From the farside: a possible new SCD discovery?

coindeuce · April 26, 2007 2:01PM

Snagged last weekend at a show, this bronze medal is nearly identical(43 mm.dia., 4.5 mm thick) to the HK-8 (shown below in white metal).

Texast · April 26, 2007 2:27PM

Nice piece...

beep · April 26, 2007 2:36PM

Thanks for posting something way cool. I like the science side with the doctor symbol (sorry don't know the greek name), planet model and gears juxtaposed with industry like work and engines.

Beep

Zoins · April 26, 2007 2:44PM

Very cool medals! The symbol she's holding is a wingless caduceus.

Coxe · April 26, 2007 2:52PM

Very cool! I love the obverse on the white metal one. Is that die polishing on the reverse? Looks like the bronze one might need some quick conservation. Neat that you managed to get them as a pair too.

beep · April 26, 2007 2:55PM

Hi Coxe, I read the OP as a bronze find and the white metal is a know example.

Brian

Coxe · April 26, 2007 3:00PM

Yeah, that's how I read it too. I was just bringing up what looks like some oxidation that should be arrested. SCDs are certainly a fun place to be right now. I am too distracted with VAMs and things like that to give it a serious run but do appreciate seeing finds like this.

jonathanb · April 26, 2007 3:11PM

HK-8 is known in bronze (probably will be called HK-8a). The obverse design was used on a bunch of medals; a large group of photography award medals was recently sold on eBay. There is also a larger version with the same design as HK-8 on both obverse and reverse. On the other hand, HK-8 is a British medal, and it was only listed as a So-Called Dollar in the first place because it was mistakenly identified as related to the New York Crystal Palace. I like the look of British medals a lot, but other ones wouldn't qualify as American So-Called Dollars...

coindeuce · April 27, 2007 12:15AM

Jonathan, are you stating that my bronze medal as well as the HK-8 white metal version are strictly related to the London Crystal Palace? I always thought that the London structure preceded the N.Y. structure, and that the indication on the medals of an 1854 opening date relates to the N.Y. structure.

StrikeOutXXX · April 27, 2007 12:30AM

<< <i>HK-8 is known in bronze (probably will be called HK-8a). The obverse design was used on a bunch of medals; a large group of photography award medals was recently sold on eBay. There is also a larger version with the same design as HK-8 on both obverse and reverse. On the other hand, HK-8 is a British medal, and it was only listed as a So-Called Dollar in the first place because it was mistakenly identified as related to the New York Crystal Palace. I like the look of British medals a lot, but other ones wouldn't qualify as American So-Called Dollars... >>

So-calleddollars.com does list the 8A as bronze, so I'll assume it will be in the new book. I have the same question as coindeuce did. If the London Crystal Palace opened in 1851, how could this/these not be related to the American Crystal Palace that opened on the dates noted? Or did you mean this was a SCD created in Britain of the American event?

so-calleddollarrs.com Crystal Palace Page

jonathanb · April 27, 2007 3:36AM

The London Crystal Palace opened in 1851, then closed, then reopened in 1854 in a different location (Sydenham). I don't know much details beyond that, but you can probably google them. The Wikipedia listing even uses the HK-8 medal (or possibly the larger version, since they don't say the size) as an illustration.

StrikeOutXXX · April 27, 2007 4:01AM

OK, that makes perfect sence - it isn't so much an "Opening Medal" as a relocation or re-opening medal.

So are they going to remove this from the new book, or at least add this info?

From the farside: a possible new SCD discovery?

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