Shouldn't buy ad's also include the price you're willing to pay

cardbender · May 8, 2007 3:02PM

Just curious why many here never post the amount they're willing to pay for certain card(s) they supposedly want to buy? Any reasons for this? Just wondering why......

Publius · May 8, 2007 3:16PM

Always keep your cards close to your chest.

digicat · May 8, 2007 3:24PM

Folks like to negotiate.

storm888 · May 8, 2007 4:58PM

To paraphrase Yogi:

Both buyers and sellers like to be the last to go first.

The CU boards are one of the few places where this fact is
so often deemed incorrect; by both buyers and sellers.

perkdog · May 9, 2007 6:37AM

I have and got quick results. There was a card I wanted and I stated in my thread I would pay $100 over book and got a deal done in less than 2 days. Why mess around? That was my thought process, but for the most part its better to see what someone is looking to sell for IMO.

Xtrainningscards · May 9, 2007 9:21AM

Agree even more so with sale posts, tired of seeing best offer, I set up at shows, and always tell a customer my price, and feel anyone selling should be the same way.

dontippet · May 9, 2007 9:26AM

That's one reason I like NAXCOM. If you go with one of the buy offers, you know exactly how much you are going to get for your card.

bakerbear · May 10, 2007 11:30PM

I really don't think it's an attempt to manipulate as it is to see what a card can bring. I think in my case, I don't go to card shows and only look at a Beckett as a sort of guide to expect what a card may bring. I really don't want to feel as if I have a card that has some value to it yet get nothing close to its worth because I would not know a price to ask for. But I guess it really boils down to is do you get what you want out of the card. If you have a 200 dollar card that you sell for 50 bucks and are happy with the 50, I guess you should be happy that you made a deal that works for you.
One more thing that I really love though is when somebody says they are so tired of seeing no prices being asked for a card, yet they will PM you an offer that they know is lowball so they can flip it for more money. Now that is classy.

cardbender · May 11, 2007 11:51AM

I guess the reason I asked the question was I see a lot of WTB threads but no responses to them. If a buyer stated what they're willing to pay to own certain cards they're looking for, then I'm sure many sellers would pm them or post on the thread they have the card available. It would just make for more trades/exchanges.

It's like going to a card show and walking up to a table with ton's of nice cards displayed with no prices. It's pain from my perspective to have to engage the seller, if you can even get their attention, to have to ask what they want for certain cards in their cases. I end up looking for a few seconds at the nice cards, then end up walking away to another table where the cards are priced for sale. The other seller lost the potential sale by being pretty much lazy and not pricing their goods.

I feel it's somewhat the same with buyers posting 'wanted to buy' with no prices they're willing to pay. I don't know, maybe it's just me. I hate negotiating. I like to see a sellers bottomline price and that's it. Either you pull the trigger or walk away.

Rich

bakerbear · May 12, 2007 12:01AM

cardbender, i think you make some really valid points with what you say. i also hate the negotiating aspect of that sort of thing. if you see a card priced at an amount you would be willing to pay, it probably is going to interest you more than having to guess at what a price.
I know in my case though, I have a hard time with knowing what a "fair" price is. i suppose it is all relative. I can give you two examples of what I mean.
I had three 2007 Heitage autographs for sale asking for an offer. I had looked at a Beckett and got what I thought was a fair market value from a very nice person here after very little negotiating- it was a very nice deal for both of us I felt, because I had received a fair price for the cards (IMHO) and i think the buyer got a good deal as well.
In the other instance, I have a Tom Gordon topps 2007 all star jersey letter card for sale that is a 1/1. There really is no reference to this kind of card in Beckett, just some reported sales. So for me who is a realative novice at dealing with these sorts of things, I'm not quite sure what kind of price I would like to have for it. I do know that I had one person make an offer for it that was really a very low offer (and I know I have a Tom Gordon card, not an Albert Pujols or a Derek Jeter so it obviously has less worth) and I didn't think that was a fair offer (even as the person told me that he didn't neccessarily need the card or want the card...don't you just love that). Now obviously, it isn't my business what a person does with the card after they bought it because in theory, you got what you asked for from the card when you sold it; it is theirs now, and if they make twice the money off of it than you did, well that's the way it goes. i guess in the end, no one wants to feel like they were taken in situations and maybe that's why there aren't so many listed prices.
Sorry boys, started to ramble. I'll stop now. thanks.

nam812 · May 12, 2007 12:15AM

<< <i>I hate negotiating. I like to see a sellers bottomline price and that's it. Either you pull the trigger or walk away. >>

You mean you've never asked a dealer at a show if he could do better than the price listed on the card? If that's the case, and you are on the east coast, may I PM you a listing of all the shows I will be doing in the next few months?

cardbender · May 12, 2007 5:38AM

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<< <i>I hate negotiating. I like to see a sellers bottomline price and that's it. Either you pull the trigger or walk away. >>

You mean you've never asked a dealer at a show if he could do better than the price listed on the card? If that's the case, and you are on the east coast, may I PM you a listing of all the shows I will be doing in the next few months?

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If your asking price is fair in my opinion, then no I wouldn't ask for a better deal/discount. I'm being bluntly honest here. I know what I want to pay for the cards I'm buying. If I feel the asking price is too high according to what I've seen other cards with the same grade/condition sell for, then yes I would possibly ask for a slightly better deal, or choose to just walk away to another table. I would rather not haggle at all.

I run an ebay store and I pretty much have all my cards priced competively with what I think is a reasonable sell price for that particular card and grade. I watch the market closely. I don't try to gouge buyers like some ebay stores do. So I typically rebuff most offers as I know I'm already within a reasonable sell price for the card I'm offering. I would expect others to have their cards priced accordingly, but obviously many don't.

So yeah, I imagine a lot of East Coast sellers might love me. The fact that I'm wiling to pay 'their price'. However if they all have their cards boosted up 25% for the haggle factor, then I might go home with all my money in my pocket. Not making the sale is their loss. I always figure there's other cards to buy, other shows to attend, ebay, other websites, etc... There's nothing I have to overpay for to own. Or better yet, haggle over.

It's the same when I go to buy a new car. I research it and know what I can afford to pay and what I'm willing to pay. I have cash in hand or financing already set up. The deal is usually done within 30 minutes. I'm a seller's dream I guess.

cardbender · May 12, 2007 5:40AM

Bakerbear,
Good points. On some newer cards I can see where the prices reached are more difficult to determine based on the lack of previous sales for that item. So I guess in those instances negotiating is expected from both parties. So long as a fair deal is reached it's a win/win.

Rich

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