The Oklahoma State Quarter?

penny2many · April 26, 2007 10:38PM

The mint has decided to take the Pioneer Woman's Bible out of her hand! We have a famous statue in Ponca City named the Pioneer Woman and she has her son by the hand and her Bible in the other. She has been chosen to apper on all the examples but one and now they have taken her Bible out of it. This is the mint not the state of Oklahoma. We want it. They said no symbols of religion but it has " In God We Trust " on the quarters. Same thing to me. How about you?

Carolyn

persaus · April 26, 2007 10:55PM

They should have just went with the design of the Oil Fields.

BRdude · April 26, 2007 10:56PM

Political Correctness makes me ill

StrikeOutXXX · April 26, 2007 11:05PM

Did they pick the final winner yet? On the proposed designs, you can see a "Book" under her arm in a few, it doesn't say "Holy Bible", but I would assume it is implied. Have they changed from these proposals just recently?

Oklahoma 5 finalists for state quarter pictures

OKbustchaser · April 26, 2007 11:16PM

<< The mint has decided to take the Pioneer Woman's Bible out of her hand! We have a famous statue in Ponca City named the Pioneer Woman and she has her son by the hand and her Bible in the other. She has been chosen to apper on all the examples but one and now they have taken her Bible out of it. This is the mint not the state of Oklahoma. We want it. They said no symbols of religion but it has " In God We Trust " on the quarters. Same thing to me. How about you?

Carolyn >>

No, we don't want it. You want it. There is a difference. That said, I don't particularly want ANY of the finalists--especially any of the ones featuring the Pioneer Woman.

penny2many · April 26, 2007 11:22PM

Today is the last day we can vote at www.gov.ok.gov/coin.php I chose the 1st one but we are so much more. We were Indian territiry first. We have cattle, wheat, oil and other things that make this state great. It is true you can not see the word bible but it is seen in the statue in Ponca City. The 1st and the last is the better depiction of the statue and if I had my way we would not have had it on there but of course the one I wanted was not choosen for the finalist. The thing I am really adimit about is having something about the indian history on it. Most of the Okies are at least a small part indian. Well, I have ranted enough I guess and I am sure there is nothing to be done. I just don't think they should change something that is on the statue . If they are going to do that just give us our state bird.

BRdude · April 26, 2007 11:28PM

<< No, we don't want it. You want it. There is a difference. That said, I don't particularly want ANY of the finalists--especially any of the ones featuring the Pioneer Woman. >>

So you speak for the entire state huh bustchaser??? Would you like to make a bet which would win if a poll were taken??? Hmmmm????? Us Okies are a fiercely independant type, and right in the heart of the BIBLE BELT. You don't doubt THAT do you bustchaser????

penny2many · April 26, 2007 11:40PM

I didn't mean to cause a fuss between Okies. I think if they were going to have people on it, then it should have been familes. That is what was in the land run. Not just women and children. It was also many different religions and some with no religion. But if you are going to use a symbol like the Pioneer Woman do it right!.

Connecticoin · April 26, 2007 11:49PM

If it were a finalist, a design with an "OU" football helmet would win.

BRdude · April 27, 2007 12:00AM

Or the one with the "house divided" with OU at the top and OSU on the bottom

ttown · April 27, 2007 12:11AM

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<< No, we don't want it. You want it. There is a difference. That said, I don't particularly want ANY of the finalists--especially any of the ones featuring the Pioneer Woman. >>

So you speak for the entire state huh bustchaser??? Would you like to make a bet which would win if a poll were taken??? Hmmmm????? Us Okies are a fiercely independant type, and right in the heart of the BIBLE BELT. You don't doubt THAT do you bustchaser????

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I agree if your going to put the Pioneer Woman statue it should be correct. I really don't care for any of the designs but that's just plain stupid since it could be a school book. There shouldn't be any fight over rather "God" should be included on our money.

Cladiator · April 27, 2007 12:12AM

Typical and not surprising.

OKbustchaser · April 27, 2007 1:35AM

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<< No, we don't want it. You want it. There is a difference. That said, I don't particularly want ANY of the finalists--especially any of the ones featuring the Pioneer Woman. >>

So you speak for the entire state huh bustchaser??? Would you like to make a bet which would win if a poll were taken??? Hmmmm????? Us Okies are a fiercely independant type, and right in the heart of the BIBLE BELT. You don't doubt THAT do you bustchaser????

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No, I don't claim to speak for the entire state. Nor does Carolyn, however (nor do you, for that matter). Therefore the totally inclusive "we" is incorrect. That is part and parcel of being a "fiercely independant type."

Zoins · April 27, 2007 1:42AM

How about this proposal?

BRdude · April 27, 2007 5:22AM

<< No, I don't claim to speak for the entire state. Nor does Carolyn, however (nor do you, for that matter). Therefore the totally inclusive "we" is incorrect. That is part and parcel of being a "fiercely independant type." >>

Yes, this is true, but you didn't answer the question on how you think it would go in a popular vote

THAT is where (I believe) "we" would become in fact, a fact

enough about that

I don't particularly care for most of the proposals myself, but any are better than some, like Texas....Yuk

flaminio · April 27, 2007 5:26AM

I like the one with the birdie. It seems to me that going with the Pioneer Woman is a bit of an affront to this troubled territory, what with its "trail of tears" history. The birdie is attractive, and politically neutral.

topstuf · April 27, 2007 5:28AM

I'd like the whole Joad family.

flaminio · April 27, 2007 5:30AM

You still have a few more hours to vote for the OK quarter...

BRdude · April 27, 2007 5:34AM

<< going with the Pioneer Woman is a bit of an affront to this troubled territory, what with its "trail of tears" history. >>

Do you even know the history of the trail of tears??? Starting and ending points even??? null
So, as you see, Oklahoma wasn't even a state. What happenend came straight from Washington, and across 4 other states. Hence, since this is a "statehood" quarter I don't think the trail of tears is relevant, but I believe Oklahoma should honor their Indian tribes and culturs in one way or the other on the coin.

flaminio · April 27, 2007 5:45AM

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<< going with the Pioneer Woman is a bit of an affront to this troubled territory, what with its "trail of tears" history. >>

Do you even know the history of the trail of tears??? Starting and ending points even??? This "troubled territory" isn't the only one with some less than favorable history to it. >>

I understand your point, albeit not your overuse of question marks. We're talking just of Oklahoma, and not all of the various aspects of the "trail of tears".

Here's one early (rejected) design that reflected Oklahoma's role in this:

BRdude · April 27, 2007 5:51AM

That design is famous and has NOTHING to do with the trail of tears.

CaptHenway · April 27, 2007 6:04AM

Remember a few years back when the Mint changed the ground rules because of the stupid flap over the Missouri quarter? The governors no longer submit pictures, they submit verbal descriptions and the Mint's engravers create designs from the verbal descriptions.
Read the verbal descriptions. None of them mention the bible in the Pioneer Woman's arm.
TD

flaminio · April 27, 2007 6:06AM

<< I believe Oklahoma should honor their Indian tribes and culturs in one way or the other on the coin. >>

And how do the various proposed "Pioneer Woman" motifs do this?

If you'll calm down for a second, I think you'll find that we're on the same side. There are five proposed designs; four of them depict the Pioneer Woman. Two of them have an Indian "peace pipe" on them, with the Pioneer Woman trodding in front of it. This I consider to be somewhat of an afront to the Indian peoples.

Again, I prefer the birdie design because it is (a) attractive, and (b) politically neutral.

Zoins · April 27, 2007 6:08AM

I think the Oklahoma SHQ should have bison on it

razzle · April 27, 2007 6:09AM

In an attempt at humor, not having seen the proposed designs, with Oklahoma, I think of either:

1.a Beverly Hillbillies style overflowing pick-up truck

2. a matte finish ( sandblasted ) pic of a tornado, incused with a surrounding cloud of dust.

All that silliness notwithstanding, if there were a single symbol which represented the essence of the character of this great country, the Okie coin should have it.

raz

BRdude · April 27, 2007 6:13AM

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Sorry to get excited

here is the history of the pic you posted. It is called "End of the Trail" not for the trail of tears, but the trail the American Indian had to cross to get to the 20th century and his weriness at completion (or somehting along that order, you can read it

I was just defending Oklahoma because we had nothing to do with the trial of tears.

, or no more than Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, or Arkansas.

Ok, I'm thru ranting

CaptHenway · April 27, 2007 6:15AM

<< I think the Oklahoma SHQ should have bison on it

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And a salmon!

Zoins · April 27, 2007 6:20AM

<< I was just defending Oklahoma because we had nothing to do with the trial of tears., or no more than Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, or Arkansas. >>

Don't forget that one major reason for the Trail of Tears is Dahlonega gold and Georgia has a state outline and peach on their SHQ

OKbustchaser · April 27, 2007 6:22AM

Personally, I think mistletoe...What other state has a poisonous parasite as its state flower?

Cladiator · April 27, 2007 6:24AM

The OK quarter should be blank. Cause there ain't nothing there and there's nothing to do there

flaminio · April 27, 2007 6:30AM

<< Personally, I think mistletoe. >>

Only if I'm permitted to smooch chyks by holding an OK quarter over their head...

Zoins · April 27, 2007 6:31AM

The Pioneer Woman statue seems to be the OK version of NY's Statue of Liberty and Hawaii's King Kamehameha I statue. Just in case people haven't seen the Pioneer Woman statue, here's a photo:

You can read about it at the Pioneer Woman Museum.

ONETHREE · April 27, 2007 6:41AM

I would have liked to have seen the "end of the trail" as the design. James Fraser's design is poignant, and pays homage to the end of a way of life. Oh well, I guees I am suprised they put his design on gold bullion in this day and age.

Link about Fraser

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<< going with the Pioneer Woman is a bit of an affront to this troubled territory, what with its "trail of tears" history. >>

Do you even know the history of the trail of tears??? Starting and ending points even??? This "troubled territory" isn't the only one with some less than favorable history to it. >>

I understand your point, albeit not your overuse of question marks. We're talking just of Oklahoma, and not all of the various aspects of the "trail of tears".

Here's one early (rejected) design that reflected Oklahoma's role in this:

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BobGreene · April 27, 2007 6:50AM

What I remember most about my visit to Oklahoma as a teenager were the oil derricks in the front yard of the state capitol building. I think THAT's what should be on the OK quarter.

The Oklahoma State Quarter?

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