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In the numismatic bonanza that is Baltimore, should I not limit myself to PCGS and NGC coins?

LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭
Tomorrow I will be swimming through an ocean of numismatics, better known as the bourse at Baltimore. Normally, I only look at PCGS coins and NGC coins, and turn my nose up at ANACS or ICG coins. However, as time goes by, I am getting more liberal (if that's possible image ), and I am starting to look more and more at the slabs of other grading services. Does anyone here try to seek out ANACS or ICG slabs for possible diamonds in the rough? Given the massive amount of coins that I will see tomorrow, I think it would be interesting to see what is in the "other" slabs and perhaps I will find a decent coin that I would typically overlook. What do you think?
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    mgoodm3mgoodm3 Posts: 17,497 ✭✭✭
    Take the challenge and limit yourself to ACG.
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    StrikeOutXXXStrikeOutXXX Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I am always reminded of Russ' "Magic Trick". Buy the coin, not the holder image

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    BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,525 ✭✭✭✭✭
    why limit yourself to slabbed coins? If you plan on looking at nice copper, you will be seeing nearly all of it raw.
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    LongacreLongacre Posts: 16,717 ✭✭✭


    << <i>why limit yourself to slabbed coins? If you plan on looking at nice copper, you will be seeing nearly all of it raw. >>




    Yes, I will be doing that too. Good point.
    Always took candy from strangers
    Didn't wanna get me no trade
    Never want to be like papa
    Working for the boss every night and day
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    MrBreezeMrBreeze Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭
    I think the biggest problem you will find is looking through all of the flotsam and jetsam to find any coin that you actually want to view, no matter whether it is PCGS, NGC, ANACS, ICG, etc.
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    << <i>I think the biggest problem you will find is looking through all of the flotsam and jetsam to find any coin that you actually want to view, no matter whether it is PCGS, NGC, ANACS, ICG, etc. >>




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    I went to show a couple of weeks ago and there was no shortage of dogs in all sorts of "name brand" holders. I sometimes *gasp* buy raw coins.....
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    PreussenPreussen Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭


    << <i>...should I not limit myself to PCGS and NGC coins? >>

    I didn't know that PCGS and NGC minted coins image. I've always limited my collecting to US and world coins image



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    Aegis3Aegis3 Posts: 2,936 ✭✭✭
    Why even limit yourself to just coins, raw or slabbed? They'll be plenty of cool exonumia there. And paper money.
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    REALGATORREALGATOR Posts: 2,694 ✭✭✭✭✭
    My best scores have been on ANACS, ICG, PCI and raw on the gold I am most familiar with. Even SEGS and some of those other funky slabs turn up some stuff. I once found an 1873-S $2 1/2 lables as 1873 in a NTC holder. Both the grading service and the owner blew it. A fool and his money!

    You are missing out if you dont give these other items a look.

    -RG
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    291fifth291fifth Posts: 25,169 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I always look at the coin, regardless of the holder.
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    I look at all TPGs even the third world ones, I have found many of very nice coins that graded at PCGS and NGC very well from other TPGs. But it is about the coin not the holder.image edited to add: By the way have a good time tomarrow.
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    stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I believe if one is a serious collector, they are doing themselves a disservice by having tunnel-vision to only a couple flavors of plastic.
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    At the Charlotte show I found a dealer that had 2 1879-O Morgans(tough to find in higher grades...only 4 that I saw the entire show above 62 certified)...PCGS 64 and ANACS 65....I asked to compare the 2 and by far, the 65 was a so much better looking coin than the 64...so the price was much higher obviously ...I found myself thinking "if PCGS saw these 2 coins side by side, the 65 would certainly cross"...but then I started questioning the 64....and the more I examined it, the more it was probably overgraded...even though it was in 64 plastic...so IMO...examine everything you are looking for....the 2 coins I bought in Charlotte were raw(had 1 certified at the show...1930 Buffalo "5 leg" variety)
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    OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,567 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I didn't know that PCGS and NGC minted coins image. I've always limited my collecting to US and world coins image



    image -Preussen >>




    I didn't know that the US was not part of the world. image. Personally, I have always limited my collecting simply world coins.image
    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
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    lathmachlathmach Posts: 4,720
    I think you have a problem if all you look at is the slab.

    Ray
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    SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 12,964 ✭✭✭✭✭
    To heck with slabbed coins Longacre.

    Take your towering intellect and venture into the world of raw coin cherrypicking. Look through unslabbed 1950 and 1959 Proof sets and pick up any sets that have a Cameo or DeepCameo half at bid. If you do, I will buy the set from you for 1.5 times bid and give you quick profit of 50% image

    Let me know how successful you are and where you want me to send your checkimage

    Have fun at the show.
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    RedneckHBRedneckHB Posts: 20,155 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some one the nicest coins in the series that I collect were once in Anacs holder. Do not overlook the trees for the forest.
    Excuses are tools of the ignorant

    Knowledge is the enemy of fear

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    guitarwesguitarwes Posts: 9,308 ✭✭✭
    There are really good coins in ANACS slabs I think. I have some believe it or not!

    ICG is very conservative. so I tend to steer clear, UNLESS it's a real beauty that the dealer knows is overgraded and you can get it for 1 or 2 points/grades cheaper.

    Have fun at the show...................



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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>ICG is very conservative. so I tend to steer clear, UNLESS it's a real beauty that the dealer knows is overgraded and you can get it for 1 or 2 points/grades cheaper. >>



    Do you mean ICG is very liberal?

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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭
    I don't care what the holder is. If I see an Indian Half Eagle I like for the right price I will buy it. And yes if I spot a counterfeit I am sometimes interested for documenting purposes. Although sometimes it is hard to tell the seller that the $2000 coin is only worth $100. image
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    PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 47,509 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>I don't care what the holder is. If I see an Indian Half Eagle I like for the right price I will buy it. And yes if I spot a counterfeit I am sometimes interested for documenting purposes. Although sometimes it is hard to tell the seller that the $2000 coin is only worth $100. image >>



    Most quality US gold counterfeits have full weight and fineness of gold so a half eagle should be worth at least $150.




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    BECOKABECOKA Posts: 16,961 ✭✭✭


    << <i>

    << <i>I don't care what the holder is. If I see an Indian Half Eagle I like for the right price I will buy it. And yes if I spot a counterfeit I am sometimes interested for documenting purposes. Although sometimes it is hard to tell the seller that the $2000 coin is only worth $100. image >>



    Most quality US gold counterfeits have full weight and fineness of gold so a half eagle should be worth at least $150. >>



    OK, I was figuratively speaking. Last time I bought a counterfeit gold was at $400.
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    RYKRYK Posts: 35,800 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I have noticed a recent proliferation of rare date gold coins in the collector grade/price range in new ANACS slabs.

    It really depends on what you are looking to buy. Some coins are better hunted raw, others slabbed. I would not discount any possibility.
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    mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    I know nobody's gonna believe it but.....i've cracked 3 out of acg holders and sent them to pcgs.

    2 came back same grade...the 3rd came back one grade higher.

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