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ArtistArtist Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭
Hello All -

Maybe this has been posted before - even if it has, perhaps my posting it again will help still more others...

This week I got taken by a fishing scam - usually I have a sixth sense for these things and see them coming from a mile away, but this one got me. Here's how it works:

I got an email, from service@paypal.com, informing me that Melinda Navarro had made a payment to my account for $93.50. This email looked exactly like other such legitamate emails I have received form paypal in the past, and so my first thought was that Melinda Navarro had made a mistake. I clicked the link which took me to a site that looked EXACTLY like the Paypal Login screen, and had a URL that began with http://www.paypal.com, except when I typed my name & password word into I got a screen that said there was an error processing my login. It took me all of three seconds to realize I had just been had...

I immediately logged into the real Paypal and changed my password. Just to be sure, I also deleted all my cards & accounts. And just to be extra sure, I put a 48 hour hold on my bank account to make sure that no illicit transactions had occured. Luckily, I think I am safe - but boy, this was an effective fishing scheme. Scary effective.

Hope none of you get this same email - but if you do I hope this post helps you avoid a potentially nightmarsih situation.

~ Artist

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    I get those all the time.When i do,i don't open anything else up in the email.I just go to my paypal account to make sure all is ok.
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    StampAlarmStampAlarm Posts: 1,668
    I have to admit I've become lax. I just delete them. I use to go to my paypal account right away to make sure all was ok, but now I usually don't.



    Jerry
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    << <i>I get those all the time.When i do,i don't open anything else up in the email.I just go to my paypal account to make sure all is ok. >>



    Exactly.... DO NOT use the links.... Open a browser window and access your account (paypal or anyhing else) directly.......
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    << <i>I have to admit I've become lax. I just delete them. I use to go to my paypal account right away to make sure all was ok, but now I usually don't.



    Jerry >>




    Me too.... It's virtually all phishing expeditions with me..... I essentially ignore them all.... if they're new ones, I'll usually forward them to spoof@paypal.com or spoof@ebay.com
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    RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608
    Any real email will have a person's full name, not their screen name.

    Never click on links in an email. Always open a new browser window or browser tab and type in the link or use a favorites link.

    Following these two rules will eliminate 99.5% of phishing scams.

    It is a crying shame that Ebay and Paypal refuse to implement simple and effective security procedures that many financial institutions now use on their sites. These include a user selected image, and tag line that appear when ever a user types in their password. This is light years against the ridiculously ineffective "Verisign." The overhead would be no more than the avatars on this site (very low). The cynical conclusion is that some bean counters at Ebay/Paypal looked at that idea and found that the scams are contributing to the bottom line in a positive way.
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    notwilightnotwilight Posts: 12,864 ✭✭✭


    << <i> It is a crying shame that Ebay and Paypal refuse to implement simple and effective security procedures that many financial institutions now use on their sites. These include a user selected image, and tag line that appear when ever a user types in their password. This is light years against the ridiculously ineffective "Verisign." The overhead would be no more than the avatars on this site (very low). The cynical conclusion is that some bean counters at Ebay/Paypal looked at that idea and found that the scams are contributing to the bottom line in a positive way. >>



    Since Bank of America implemented the suggested procedures their website is so slow as to be unusable. I'll admit this is only one of the reasons I'll be closing my account but it's a good one. I'm also always skeptical of a non-participant who has all the answers. --Jerry
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    garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    I never click on links in e-mails anymore, even if I won an auction and need to pay for it. It's too easy for scammers to find access to lists of winning bidders. I log directly into the auction site to finalize all transactions.
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    Forward these to spoof@paypal.com and they'll reply telling whether or not it's authenic. Same for spoof@ebay.com.



    Mike





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    JcarneyJcarney Posts: 3,154


    << <i>This email looked exactly like other such legitamate emails I have received form paypal in the past, and so my first thought was that Melinda Navarro had made a mistake. I clicked the link which took me to a site that looked EXACTLY like the Paypal Login screen >>



    Don't ever, ever, EVER click any link in any email no matter how legitimate it looks.
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    jmj3esqjmj3esq Posts: 5,421
    I had the same thing happen to me except instead of a paypal payment notice it was a question froma potential buyer. I realized what was going on before I gave up my username and password.
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    MJPHELANMJPHELAN Posts: 815 ✭✭✭
    I like to have fun with these and type a new password and username in (one telling them what they can do to themselves).
    Mark
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    If PayPal needs to notify you they will do it with your PayPal account. They will never send an email to aol - yahoo requesting personal information.
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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
    I got two emails yesterday from "Bank of America" telling me that I had to log into my account to confirm my account details, password, etc. The format looked legitimate, but the text was so poorly written, it was obvious that it was a scam.

    For example, the opening line in the email was: "Hello dear Bank of America customer!". If I read that in my head with a Nigerian accent, it makes perfect sense!
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
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    garsmithgarsmith Posts: 5,894 ✭✭
    <<I like to have fun with these and type a new password and username in (one telling them what they can do to themselves).>>


    Great Idea I think I will try that

    login: u r sofaking
    password: stupid

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    WillieBoyd2WillieBoyd2 Posts: 5,391 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have received two scam Paypal emails with my real name in them.

    I suspect that someone who bought an Ebay item from me sold the name and email address to scammers.

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    Thanks for the heads up on this scam.
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    RedTigerRedTiger Posts: 5,608


    << <i>

    << <i> It is a crying shame that Ebay and Paypal refuse to implement simple and effective security procedures that many financial institutions now use on their sites. These include a user selected image, and tag line that appear when ever a user types in their password. This is light years against the ridiculously ineffective "Verisign." The overhead would be no more than the avatars on this site (very low). The cynical conclusion is that some bean counters at Ebay/Paypal looked at that idea and found that the scams are contributing to the bottom line in a positive way. >>



    Since Bank of America implemented the suggested procedures their website is so slow as to be unusable. I'll admit this is only one of the reasons I'll be closing my account but it's a good one. I'm also always skeptical of a non-participant who has all the answers. --Jerry >>



    That is an issue with the Bank of America servers and their technical team. The security measures are not much more overhead than the avatars on this site, and everyone has an avatar and a tag line.

    Does anyone believe that 80x80 images and twenty byte phrases are what has slowed the BofA site to a crawl? Would you prefer that banks have a useless "Verisign" security measure so thousands of folks can have their bank accounts compromised, on the same percentage as Ebay and Paypal accounts? Would that make an objective person more likely or less likely to use that bank over another with simple but effective security?
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    ttownttown Posts: 4,472 ✭✭✭
    I get those all the time too.

    The latest thing that's happening to me is a record phone call that wants you to hit 9 to talk to a operator. They are claiming that I'm a perfered customer and can get 6.25% interest on all of my credit cards. They don't say who they are so I just hang up. I figure once they get your CC info they're off to the races. You have to think everything is a scam no days.
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    wayneherndonwayneherndon Posts: 2,357 ✭✭✭
    The best one I've seen lately actually referrenced a coin transaction. Not a real one but the sender had been clever enough to see what type of goods I sell and tailer the scam email to that area. I still recognized it, fortunately. The key is to log into eBay and PayPal directly from your own favorites links in your browser rather than links in the emails.

    WH
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    23Pairer23Pairer Posts: 911 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Hello All -

    Maybe this has been posted before - even if it has, perhaps my posting it again will help still more others...

    This week I got taken by a fishing scam - usually I have a sixth sense for these things and see them coming from a mile away, but this one got me. Here's how it works:

    I got an email, from service@paypal.com, informing me that Melinda Navarro had made a payment to my account for $93.50. This email looked exactly like other such legitamate emails I have received form paypal in the past, and so my first thought was that Melinda Navarro had made a mistake. I clicked the link which took me to a site that looked EXACTLY like the Paypal Login screen, and had a URL that began with http://www.paypal.com, except when I typed my name & password word into I got a screen that said there was an error processing my login. It took me all of three seconds to realize I had just been had...

    I immediately logged into the real Paypal and changed my password. Just to be sure, I also deleted all my cards & accounts. And just to be extra sure, I put a 48 hour hold on my bank account to make sure that no illicit transactions had occured. Luckily, I think I am safe - but boy, this was an effective fishing scheme. Scary effective.

    Hope none of you get this same email - but if you do I hope this post helps you avoid a potentially nightmarsih situation.

    ~ Artist >>



    make sure it says https://, not just http:// This means secure site https://
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    flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>This email looked exactly like other such legitamate emails I have received form paypal in the past, and so my first thought was that Melinda Navarro had made a mistake. I clicked the link which took me to a site that looked EXACTLY like the Paypal Login screen >>

    Don't ever, ever, EVER click any link in any email no matter how legitimate it looks. >>

    Yep, repeated for emphasis. I don't even click on links in legit emails anymore.

    Open a new browser window, type the URL, make sure the site is secure, and then log in. It's the only way to be sure.
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    << <i>I like to have fun with these and type a new password and username in (one telling them what they can do to themselves). >>


    Don't click on the link! Yes that idea of giving them that password and username sounds tempting, but at the same time they may be giving you a keylogger. It has been known to happen.

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