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King Farouk collection of pennies & dimes

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    ConnecticoinConnecticoin Posts: 13,275 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Was the owner able to get the Farouk pedigree indicated on the labels?
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    I'm more interested in the 30 that bagged and others that he felt were not worth sending in.
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    ShortgapbobShortgapbob Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭
    Wow.......a very select group of coins in excellent grades! Were they able to get the pedigree? Also.....of the coins that were bodybagged, are any of them coins that should be resubmitted to possibly get into a holder the second time around?
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    speetyspeety Posts: 5,424
    Nice coins, PM Sent
    Want to buy an auction catalog for the William Hesslein Sale (December 2, 1926). Thanks to all those who have helped us obtain the others!!!

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    GrandpaGrandpa Posts: 24 ✭✭
    Since there seems to be interest in what was boby bagged here are the results.

    0.01 1857 Flying Eagle cleaned
    0.01 1877 Altered Surface
    0.01 1908 S Indian CLEANEDRB
    0.01 1908S Linc. CLEANEDRB
    0.01 1909S VDB ALTERED
    0.01 1909-S VDB env. Damage
    0.01 1919-D * ?? Color
    0.01 1922 NO D ALTERED
    0.01 1922 NO D not genuine rd
    0.01 1955 Dbld d Altered SurfaceRD
    0.02 1864 cleanedRB
    0.02 1872 CLEANEDRB
    0.03 1869 env. Damage
    0.05 1880 PR97
    0.05 1885 CLEANED
    0.05 1921S cleaned
    0.05 1926S ALTERED & cleaned (this was sent twice)
    0.1 1827 cleaned
    0.1 1871S cleaned
    0.1 1912-D cleaned
    0.25 1913 CLEANED
    0.5 1830 LO CLEANED
    0.5 1883 Hawaii CLEANED
    0.5 1928 Hawaii CLEANED
    $1 1894 env. Damage
    $1 1885CC ?? Color
    $1 1893CC cleaned
    $1 1893-s altered surface
    $1 1900 Lafayette CLEANED

    the 1919 -D this was slabed the 2nd time submitted

    We sent what we considered the most valuable coins or the coins that had the most to gain if they graded out at a higher grade then what our Grandfather had graded them.

    Most of his coins had a grade but since he passed away in 1969, his grading system was different than what is used today. He has just UNC not ms60 and up.

    None of the coins from the King Farouk auction were graded by Grandpa, they are just in 3 grey plastic cases. These are flying eagles 1856-1858, all the Indians 1859-1909 and Lincolns till 1938.I have tried to contact PCGS a couple of times about what we should do to get the King Farouk pedegree but I have had no luck whatsoever. They have not reponded to my emails. So I pretty much gave up. The collection will be divided 3 ways next week. Then maybe i /we can concentrate on trying once again to find out from PCGS what we need to do.

    We also have a complete book of the commemoritives. (.25 Isable all the halves and the 1900 $1 Laffayette .) It would be good to have them slabbed but would they qualify for the bulk rate?

    If anyone here has an inside track to someone in the know with PCGS maybe you could point them in my direction.

    Once these are divided, I am sure many more coins will be sent. We were just trying to get the most valuable out of the way so we could divide it up.
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    GrandpaGrandpa Posts: 24 ✭✭
    ttt
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    cladkingcladking Posts: 30,160 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do you have extensive documentation that these are Farouk coins?

    ttt
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    GrandpaGrandpa Posts: 24 ✭✭
    I have the original invoice. This invoice states "King Farouk" auction and the date. I have not purchased the catalog yet.
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    wayneherndonwayneherndon Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭
    That sounds like a neat collection. I suspect PCGS would be interested in pedigreeing them to Farouk if you have proper documentation. Try sending a PM to Homerunhall and/or Coinking and linking them to the thread or providing details of the collection. If that doesn't work, you should work with a PCGS authorized dealer in your area to assist with having them graded and pedigreed. Do not give up on the pedigree. This is an area where you will be rewarded for your diligence.

    WH
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    GrandpaGrandpa Posts: 24 ✭✭
    WH - Thanks for the suggestion. I did not know their forum names. I think I will try to contct them directly.
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    scooter25scooter25 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭✭
    Wow this is turning into quite a story!! That is a really nice set of coins. Keep us posted
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    GrandpaGrandpa Posts: 24 ✭✭
    I sent an email to PCGS about getting the Farouk pedigree, here is the response.

    FROM PCGS:
    Thank you for contacting PCGS Customer Service. We regret to inform you we cannot offer the Pedigree with the information/evidence provided. Without photographic evidence, there is no way to tie these coins to either B. Max Mehl or King Farouk. We have the same problem with coins from the Farouk Sale itself because of the poorly illustrated catalog.

    Here is part of the receipt and a letter from Max Mehl.

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    DorkGirlDorkGirl Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭
    Too bad, but I understand their point. Without good pictures, the coins could be from anywhere. Sorry.

    Maybe you should think about consigning them to an auction house or a dealer.
    Becky

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