At the risk of derailing this thread, which I am not trying to do, I see another reason not to buy dansco...they omit my favorite coins--the early cents....
On the topic of the 7070, it's a little baffling what they choose to include and what they choose not to include.
For example, why does the 1864 composition change in the Indian Head cent constitute a separate "type", but the 40% silver Kennedy's and Ikes do NOT constitute separate types? Or the zinc Lincolns?
Why is the VDB Lincoln a separate type, but the initials added on the Jefferson Nickel is not a separate type?
Why are the Buffalo type I and Type II both included, but the high relief Peace Dollar is not, even though it's a much less subtle change?
I know there are no "rules" and everyone is going to collect type coins as they like, but why would they be inconsistent within the same album?
On the topic of the 7070, it's a little baffling what they choose to include and what they choose not to include.
For example, why does the 1864 composition change in the Indian Head cent constitute a separate "type", but the 40% silver Kennedy's and Ikes do NOT constitute separate types? Or the zinc Lincolns?
Why is the VDB Lincoln a separate type, but the initials added on the Jefferson Nickel is not a separate type?
Why are the Buffalo type I and Type II both included, but the high relief Peace Dollar is not, even though it's a much less subtle change?
I know there are no "rules" and everyone is going to collect type coins as they like, but why would they be inconsistent within the same album?
Thoughts?
Rex >>
It would be way cool to build one's own type album or display. How could this be done?
I agree that the other composition changes should be included. Also, why not both compositions for the bicentennials as well? Why just one modern commemorative when you're asked to come up with four classics to fill space on the modern page?
Intercept Shield has largely copied the Dansco layout, unfortunately. It's daunting to be asked to come up with two and usually three iterations of the same basic Seated design for dollars, halves, quarters, dimes AND half dimes -- especially when you want uncirculated specimens in your album. Whew! Makes the 10-specimen gold page look like a breeze!
<<Why just one modern commemorative when you're asked to come up with four classics to fill space on the modern page?>>
Exactly! Even if you ONLY care about denomination and composition, a more balanced four coin presentation of commems for "type" purposes would be:
Silver Quarter: i.e. Isabella Silver Half: i.e. Any of the classics or Washington / Madison Silver Dollar: i.e. Lafayette or any of the Moderns Clad Half: i.e. Any of the other 14 moderns
Thanks for all your kind words - I'm very pleased with the set. In answer two a few questions:
1. Presidential dollar: one's on the way.
2. the 1847 Half Dime and classic head large cent are two of my favorite circulated coins, and a tie for second place in the set.
3. It was loads of fun to put together. I recommend that everyone attempt one - it's a wonderful educational experience and a good overview of U.S. Coins. Be extremely cautious on the expensive coins; I had a few bad experiences along the way.
4. I have only one or two regrets with that set. The Gettysburg is clearly polished; you can see that with the naked eye. It kicked the price of the coin down, but in retrospect I'd rather have held out for a true mint state example. Alternatively, a problem-free example of a less expensive commem would make me happier also. That coin, along with the Barber Half and RE Capped Bust are very likely to be upgraded in the future.
The bottom line is this: Do not compromise and get a coin you don't like for less money. The blank slot will bother you less than a coin you dislike
5. My favorite coin is probably the 1877 Seated Liberty Half; I always stop to look at that coin. it's an approximately AU53/55 coin. I had ANACS look at it at the 2005 World's Fair of Money, their opinion is that it is an original coin.
6. Dansco's decisions on what to include are somewhat arbitrary, aren't they? There's more than one type of 3c silver. The "Coronet" 1816-1839 Large Cents had (to my eye) a rather significant design change in 1835 that was greater than the change in 1840. When V.D.B. was added back to the Lincoln cent, that's arguably another type. Same when the composition changed to Zincolns. Additional arrows were added and removed from Seated Liberty coinage in the 1870s.
7. A current project for me is to sit down with Breen and determine the varieties of every coin in the set. That's almost as much fun as assembling the set.
You have a lot of nice crusty pieces in there! Nice.
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Nice set, I'm only a few away from completing mine........It's been fun..
I also hate it when those stupid Reeded Edge CBH's spin around in the album like that, don't you?
The one's I'm missing are the series that I don't collect which are in turn the MOST expensive. It's hard to pay alot for a coin just to fill a hole in a book.....
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I took the set to a coin shop to have it appraised for insurance purposes.
Note to thieves: the set is not kept in my home. Good luck to you.
This was also a good way to get a second opinion on grades and whether or not the coins were cleaned. I didn't tell them which ones I thought had been cleaned. I disagreed with some of their grades, but I would, wouldn't I?
they picked out two coins I thought (or knew) had been cleaned and detected a third that I did not suspect.
the gettyburgh half I knew was cleaned - I'd bought it that way and could easily see the smooth devices and loss of luster.
the 1873 Seated Dollar I was pretty sure was cleaned - they thought so too.
the 1876 Seated Quarter they were sure was cleaned. this was not a suprise, but not a shock either. I'll look at it more and see what I think.
In their opinion it was one of the nicest type sets they'd seen. I know it pales in comparison to some of the ones I've seen here.
Congrats on a super nice set. I've been workinig on mine only a month or two and have most of the easy ones. I agree with your statement that it's better to have a blank than a piece you don't like. I've already pulled a couple of mine out as they didn't seem to "fit".
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<< <i>Congraulations. I am enjoying putting together mine very much, though it's hard to resist just filling the holes.
You should have a party to present it to your friends. I know I will.
Are you going to do the gold page? >>
I might. If my income increases to a certain point I will. Right now I'm focusing on some easier sets like the Franklins, Jeffs, Kennedys etc.
I have two coins for the gold page already, but I've resisted buying the gold page just yet.
I would have a party to present it to friends, but most of them aren't the type that collect coins. I have one good friend who has seen the completed set and he loves it.
<< <i>Although maybe I should revisit my earlier satisfaction with my appraisers - they missed that >>
Indeed you should. In a series that tends to be a b;+ch in the first place, that coin is really tough! If you should ever have a reason to part ways with that one, by the way, please let me know!
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Nice collection. I know the gold is pricey.
I'm only 16 coins away from completing my 7070.
Where's your Presidential dollar?
My first post...updated with pics
I collect mostly moderns and I'm currently working on a US type set.
You have put together a very nice set there.
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etexmike
My OmniCoin Collection
My BankNoteBank Collection
Tom, formerly in Albuquerque, NM.
Some fun stuff there.
U.S. Type Set
Good job. Lots of nice looking coins.
On the topic of the 7070, it's a little baffling what they choose to include and what they choose not to include.
For example, why does the 1864 composition change in the Indian Head cent constitute a separate "type", but the 40% silver Kennedy's and Ikes do NOT constitute separate types? Or the zinc Lincolns?
Why is the VDB Lincoln a separate type, but the initials added on the Jefferson Nickel is not a separate type?
Why are the Buffalo type I and Type II both included, but the high relief Peace Dollar is not, even though it's a much less subtle change?
I know there are no "rules" and everyone is going to collect type coins as they like, but why would they be inconsistent within the same album?
Thoughts?
Rex
<< <i>Nice Collection.
On the topic of the 7070, it's a little baffling what they choose to include and what they choose not to include.
For example, why does the 1864 composition change in the Indian Head cent constitute a separate "type", but the 40% silver Kennedy's and Ikes do NOT constitute separate types? Or the zinc Lincolns?
Why is the VDB Lincoln a separate type, but the initials added on the Jefferson Nickel is not a separate type?
Why are the Buffalo type I and Type II both included, but the high relief Peace Dollar is not, even though it's a much less subtle change?
I know there are no "rules" and everyone is going to collect type coins as they like, but why would they be inconsistent within the same album?
Thoughts?
Rex >>
It would be way cool to build one's own type album or display. How could this be done?
I agree that the other composition changes should be included. Also, why not both compositions for the bicentennials as well? Why just one modern commemorative when you're asked to come up with four classics to fill space on the modern page?
Intercept Shield has largely copied the Dansco layout, unfortunately. It's daunting to be asked to come up with two and usually three iterations of the same basic Seated design for dollars, halves, quarters, dimes AND half dimes -- especially when you want uncirculated specimens in your album. Whew! Makes the 10-specimen gold page look like a breeze!
Exactly! Even if you ONLY care about denomination and composition, a more balanced four coin presentation of commems for "type" purposes would be:
Silver Quarter: i.e. Isabella
Silver Half: i.e. Any of the classics or Washington / Madison
Silver Dollar: i.e. Lafayette or any of the Moderns
Clad Half: i.e. Any of the other 14 moderns
Rex
1. Presidential dollar: one's on the way.
2. the 1847 Half Dime and classic head large cent are two of my favorite circulated coins, and a tie for second place in the set.
3. It was loads of fun to put together. I recommend that everyone attempt one - it's a wonderful educational experience and a good overview of U.S. Coins. Be extremely cautious on the expensive coins; I had a few bad experiences along the way.
4. I have only one or two regrets with that set. The Gettysburg is clearly polished; you can see that with the naked eye. It kicked the price of the coin down, but in retrospect I'd rather have held out for a true mint state example. Alternatively, a problem-free example of a less expensive commem would make me happier also.
That coin, along with the Barber Half and RE Capped Bust are very likely to be upgraded in the future.
The bottom line is this: Do not compromise and get a coin you don't like for less money. The blank slot will bother you less than a coin you dislike
5. My favorite coin is probably the 1877 Seated Liberty Half; I always stop to look at that coin. it's an approximately AU53/55 coin. I had ANACS look at it at the 2005 World's Fair of Money, their opinion is that it is an original coin.
6. Dansco's decisions on what to include are somewhat arbitrary, aren't they? There's more than one type of 3c silver. The "Coronet" 1816-1839 Large Cents had (to my eye) a rather significant design change in 1835 that was greater than the change in 1840. When V.D.B. was added back to the Lincoln cent, that's arguably another type. Same when the composition changed to Zincolns. Additional arrows were added and removed from Seated Liberty coinage in the 1870s.
7. A current project for me is to sit down with Breen and determine the varieties of every coin in the set. That's almost as much fun as assembling the set.
best regards folks,
This forum's own Blackhawk and Coinpeople.com's 28Plain (is he over here too?).
Larry Bovo of "The Silver Baron" in Alameda, CA sold me many of the circ examples in the set.
I may have left some folks out. Thanks everyone.
Didn't wanna get me no trade
Never want to be like papa
Working for the boss every night and day
--"Happy", by the Rolling Stones (1972)
I also hate it when those stupid Reeded Edge CBH's spin around in the album like that, don't you?
The one's I'm missing are the series that I don't collect which are in turn the MOST expensive. It's hard to pay alot for a coin just to fill a hole in a book.....
Too many positive BST transactions with too many members to list.
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Now, its time to upgrade!!!
"Bongo hurtles along the rain soaked highway of life on underinflated bald retread tires."
~Wayne
Note to thieves: the set is not kept in my home. Good luck to you.
This was also a good way to get a second opinion on grades and whether or not the coins were cleaned. I didn't tell them which ones I thought had been cleaned. I disagreed with some of their grades, but I would, wouldn't I?
they picked out two coins I thought (or knew) had been cleaned and detected a third that I did not suspect.
the gettyburgh half I knew was cleaned - I'd bought it that way and could easily see the smooth devices and loss of luster.
the 1873 Seated Dollar I was pretty sure was cleaned - they thought so too.
the 1876 Seated Quarter they were sure was cleaned. this was not a suprise, but not a shock either. I'll look at it more and see what I think.
In their opinion it was one of the nicest type sets they'd seen. I know it pales in comparison to some of the ones I've seen here.
Btw, these nice folks did the appraisal for free.
the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
Join the NRA and protect YOUR right to keep and bear arms
To protest against all hunting of game is a sign of softness of head, not soundness of heart. Theodore Roosevelt
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Now straighten out that RE Bust half, soldier!
I'm 4 away from finishing mine. I need seated quarters and seated dollars. I've already started upgrading!
You should have a party to present it to your friends. I know I will.
Are you going to do the gold page?
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson
<< <i>Congraulations. I am enjoying putting together mine very much, though it's hard to resist just filling the holes.
You should have a party to present it to your friends. I know I will.
Are you going to do the gold page? >>
I might. If my income increases to a certain point I will. Right now I'm focusing on some easier sets like the Franklins, Jeffs, Kennedys etc.
I have two coins for the gold page already, but I've resisted buying the gold page just yet.
I would have a party to present it to friends, but most of them aren't the type that collect coins. I have one good friend who has seen the completed set and he loves it.
Dennis
Looking for PCGS AU58 Washington's, 32-63.
<< <i>WOW!!! Very nice accomplishment
I second the motion.
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That's an 1811/10 classic head cent, isn't it? Very nice!
<< <i>Nice to see this again.
That's an 1811/10 classic head cent, isn't it? Very nice! >>
Indeed it is. Although maybe I should revisit my earlier satisfaction with my appraisers - they missed that.
hrm. I shouldn't complain about free work.
<< <i>Although maybe I should revisit my earlier satisfaction with my appraisers - they missed that >>
Indeed you should. In a series that tends to be a b;+ch in the first place, that coin is really tough! If you should ever have a reason to part ways with that one, by the way, please let me know!
K
<< <i>No more pages beyond that? I might have to get me one of those and try it out. >>
There's a page for gold coins. I've only purchased two so far.
In honor of the memory of Cpl. Michael E. Thompson