Anybody notice anything interesting about this 1964 NGC PF69UCAM Kennedy Half?

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  • foodude
    foodude Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭
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    It's undergradedimage ... it has a funny looking foot at the bottom of the left side of the "I", and you suckimage

    edited for spelling.
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  • SilverEagles92
    SilverEagles92 Posts: 6,787 ✭
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    Is it an AH? Not noted on label?
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  • Darkmane
    Darkmane Posts: 1,021 ✭
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    I was thinking... that'd be quite the score.
  • stephunter
    stephunter Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭
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    Did you make a major rip?
  • Russ
    Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>and you suck >>



    I don't suck. It's part of a consignment group that came in, and I'm going to have one very happy consignor when he checks his PMs!!

    Russ, NCNE
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  • SilverEagles92
    SilverEagles92 Posts: 6,787 ✭
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    << <i>

    << <i>and you suck >>



    I don't suck. It's part of a consignment group that came in, and I'm going to have one very happy consignor when he checks his PMs!!

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Are you going to offer to buy it?
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  • Russ
    Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    PS: There are also two that NGC screwed up in the other direction also. But, nowhere near that value of this one.

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  • foodude
    foodude Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭
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    I don't suck. It's part of a consignment group that came in, and I'm going to have one very happy consignor when he checks his PMs!!

    image, oh
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  • Russ
    Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>Are you going to offer to buy it? >>



    I couldn't possibly afford it. The last time an NGC PF69UCAM Accented Hair, (there is currently only one), traded hands it went north of $10K.

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  • SilverEagles92
    SilverEagles92 Posts: 6,787 ✭
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    << <i>Are you going to offer to buy it? >>



    I couldn't possibly afford it. The last time an NGC PF69UCAM Accented Hair, (there is currently only one), traded hands it went north of $10K.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    How much is a non-AH PF69 worth?
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  • badger
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    Nice find. Why is it always you, Russ?image

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  • Russ
    Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>How much is a non-AH PF69 worth? >>



    An NGC PF69UCAM is around $700.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • DHeath
    DHeath Posts: 8,472 ✭✭✭
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    Incredible find, and NGC should immediately fix the designation! They came dangerously close to costing the submitter or current owner big money.
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  • Russ
    Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>Nice find. Why is it always you, Russ? >>



    It's not mine. It's damned near as exciting as if it were, though!

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  • SilverEagles92
    SilverEagles92 Posts: 6,787 ✭
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    << <i>

    << <i>How much is a non-AH PF69 worth? >>



    An NGC PF69UCAM is around $700.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Oh my image
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  • MadMarty
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    << <i>Incredible find, and NGC should immediately fix the designation! They came dangerously close to costing the submitter or current owner big money. >>



    That is an old holder, were they designation AHs back then?
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • Russ
    Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>That is an old holder, were they designation AHs back then? >>



    Yes. I have several from the same era that are designated.

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  • jmj3esq
    jmj3esq Posts: 5,421 ✭
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    WOW!!!
  • IGWT
    IGWT Posts: 4,975 ✭
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    That's outstanding.
  • Cameonut
    Cameonut Posts: 7,435 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    That is pretty cool - nice find. image

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  • quattrocoins
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    << <i>image >>



    Get it to cross and the consignor will REALLY have something! image

    BTW, it's a good thing he didn't consign it with Legend's auctions! imageimage
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  • Russ
    Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>Get it to cross and the consignor will REALLY have something! >>



    It wouldn't cross to PCGS because a) While it's a nice coin, it isn't PCGS standard for DCAM, and b) PCGS has never graded one at this level, and probably never will. It's a nice dream, though. image

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  • kranky
    kranky Posts: 8,709 ✭✭✭
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    What a great day for the consignor and kudos to you for catching it on the consignor's behalf.

    New collectors, please educate yourself before spending money on coins; there are people who believe that using numismatic knowledge to rip the naïve is what this hobby is all about.

  • lasvegasteddy
    lasvegasteddy Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭
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    wow...major cha-ching.on the unattributed topic...,
    i gotta ask what's the reverse like ?
    has anyone ever discoverred a transitional that has the accented hair obverse with the second reverse?
    i have the other way around with the second obverse on a accented hair reverse but wonder if the other way around exsist's too?
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • Russ
    Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>i gotta ask what's the reverse like ? >>



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    << <i>has anyone ever discoverred a transitional that has the accented hair obverse with the second reverse? >>



    Nope.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • lasvegasteddy
    lasvegasteddy Posts: 10,492 ✭✭✭
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    thanks russ
    everything in life is but merely on loan to us by our appreciation....lose your appreciation and see


  • morgansforever
    morgansforever Posts: 8,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Looks like a missing serif on the I in Liberty. So it must be the accented hair. image
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  • richardshipp
    richardshipp Posts: 5,647 ✭✭✭
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    It's good to know there are still honest folks out there. Kudos for doing the right thing.

  • MORGANHUNTER2
    MORGANHUNTER2 Posts: 4,473 ✭
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    nice consignment russ


    let biddles know you are not a ????

    Too bad some folk look at this as suckin up- but this is an honest person- russ could a ripped it if he wanted to- but instead- he'll get it straight with NGC and put her up fer sale.
  • Longacre
    Longacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
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    Why does it say "W" on the slab?
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  • IGWT
    IGWT Posts: 4,975 ✭
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    NGC used a "White" designation for a period of time.
  • grabba
    grabba Posts: 1,251
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    Very nice AH that will definitely draw big bucks.

    A no reserve auction on this one?

    I would be hard pressed to let that one go without a reserve.
  • dan8402
    dan8402 Posts: 2,163
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    << <i>nice consignment russ
    let biddles know you are not a ????

    Too bad some folk look at this as suckin up- but this is an honest person- russ could a ripped it if he wanted to- but instead- he'll get it straight with NGC and put her up fer sale. >>



    He is working on consignment fees right? It is in his best interest for it to sell for more. Not taking away anything from his honesty...
  • Russ
    Russ Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
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    << <i>A no reserve auction on this one?

    I would be hard pressed to let that one go without a reserve. >>



    I don't know if my consignor will still want to sell it but if so, yes, it'll be auctioned at no reserve.

    Russ, NCNE
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  • grabba
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    << <i>

    << <i>A no reserve auction on this one?

    I would be hard pressed to let that one go without a reserve. >>



    I don't know if my consignor will still want to sell it but if so, yes, it'll be auctioned at no reserve.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    If I had deep pockets, I would sure as hell try for that one because I damn well can't find one decent one on my own! image
  • DHeath
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    TTT to make sure the right folks see it.
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  • jgrinz
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    Hey Russ ...
    Is that a round "G" on the reverse .. I thought it was supposed to be a Straight Back "G".
    or Is it just the Picture ??? Rays look to be broken ...

    Or are there Exceptions to the RULE you have seen ???
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  • airedale
    airedale Posts: 505 ✭
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    << <i>Get it to cross and the consignor will REALLY have something! >>



    It wouldn't cross to PCGS because a) While it's a nice coin, it isn't PCGS standard for DCAM, and b) PCGS has never graded one at this level, and probably never will. It's a nice dream, though. image

    Russ, NCNE >>


    What a wonderful coin. Russ could you, if you have the time, describe the differences between the two company's standards here. It may be long and detailed so if you do not that is OK. On another forum I saw Lucy allude to the differences in what they each look for but can no longer find that thread.
    Thanks.
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  • PhillyJoe
    PhillyJoe Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭✭
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    I'm familiar with the consignor. I know Russ has contacted them about his find and they are stunned and in shock. They have had this coin for a few years and never questioned the grade when they rec'd it. Since then, unfortunately, it's been in a safe deposit box; all the time thinking it was just a nice 69 u/c. Congrats to Russ on the discovery; I'm sure he will share in the consignor's good fortune.

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  • gamr0n
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    I am going to get the first bid in at $1.00. Snipers beware.
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