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tahoe98tahoe98 Posts: 11,388 ✭✭✭
................that some day coins will be graded by computers??? slabbed coins can have a label such as "microsoft 70"!!!!

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    RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭
    It's already been tried and fell flat.

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    guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,308 ✭✭✭

    I think computers would only grade by scanned details. No eye appeal would be considered.

    Counterfiet detection, that would be good.

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    some aspects of a coin simply cannot be taken into consideration by a computer
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    NumisOxideNumisOxide Posts: 11,051 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I think computers would only grade by scanned details. No eye appeal would be considered. >>


    Bingo.
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    flaminioflaminio Posts: 5,664 ✭✭✭
    A computer could be used to assign a strict technical grade. Some might say "great" to such an idea, but there's one major problem with it: it kills the market for resubmits. For that reason alone no slabber would ever use it.
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    As mentioned, it was tried sometime in the 1980's. However, computer technology has advanced far since then and I believe it is totally feasible but with one difference than before... a human eyeball. The computer should be able to give a fairly accurate technical grade by counting marks and noting their location on the coin, and using pre-programmed measurements to detect wear and weakness of strike. Then a person could look the coin over and adjust the computer's grade accordingly for eye-appeal and things the computer may not have picked up. As a general rule I do not think that grading should be subjective. It should be scientific and we have the means to make it so.
    Bob
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    ZoinsZoins Posts: 34,523 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>A computer could be used to assign a strict technical grade. Some might say "great" to such an idea, but there's one major problem with it: it kills the market for resubmits. For that reason alone no slabber would ever use it. >>

    It can be used for a new multi-dimensional grading system. Have a computer assign a technical grade and a person assign an eye-appeal grade. Assign other dimensions as appropriate.

    The current system isn't very good for eye-appeal anyway IMO.
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    DesertRatDesertRat Posts: 1,791 ✭
    The main problem with a computer grading system is determining the baseline. The software has to have a baseline surface to compare to and who is to say what that baseline is to be? Are they scanning the surface with a laser and detecting imperfections down to 1 micron? 2? 5? The initial settings would be subjective and thus open to ridicule.
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    eyoung429eyoung429 Posts: 6,374 ✭
    This would absolutely suck if you had a coin that had major die cracks, planchett flaws and clashes.....
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    TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 45,290 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The human element involved in purchasing a coin will almost always require a human element involved in determining it's value and therein lies the dilemma of the robot doing the grading. Computers can analyze but they cannot SELL the idea.. that takes savvy which is not usually programmable but acquired after much seasoning is applied. I think Laura will even agree with me on this.

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