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thedprothedpro Posts: 170
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I understand that toned coins are desirable. How does toning occur in a way that almost looks like paint?


For example; this one (this is not my auction, I am not spamming).


Pfft! uh huh

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    thedprothedpro Posts: 170
    better example
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    SilverEagles92SilverEagles92 Posts: 6,787 ✭
    They both have probably been enhanced artificially. Not desirable at all. I know the second one has for sure, but I need clarification on the first. Steer clear of these guys.

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    SafeCrackerSafeCracker Posts: 165
    My first guess is heat and chemicals, or maybe both. I'm no expert, but that's my oppinion of the two examples.

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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,037 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Yes, the peace dollar is obviously AT= Artificially toned.

    I'm still deciding on the Morgan, though.image
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    WoodenJeffersonWoodenJefferson Posts: 6,491 ✭✭✭✭
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    roadrunnerroadrunner Posts: 28,374 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The seller has a wordy "guarantee" that is basically meaningless.
    You can return the coin if it is misrepresented. He then goes on to state in a lengthy dissertation that he only offers opinions. More than likely the coins are all AT. I'd steer clear of this ebayer.

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    coinguy1coinguy1 Posts: 13,484 ✭✭✭
    My opinion is that neither coin is original.

    <<I understand that toned coins are desirable.>>

    By the way, not all toning (even if completely original) is desirable. Many naturally toned coins are quite unattractive and sell at deserved discounts.
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    JJMJJM Posts: 8,128 ✭✭✭✭✭
    the morgan is suspect AT, or envelope accelerated at least

    the second coin was baked for sure
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    zenlaw007zenlaw007 Posts: 29
    Here is a good question. How many of you would buy a coin that had awesome toning if you KNEW it was baked? I would if it were cheap enough. I wouldn't spend any real money on it.
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    lkeneficlkenefic Posts: 9,349 ✭✭✭✭✭
    ...like you said...if it was cheap enough...sure. Isn't that what MS70 is for?? image
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    BillyMadisonBillyMadison Posts: 24
    This seems like it ended at fair price. It went for slightly higher then I may have been willing to pay, but fair.
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    GoldenEyeNumismaticsGoldenEyeNumismatics Posts: 13,187 ✭✭✭
    both of those coins are artificially toned
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    jearljearl Posts: 11
    Those coins look cooked.
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    OmegaOmega Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭
    coin puke pics are gone on the Peace.
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    raindraind Posts: 6
    Fake toning or not, they look purdy. I'd only pay a fraction of what that guy did, but thats just me.
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    StaceyBStaceyB Posts: 6
    If money were not an issue in my world, I'd buy a coin like that.
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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    Hey, when I clicked on the link, it had that "rover" heading on it that we were warned about a while back. What's up?
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    TomBTomB Posts: 22,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    You are spamming. THESE ARE ROVER LINKS! Do not click the link!
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>You are spamming. THESE ARE ROVER LINKS! Do not click the link! >>



    Yep, and this thread was revived by another other SPAMMER - jearl.

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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    I pm'd Otis about this. If anyone else is reading this second page, don't click on the links in the original post.

    And Tom, you better not have been directing that post at me, dude. I was warning everyone.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    OK, now who the hell is jearl. He/she/it just pm'd me and I'm not going to open it. Say it here, whatever you've got to say.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>And Tom, you better not have been directing that post at me, dude. I was warning everyone. >>



    Chill the hell out. Tom has been on these spammers all day today. He and I have been PMing back and forth about it. Oh, and Otis was given a heads up hours ago.

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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    Why the hell did he say I was spamming, Russ?
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>Why the hell did he say I was spamming, Russ? >>



    He didn't.

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    TomBTomB Posts: 22,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Pharmer, the OP stated

    << <i>this is not my auction, I am not spamming >>

    however, it is clear that the OP was spamming and that jearl is an alt ID as well as zenlaw007. My post was directed to the OP, which should have been understood.
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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭


    << <i>You are spamming. THESE ARE ROVER LINKS! Do not click the link! >>



    That was in response to my warning.
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

    image
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>OK, now who the hell is jearl >>



    He's one of the ones who has been spamming the BST board.

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    SportsModeratorSportsModerator Posts: 1,624 mod
    TWO spammer/redirect posters in one thread! Needless to say, neither are with us anymore.

    Just keep letting us know about these clowns

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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭


    << <i>

    << <i>And Tom, you better not have been directing that post at me, dude. I was warning everyone. >>



    Chill the hell out. Tom has been on these spammers all day today. He and I have been PMing back and forth about it. Oh, and Otis was given a heads up hours ago.

    Russ, NCNE >>



    Right back at you. Did it ever occur to you to warn people like I did?
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

    image
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    You should get back on your meds, Pharmer. You're making an idiot of yourself.

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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    I did something about it. What did you do?
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

    image
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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>I did something about it. What did you do? >>



    I PMed Otis hours before you "did something" about it.

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    clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
    What is a rover link? I see it in the URL, but this is the first I've heard about it.
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    pharmerpharmer Posts: 8,355 ✭
    Did it ever occur to you to warn people about the links like I did? That's called doing something about it. You just let folks keep on clicking the links. I posted the warning as soon as I saw the "rover" heading. Why didn't you if you knew about this "hours" ago?
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>What is a rover link? I see it in the URL, but this is the first I've heard about it. >>



    It's a referral link where the spammer gets paid for click-thrus. It isn't a virus or anything dangerous.

    Russ, NCNE
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    clw54clw54 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭
    I see. Thanks, Russ.
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    TomBTomB Posts: 22,982 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I posted a thread on the NGC boards regarding these, and tinyurl masked links, because the spammers were getting more plentiful. If you are interested, the NGC thread is here.
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