How can this be O/C???????????

themetalsign · April 21, 2007 7:21AM

Just picked this up. I just couldn't ever put a qualifier on this card. Is this really O/C ????????

">72 OPC Munson

themetalsign · April 21, 2007 7:26AM

72 OPC Munson

jmbkb4 · April 21, 2007 7:30AM

Looks straight 8 to me.

fiveniner · April 21, 2007 7:34AM

Boy! You got me hangin on that one.Sure looks centered to me.

Carew29 · April 21, 2007 7:37AM

Sorry-- O/C bottom top. I do believ it would make a straight though.

yankeeno7 · April 21, 2007 7:39AM

Wow, I think it should be without qualifier...be it an 8 or a 9. I think it looks better than a straight 7 (the downgrade for the qualifier)

Elemenopeo · April 21, 2007 7:42AM

How's the centering on the back?

SoonerCowboy · April 21, 2007 8:27AM

Top to bottom isn't centered. But dang It's not that bad.

themetalsign · April 21, 2007 9:13AM

The back is around 80/20. Whatever happened to the eye appeal aspect????????????

It's better than an 8 for sure. Should be 8.5. C'mon PSA. Add the half points to your scale.........

Munson back

jmbkb4 · April 21, 2007 12:10PM

NO biggie, just crack and resubmit if you want the 8. Graders are like Democrats on the war --- they'll change their minds!!

WinPitcher · April 21, 2007 12:57PM

Graders are like Democrats on the war --- they'll change their minds!!

keep your political views off the forum.

Steve

lowstartmick · April 21, 2007 1:10PM

Hey nice card , crack it out and keep it raw.

ctsoxfan · April 21, 2007 1:24PM

It's OC from top to bottom. The card itself is probably very sharp, hence the 9 - but it's not centered well enough for a straight 9.

Morgoth · April 21, 2007 2:08PM

I would send it in at least 3 more times. I would bet you could get it through once w/o a qualifier.

themetalsign · April 21, 2007 2:18PM

I do realize it's not perfectly centered. I just don't feel it should have been given an o/c qualifier. This card is much sweeter than the scan shows.

I have two of them so one will be cracked out (at some point) and put in a 1" shiny new screwdown for the raw collection.

Now this one is O/C..........

72 OPC Reggie Jackson

HOOKEMUP · April 21, 2007 2:29PM

No way should this card be an o/c. I think the grader should have his eyes checked.You need to have it regraded it should be an 8 nq

cardbender · April 21, 2007 5:43PM

That's an o/c Munson all day. Looks like 75/25 t-b to me without measuring it. Still a very nice looking card I wouldn't mind owning myself. I could care less if it was given the kiss of death qualifier. It has tremendous eye appeal (with slight off centering) and that's what really counts. I think the best it would grade without a qualifier would be PSA 7.

To get an 8 it has to be 65/35 or better. Don't believe the 'up to 70/30' line in the grade descriptions psa gives. I have stacks of examples here that should be 8's with 70/30 to slightly better t-b centering but they are residing in 7 holders. I talked with PSA about this published standard for the straight 8 grade and it all boils down to 'eye appeal'. In other words a grading loophole.

envoy98 · April 21, 2007 5:51PM

A straight 8 requires no worse than 70/30 centering. That is 75/25 top to bottom. From an eye appeal factor, its actually worse IMO because the bottom part of the arch looks like it's so far away from the top of the card. If you don't look at the bottom border initially, that card looks termendously off center, it's only once you see the bottom border that you realize it's not nearly as bad as it does on first glance. I think a 9OC is about as good as you're going to do with it. It's a gorgeous card, but I don't see any way you'd get it in an NQ 9 holder, and a straight 8 is going to be a sell as well. If you have a chance to see PSA at a local show, you can try your salesmanship skills and see what you can do.

Sharp looking card from a very popular set. Not to mention a fan favorite in Munson....but technically it's not a 9 and deserved the OC.

Terrific card either way.

jimq112 · April 21, 2007 11:37PM

I had a snipe on that card to hit with 5 secs left, it never went off. His IA card was a much nicer 9 but the s/s centering was too hard on the eyes. Nice buy.

themetalsign · April 22, 2007 12:38AM

Centering must be approximately 60/40 to 65/35 on front and 90/10 or better on the reverse. It just misses. After looking at my 72 Topps MINT 9 Munson I can see what you are talking about. Ishould be an 8.5 only due to centering. The card is as sharp as can be for an OPC.

Maybe I'll put it in a PRO holder and get a GEM MINT.

jmbkb4 · April 22, 2007 12:41AM

<< <i>Graders are like Democrats on the war --- they'll change their minds!!

keep your political views off the forum.

Steve >>

Hey Steve,

quit being a hypocrite and criticize others, including those who have their "political views" pasted in their signature. Oh wait, that would be the right/consistent thing to do.

P.S. Mine wasn't an opinion, it is a statement of fact. Grow up.

themetalsign · April 22, 2007 1:00AM

JimQ,
I had my eye on the Munson IA also but side to side was horrible. Yuck. I thought this one was a good buy. The first one I purchased I paid a lot for it though. This one brought the cost average down. It's still a tough card as most early OPC stuff is.

julen23 · April 22, 2007 1:05AM

don't let a grade prevent you from truly appreciating the card.

nice card.

julen

themetalsign · April 22, 2007 2:07AM

Jer, It doesn't bother me at all. I think it's a tough great MINT card of my favorite player of all time. I'll take a quality O/C any day of the week. Your cards are on the way.....

goose3 · April 22, 2007 2:35AM

<< <i>NO biggie, just crack and resubmit if you want the 8. Graders are like Democrats on the war --- they'll change their minds!! >>

??? I thought they were on Al-Qaeda's side all along.

as far as the card.....I had a few of my dad's 59 topps come back like that (OC 9's)....
sure looks pretty nice to me.

How can this be O/C???????????

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