5 out of 5 BodyBags anybody??

TorinoCobra71 · March 29, 2007 5:40AM

This person just donated at least $100 to PCGS.......

Link to a PAINFUL submission.

TorinoCobra71

DesertRat · March 29, 2007 5:42AM

What does "Questionable color RD" mean exactly?

Counterfeit? Or they aren't certain, so unwilling to grade?

Bryan1315 · March 29, 2007 5:44AM

Looks like off to ANACS they should go

guitarwes · March 29, 2007 5:47AM

owiee on the '55 DDO............the first time.

MadMarty · March 29, 2007 6:21AM

OUCH!, That submission is going to leave a mark!!!

jmj3esq · March 29, 2007 6:35AM

That is very sad. Those are some expensive big boy coins right there on top if it all. Im guessing, as always, that they were bought raw on ebay.

gyocomgd · March 29, 2007 7:14AM

Forget "donating $100 to PCGS." It appears the guy has lost a couple of grand at least on the coins themselves.

BECOKA · March 29, 2007 7:27AM

Looks like maybe someone tried the e-bay thing for the first time and got burned.

dan8402 · March 29, 2007 7:37AM

<< What does "Questionable color RD" mean exactly?

Counterfeit? Or they aren't certain, so unwilling to grade? >>

I'm guessing that something was done to make the coin look originally red, although it was not.

darktone · March 29, 2007 9:44AM

This is jst awful

. You know these were someones prized possessions and to see these grades must be more than a let down. PCGS should send submitters like this a link to this forum for some help or at least for some emotional support. I wonder if they send a personel message with a submission this bad?

drwstr123 · March 29, 2007 9:46AM

They don't send diddly! ...(or so I've heard)...

BECOKA · March 29, 2007 9:47AM

<< This is jst awful

. You know these were someones prized possessions and to see these grades must be more than a let down. PCGS should send submitters like this a link to this forum for some help or at least for some emotional support. I wonder if they send a personel message with a submission this bad? >>

No personal message, just an email and a link to the final grades that are in the first post.

BECOKA · March 29, 2007 9:48AM

<< They don't send diddly! ...(or so I've heard)... >>

They at least send the coins back.

I wish that for the grading fee that it would include a verbal description of the grade. Something like you would get when you pay a grading fee at a reputable dealer. For this we have to pay extra for the presidential review but I have heard that sometimes all you get is a few quick scribbles on a notepad.

darktone · March 29, 2007 9:56AM

I remember getting some hand written notes from anacs back in the 80's on some of my first submissions that were pretty bad.

mozeppa · March 29, 2007 1:12PM

i'd say they left a mark when they was purchased...

no doubt they'll wind up on ebay as...

LQQK!.....WOW!....ESTATE!....GRANPA'S!....NEED MONEY... NO TIME TO HAVE GRADED!, MY LOSS IS YOUR GAIN!

FarmerBill · March 30, 2007 12:46AM

My problem with that submission is that since the first 1909svdb got bagged for questionable color PCGS is not giving him their opinion as to whether the coin is genuine. I think for the submission fee PCGS should owe him that much. I went though the same thing with a 1936 Proof WLH. PCGS bagged it for cleaning, Anacs then bagged it as not genuine......My $.02

BobaFett72 · March 30, 2007 12:54AM

they should NET grade; it would be less painful. Especially given the chunk of change spent on fees' postage, insurance etc.

Merc · March 30, 2007 1:07AM

<< This person just donated at least $100 to PCGS >>

No, he paid PCGS for a grade opinion for each coin. If you have raw coins and you want an unbiased and educated opinion, you will have to pay someone.

jmj3esq · March 30, 2007 1:12AM

My problem with that submission is that since the first 1909svdb got bagged for questionable color PCGS is not giving him their opinion as to whether the coin is genuine. I think for the submission fee PCGS should owe him that much. I went though the same thing with a 1936 Proof WLH. PCGS bagged it for cleaning, Anacs then bagged it as not genuine......My $.02

Good point. I agree 100%. You deserve at least that considering the high the cost of grading fees. I wish they net graded and slabbed like ANACS does.

drwstr123 · March 30, 2007 1:22AM

I can understand not wanting to Net Grade. I only wish the cost of grading would include a complete sentence instead of a phrase. Mike

Goldbully · April 3, 2007 11:35AM

5 out 0f 7 is painful too.

Looks like someone else thought he could make money on eBay overgrade Morgan scammers.

PCGS

Animalkeeper · April 3, 2007 12:01PM

<<I only wish the cost of grading would include a complete sentence instead of a phrase.

My first submission of 4 coins (free as part of membership) resulted in 4 BBs but they weren't big dollar coins like this. Got a very valuable education out of it and my next one only had 1 BB. In truth I've only had two submissions that didn't have any.

It's tough learning the lessons when PCGS's reply is so curt!

coinbuf · April 3, 2007 12:08PM

<< 

<< This person just donated at least $100 to PCGS >>

No, he paid PCGS for a grade opinion for each coin. If you have raw coins and you want an unbiased and educated opinion, you will have to pay someone. >>

Very true but as I've said more than once ALL tpg's should think customer service first and good customer service would include a clear consise explanation of the problem. That way thier customers could learn from the mistake.

Chris

TwoSides2aCoin · April 3, 2007 12:16PM

nothing ventured , nothing gained.

The IRS allows for losses, but only for so long. Personally its taken me a couple years of losing to figure that out. Not by bodybags, but by which coins are highest enough on the grade scale to warrant submission on re-sell... even if me an' BooBoo gotta do beans n franks, it's still the best forest in the whole world.

Goldbully · April 3, 2007 12:26PM

Wow, another major ouch!!!!!!!

Did you learn from this one BooBoo Bear???

REAL Hurt

seateddime · April 3, 2007 1:00PM

been there done that

TwoSides2aCoin · April 3, 2007 1:04PM

<< Wow, another major ouch!!!!!!!

Did you learn from this one BooBoo Bear???

REAL Hurt >>

That one wasnt mine

... whew, thankfully not. Mine were lower MS statehood quarters ... Shhhhhhhh , dont' tell the ranger .

AUandAG · April 3, 2007 1:12PM

My feeling is that this is a test run with the cheap coins going first.
Can't wait to see the good stuff!
Oh my oh my.
bob
first double oh my that I've given.

TwoSides2aCoin · April 3, 2007 1:13PM

evolving :

1 10822685 99978 2005-W $25 Eagle US PR70DC (Gold)
2 1 10822686 921109 2005-W $25 Statue of Liberty US PR69DC (PLAT)
2 2 10822687 921109 2005-W $25 Statue of Liberty US PR70DC ( PLAT)
3 1 10822688 7260 1899-O $1 US Altered Surface (<---strike two was PVC residue )
4 1 10822689 83148 1998 1C US MS65R WIDE AM

1 1 10813524 9777 1999-W $5 Washington US MS69
2 1 10813525 4019 1943/2-P 5C US AU58
3 1 10813526 3148 1998 1C US MS66RD Wide AM

1 1 10814127 89991 2006-W $1 Eagle-20th Anniversary US MS68
2 1 10814128 89991 2006-W $1 Eagle-20th Anniversary US MS69
3 1 10814129 89993 2006-W $50 Eagle-20th Anniversary US MS69
3 2 10814130 89993 2006-W $50 Eagle-20th Anniversary US MS69

Now comes the cheerios sacagawea... If I could get a coin number

DRG · April 3, 2007 5:58PM

I was 1 for 8 with the BB's on my last submission. I still don't know why the 1926 S Buff get the bag. It is a poorly struck XF-AU coin that I have owned for 30 years. I bought it as a G-VG when I was a teenager. I recognized then that the problem was strike not wear. The obverse is so poorly struck that the date is incomplete but there is still some mint luster and the horn is full (if only at the right angle). Altered surface???

The rest of the submission is not too bad in my opinion.

The 1916 PR65 Buff was bought raw on eBay. It was labeled as a proof but no one seemed to believe it. The coin looked nice so I paid MS65+ money for it.....eBay is not ALL bad!!

The 3 leg was also raw on eBay as a VF and sold cheap.

Line # Item # Cert # PCGS No. CoinDate Denomination Variety Country Grade
1 1 03959704 21124 2006-W $100 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS69
2 1 03959705 21123 2006-W $50 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70
3 1 03959706 21122 2006-W $25 Statue of Liberty-First Strike US MS70
4 1 03959707 21121 2006-W $10 Statue of Liberty US MS70
5 1 03959708 3993 1916 5C US PR65
6 1 03959709 3959 1926-S 5C US Altered Surface
7 1 03959710 3982 1937-D 5C 3 Legs US AU50
8 1 03959711 5072 1937 10C US PR66

Total Items: 8

Date Received: 2/15/2007

As for the Plat's. Like Meatloaf says, "Three out of four aint bad".

tahoe98 · April 4, 2007 2:54AM

maybe it's time for govment intervention!

5 out of 5 BodyBags anybody??

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