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Poll: The Market Acceptability Quotient™ (MAQ)

mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
All this talk of toning got me thinking (not always a good thing). Toning and the appearance of "good" toning versus "bad" toning falls into a continuum. Every toned coin should be able to be put into that continuum as: " I'm 70% sure that this coin has "good" toning." Every coin and type of toning will have it place in the continuum. With enough people chiming in you should be able to get an average % - thus the MAQ.

Within that continuum also lies everybody's comfort levels for buying coins. Maybe I am confortable with a 50% coin while you may only be comfortable with 90% coins.

Where does this coin lie? I'm just curious what other think.

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  • ShamikaShamika Posts: 18,785 ✭✭✭✭
    Whether or not it's NT is the real question. But to me, there's little doubt that it's Market Acceptable™.
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Use 100% (which I don't give you as an answer) as "I'm positive that this coin is naturally toned or "good" toning.
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  • zeus135zeus135 Posts: 1,043
    Seems first we have to define "good" toning, or "naturally" toned. I've seen a few different definitions of NT.
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    definition of "good": Equivalent to your own personal definition of NT.
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  • DesertRatDesertRat Posts: 1,791
    Any coin can be considered to have 100% MAQ to the right person or group of people, just as easily as it could have 0% to another.

    It's a very subjective topic.
  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    With a large enough sample the individual vote won't matter.
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  • I like your idea, it's the only real approach I've seen offered to attempt to qualify a coin's "toniness".
    Maybe the terminology could be tweaked a bit.
    While I think that Morgan's probably NT, I don't like the look of it so much and wouldn't call it 'good'.
    But I think you're on to something..
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Alternatively, since I invented the quotient, I get to decide what they are for each coin. It doesn't really matter in that you can have you own setpoint within the continuum when buying coins.
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Could be another grade to apply to the coins. Think of all of the regrades.... "It's a PCGS MS64 MAQ72."
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    No more bodybags for "questionable color", just a low MAQ.
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  • Grading is itself subjective, but grading standards should be more static than a MAQ.
    The MAQ would probably be more useful just on the forum as tastes for toning are more cyclical.
    It's something to think about.
    How about a smaller range (say 1-10)?
    A hundred point spread is probaby unnecessary for what is basically a 'yes' or 'no' question.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,876 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Put me down for 99%. Ninety-nine percent market-acceptable toning to me.

    Not necessarily 99% eye appealing to me, but not bad, either- I would give it seventy-some percent there, I suppose.

    I think people are just a little TOO paranoid about toning these days. I mean, sure, it pays to be vigilant, but c'mon- if it looks nice and it was nice enough for PCGS not to bag it, why not? Who cares, when you get right down to it?

    Well, okay, a LOT of people care. Even I do- but not that strenuously.

    I'm plunging into ancient Roman coins now. I gotta tell you, it is refreshing to play in a field where old cleaning is not a taboo- where it is the norm rather than the exception. After all, probably 99% of the ancient coins out there in the market have been cleaned at some point since they came out of the ground. At least in the silver.

    Nice patina is prized in ancient coins, but from what I can see, it's all about the look, and people don't take a microscope to it to question its "originality" as much. Unless something looks harshly cleaned or unnatural in some way, it's acceptable.

    At least to me. I don't lose too much sleep over it. Original is best, of course, but I think folks need to lighten up just a tiny bit in their scrutiny. JMHO- I am sure many will disagree, perhaps rightly so.

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  • LeeGLeeG Posts: 12,162
    I'm a 99% vote.
  • garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    I know of no way to AT only one side of a slabbed coin, so I would say this is NT'd
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I like the percentage idea, and I give this coin a questionable 20% as in I'm 80% sure someone once thought,

    "here's a dollar with a nice reverse, let's tone up the obverse and try to gain a point or two"

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  • I like the clashing going on in this coin- that would be one to check out with the Vammers.

    I'm at 90%- always room for human judgement and KOOL AID parties on Friday.

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