How did this pink 1953D MS65FBL get in PCGS holder?

KoinDawg · April 21, 2007 1:13PM

I always though PINK on a silver coin was definitely AT and would get bb'd by PCGS.

Want to pay $800 for a Pink Frankie?
ebay link

GoldenEyeNumismatics · April 21, 2007 1:55PM

that one actually looks NT. You shouldn'y always presume that pink toned coins are AT--sometimes coins tone wierd colors natually

dugcoins · April 21, 2007 2:25PM

Seller has a lot of pink coins in PCGS slabs....Looks like someone upchucked on his coin collection

Zoins · April 21, 2007 2:31PM

Learn something new about market acceptability all the time.

Is it kind of disturbing to see a seller like this with lots of toned Morgans?

And who's Mike L? "C'mon Mike L, buy it, you know you want it."

Hadleydog · April 21, 2007 2:51PM

<< Learn something new about market acceptability all the time.

Is it kind of disturbing to see a seller like this with lots of toned Morgans? >>

Coins all look NT to me, it's some of the pictures that have been enhanced.

stman · April 21, 2007 3:06PM

Now here's the thing, if I comment no doubt it will be a board member's coins then I'll be in trouble.

Oh yeah..... Heh heh

ArgentumRex · April 21, 2007 3:08PM

That IS a board member's stuff, dontcha know! Some cool looking coins (I think).

Bruceswar · April 21, 2007 3:09PM

Why not just ask the seller. He is here among us. AKA Pharmer. Personally I like coin. NT if you ask me.

stman · April 21, 2007 3:10PM

Here is what I really think, I'm no photographer...... but I believe the pink tint is from using a reveal bulb for lighting.

fc · April 21, 2007 3:13PM

if the person is a board member he should know potential buyers
may want to see the obverse

i think the coin is AT and a PCGS slab does not change my mind.
a previous owner purposely put that coin around something to
tone it.

LucyBop · April 21, 2007 3:15PM

Wow, i bet that one is a stunner in person..

sorry Pharmer, but you should let the HepKitty image a Frankie or two of yours!

LucyBop · April 21, 2007 3:18PM

Colors like that are not unheard of on a Franklin/Mint set toner....

although that type of color is rather scarce as most tend to tone really drab, dull and lifeless, especially the mint sets from 1953.

As for AT or NT....

I would have to see this one and get up close and personal with it before I make a judgement.

From what I can tell, I like that piece.......

Hadleydog · April 21, 2007 4:23PM

<< Here is what I really think, I'm no photographer...... but I believe the pink tint is from using a reveal bulb for lighting. >>

Bingo! That explains why that shade of pink shows up on so many of his coins.
I'd love to see a picture of this coin taken by Lucy.........I'll bet it's a stunner.

bestclser1 · April 21, 2007 4:32PM

I believe that he takes his pictures in sunlight,but could be mistaking him from another member.Anyway i have seen many of his toned Morgans and they are nice coins,and NT.

airedale · April 21, 2007 4:50PM

It seems someone would have to search for a lifetime to find so many coins toned like this.

fc · April 21, 2007 5:08PM

airedale, that is a fun fun link. slabs everywhere, the color blinded me.

bushmaster8 · April 22, 2007 1:49AM

Mike L would be bUBBAH/ supercarcoins. (Who just bought a very expensive colorful 53-D from Peacok coins)

You have to wonder about Pharmers coins... so many have a similar look that would indicate AT. Some of the similarity can be explained by his poor photography & lighting (not that my photo skills are any better!), but I have little doubt he doctors as well.

The good thing is... Pharmer/Duffdaddy overprices his stuff so exorbitantly that few people will ever get suckered!

ArgentumRex · April 22, 2007 1:51AM

<< Mike L would be bUBBAH/ supercarcoins. (Who just bought a very expensive colorful 53-D from Peacok coins)

You have to wonder about Pharmers coins... so many have a similar look that would indicate AT. Some of the similarity can be explained by his poor photography & lighting (not that my photo skills are any better!), but I have little doubt he doctors as well.

The good thing is... Pharmer/Duffdaddy overprices his stuff so exorbitantly that few people will ever get suckered! >>

Didn't you post a comparison of two sets of photos of a Franklin half from Pharmer a while back? I thought I remembered that...

bushmaster8 · April 22, 2007 2:11AM

Yes Rex, your memory is good.

Unfortunately, I just tossed those pix last week.

To be fair tho', I should point out that the majority of voters in that thread felt that Pharmers coin was au naturale. (FOOLS!)

23Pairer · April 22, 2007 2:13AM

<< Here is what I really think, I'm no photographer...... but I believe the pink tint is from using a reveal bulb for lighting. >>

I agree, seems to be in all their coins. Marketing ploy for those wanting LSD flashback coins! Differing white balances and exposure characteristics give different "colors" to the coins.

Fairlaneman · April 22, 2007 3:00AM

<< The good thing is... Pharmer/Duffdaddy overprices his stuff so exorbitantly that few people will ever get suckered! >>

It only takes one sale of a world finest roosie to come out looking real peachy with the initial investment.

Ken

JRocco · April 22, 2007 3:24AM

I think that each of us has our own "photo style". This is due to our cameras and our lighting. I do not think for a minute that Pharmer plays any games with AT coins. Look at the persons pics as a whole and you can compensate for what the coin will look like in hand. My pics are taken with a reveal and an OTT bulb and my pics tend to overestimate the greens in my toned coins. Are those greens there--yes, but at some angles you see them less. Pharmers pics are consistent because of his setup and once you get to understand that you can know what the coin will look like in hand. Take the same toned coin and 10 of us will end up with different pics--some good, some bad and some ridiculous.
We don't all have mgoodm3's set-up or ability.

TorinoCobra71 · April 22, 2007 3:32AM

<< I always though PINK on a silver coin was definitely AT and would get bb'd by PCGS.

Want to pay $800 for a Pink Frankie?
ebay link >>

The HepKitty might like it!

TorinoCobra71

IGWT · April 22, 2007 5:08AM

Link.

foxxze · April 22, 2007 7:20AM

<< Mike L would be bUBBAH/ supercarcoins. (Who just bought a very expensive colorful 53-D from Peacok coins)

You have to wonder about Pharmers coins... so many have a similar look that would indicate AT. Some of the similarity can be explained by his poor photography & lighting (not that my photo skills are any better!), but I have little doubt he doctors as well.

The good thing is... Pharmer/Duffdaddy overprices his stuff so exorbitantly that few people will ever get suckered! >>

your not going to tell me duffdaddy and pharmer are the same guy are you ?? for God's sakes nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooyour not going to tell me duffdaddy and pharmer are the same guy are you ?? for God's sakes noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

foxxze · April 22, 2007 7:25AM

.......oh that Supercar wants it alright ..........want`s it he do's real bad ..........my preciousssssssssssss

but you got him blocked you trickciee's.........

foxxze · April 22, 2007 7:40AM

...i showed my friend

Myqqy · April 22, 2007 8:00AM

Some of the similarity can be explained by his poor photography & lighting (not that my photo skills are any better!), but I have little doubt he doctors as well.

I didn't know that pharmer was a color maker!

Frankcoins · April 22, 2007 10:50AM

Rare but natural

clarkbar04 · April 22, 2007 10:58AM

Reminds me of a urinal cake. I bet the smell is much better.

DJCoinz · April 22, 2007 11:01AM

Looks NT to me.

IrishMike · April 28, 2007 9:01PM

To those of you who think there aren't legitimately toned "pink" Franklins, you probably just haven't seen enough mint set toned coins of that era as they aren't common but there are many out there. I specifically picked up this coin, slabbed by NGC to add to my toned collection of Franklins. This is exactly how the coin looks in person.

foxxze · April 29, 2007 1:04AM

the image was not realistic colorwise ; thats why it looked like phony toning and was brought into question .

Colquhoun · April 29, 2007 1:52AM

I think the fact Lucy has this coin in hand and took accurate pics settles this.. NT all the way, poor orginal pic.

bushmaster8 · April 29, 2007 3:11AM

Irishmike....that is not showing up as pink on my monitor...white balance/lighting prolly the culprit.

How did this pink 1953D MS65FBL get in PCGS holder?

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