless of denomination is just wasted production. >>

    I, for one, do NOT prefer the "folders" over coins. >>

    Nor I. For small denomination purchases (cup o' joe, for example), coins kick all over bills.

    I suspect that many of the anti large denomination coin folk have not spent an appreciable amount of time traveling in countries where such coins are commonplace. Go to Britain, Canada, Japan, or euro-land and see the coins in action. Once one gets over their ingrained desire to dump their change in a bucket at the end of the day, one finds that the big coins make day-to-day life much easier.
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    ccmorganccmorgan Posts: 1,232 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Here is my $2 concept coin:

    image
    image >>



    Now that gets my vote....sweeeet!!!
    Only one problem everyone would keep them thus no one spending them.image
    Love the 1885-CC Morgan
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    WaterSportWaterSport Posts: 7,035 ✭✭✭✭✭
    NUMEROUS Countries have HAD $2 coins and $5 coins. And yes, bimetal coins as well. Politics and lobbyist, neither in the public’s interest have prevented the Great US from moving forward on this issue. I hope every %$#@ coin gets more exspenvsive make so sort Good change (no pun intended) comes out from the chaos.

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    kwmorgankwmorgan Posts: 967
    A $2 coin would work if it were brought in along with a $1 coin. The elimination of $1 and $2 notes (at the same time) would guarantee much wider circulation of the coins. A $2 coin should be smaller than the $1 coin. Same brass as the $1 coin and about the size of an old $5 gold piece. Or a small bimetallic coin would be cool too. I like DCARR's design.

    The Treasury Dept needs to merge the US Mint and the BEP. That would help end the stalemate over a $1 bill vs $1 coin. It is mostly a turf war between these two branch departments of the Treasury.
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    slothman2000slothman2000 Posts: 953 ✭✭✭
    two-ner
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