<< <i>Nice size cud. It's a retained cud, right? >>
Steve Crain and Glenn Peterson defined full cud as the area on a struck coin outlined by a die break where the broken piece of the die has completely separated from the rest of the die, and therefore imparts no impression on the struck coin (John Reich Journal, Vol 16, Issue 2, Feb 2005).
Using that definition, you are 100% correct: this is a retained cud as one can see light impressions of the letters of UNITED despite the cud.
Steve Crain and Glenn Peterson defined full cud as the area on a struck coin outlined by a die break where the broken piece of the die has completely separated from the rest of the die, and therefore imparts no impression on the struck coin (John Reich Journal, Vol 16, Issue 2, Feb 2005).
Using that definition, you are 100% correct: this is a retained cud as one can see light impressions of the letters of UNITED despite the cud. >>
Reverse cuds are often not true cuds. Since the reverse die is within the close collar the broken piece usually can not get away and merely drops down wedging between the die and the collar. (On pieces struck with an open collar of course the retained cud is rare because the open collar is far enough way that the piece of the die is able to fall away easily.) Retained obv cuds on the other hand are very rare because the broken piece of the die can just fall away.
<< <i>Wow. That's a helluva cud. Cool enough coin without it, but with it- awesome.
Isn't '33 the key date in those? I forget. (Edit- nope, I guess I was thinking of the 1832).
Neat little coin! >>
with only nine dates in the capped bust half dime series (1829 to 1837), there really are no "key" dates -- inasmuch as the term is applied to other series. The lowest mintage was for 1837, when "only" 871,000 were reported minted. Anyone could have a "complete set" by date with ten minutes of time on ebay. Assembling a higher grade set (AU) might take a week on ebay. Assembling a mint state set of nine coins could be done in much less than a year. Assembling a complete set by die marriage and remarriage (even without regard to grade!) may take a lifetime or two...that's the real challenge with the baby busties.
The pictured coin is the plate coin from the Logan and McCloskey text "Federal Half Dimes 1792-1837" (see page 234). The coin is one of maybe five or six known examples of the 1833 LM-3.5 die remarriage with the cud. It was one of five die marriages/remarriages that my collection lacked...now I lack just four.
<< <i>with only nine dates in the capped bust half dime series (1829 to 1837), there really are no "key" dates. >>
Yeah, I know. I forgot to put the word "key" in quotation marks like you did. Still, I was thinking it was one of the lower mintage dates, but I was mistaken.
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<< <i>Nice size cud. It's a retained cud, right? >>
Steve Crain and Glenn Peterson defined full cud as the area on a struck coin outlined by a die break where the broken piece of the die has completely separated from the rest of the die, and therefore imparts no impression on the struck coin (John Reich Journal, Vol 16, Issue 2, Feb 2005).
Using that definition, you are 100% correct: this is a retained cud as one can see light impressions of the letters of UNITED despite the cud.
<< <i><< Nice size cud. It's a retained cud, right? >>
Steve Crain and Glenn Peterson defined full cud as the area on a struck coin outlined by a die break where the broken piece of the die has completely separated from the rest of the die, and therefore imparts no impression on the struck coin (John Reich Journal, Vol 16, Issue 2, Feb 2005).
Using that definition, you are 100% correct: this is a retained cud as one can see light impressions of the letters of UNITED despite the cud. >>
Both forms are cool, though.
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Isn't '33 the key date in those? I forget. (Edit- nope, I guess I was thinking of the 1832).
Neat little coin!
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<< <i>Wow. That's a helluva cud. Cool enough coin without it, but with it- awesome.
Isn't '33 the key date in those? I forget. (Edit- nope, I guess I was thinking of the 1832).
Neat little coin! >>
with only nine dates in the capped bust half dime series (1829 to 1837), there really are no "key" dates -- inasmuch as the term is applied to other series. The lowest mintage was for 1837, when "only" 871,000 were reported minted. Anyone could have a "complete set" by date with ten minutes of time on ebay. Assembling a higher grade set (AU) might take a week on ebay. Assembling a mint state set of nine coins could be done in much less than a year. Assembling a complete set by die marriage and remarriage (even without regard to grade!) may take a lifetime or two...that's the real challenge with the baby busties.
The pictured coin is the plate coin from the Logan and McCloskey text "Federal Half Dimes 1792-1837" (see page 234). The coin is one of maybe five or six known examples of the 1833 LM-3.5 die remarriage with the cud. It was one of five die marriages/remarriages that my collection lacked...now I lack just four.
<< <i>with only nine dates in the capped bust half dime series (1829 to 1837), there really are no "key" dates. >>
Yeah, I know. I forgot to put the word "key" in quotation marks like you did. Still, I was thinking it was one of the lower mintage dates, but I was mistaken.
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