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Diagnostics for MPL's?

I've got a lincoln cent, with vibrant pink and blue toning seen on both sides, and the surfaces remind me of a MPL. How can I tell if it's just a really nice Business Strike, or perhaps an actual Matte Proof Lincoln cent?
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    The inner side of the rim is squared and sharp rather than rounded.

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  • The rims are pretty square... Anything else?
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  • mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    The rims are flat also.
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  • Yeah, they're flat. Do I have a MPL on my hands here??
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  • 66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Yeah, they're flat. Do I have a MPL on my hands here?? >>



    What year is it??

  • It's a 1909 VDB.
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  • 66RB66RB Posts: 2,516 ✭✭✭
    from a search on these forums........



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    Steve
    Collector

    Posts: 1540
    Joined: Feb 2001
    Tuesday March 20, 2007 9:55 AM (NEW!)





    << What are the 3 key markers to spot a matte proof VDB? They are pretty interesting to me and i'll be keeping an eye out for them in the future >>



    Mark, the three key diagnostics that appear on all legitimate 1909VDB Matte proof Lincoln cents are as follows:

    1. Die polish shows on front of and on top of Lincoln's nose on the obverse.

    2. A die scratch from the back of Lincoln's coat into the field to below the right leg of the "R" of LIBERTY on the obverse.

    3. A cresent shaped die chip to the right of "M" in UNUM on the reverse.

    Most experts believe that only ONE obverse die and ONE reverse die was used in the production of these VDB Matte proofs. The obverse die diagnostics also appear on SOME 1909 noVDB Matte proof Lincoln cents including the one I own. It is very important to not buy a raw example of this rare coin because if the coin does not display these diagnostics, the leading third party grading services will not certify the coin. JMHO. Steve



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  • << <i>from a search on these forums........



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    Steve
    Collector

    Posts: 1540
    Joined: Feb 2001
    Tuesday March 20, 2007 9:55 AM (NEW!)





    << What are the 3 key markers to spot a matte proof VDB? They are pretty interesting to me and i'll be keeping an eye out for them in the future >>



    Mark, the three key diagnostics that appear on all legitimate 1909VDB Matte proof Lincoln cents are as follows:

    1. Die polish shows on front of and on top of Lincoln's nose on the obverse.

    2. A die scratch from the back of Lincoln's coat into the field to below the right leg of the "R" of LIBERTY on the obverse.

    3. A cresent shaped die chip to the right of "M" in UNUM on the reverse.

    Most experts believe that only ONE obverse die and ONE reverse die was used in the production of these VDB Matte proofs. The obverse die diagnostics also appear on SOME 1909 noVDB Matte proof Lincoln cents including the one I own. It is very important to not buy a raw example of this rare coin because if the coin does not display these diagnostics, the leading third party grading services will not certify the coin. JMHO. Steve



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    Unfortunately, none of those diagnostics are present image

    Guess it's just a nice business strike image
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