1979 Type 2 Proof Sets questions

jmcu12 · March 12, 2007 5:45AM

Did all of the 1979 Type 2 sets contain a clear ‘S’ on all denominations? Or was it possible to have a Type 2 SBA with a Type 1 Kennedy?

And I know most of the value is with the SBA, but what kind of money does an all clear
‘S’ set bring? (if it exists). And is this something that needs to be sent to the TPG?

Thanks everyone!

grabba · March 12, 2007 5:51AM

<< Did all of the 1979 Type 2 sets contain a clear ‘S’ on all denominations? Or was it possible to have a Type 2 SBA with a Type 1 Kennedy?

And I know most of the value is with the SBA, but what kind of money does an all clear
‘S’ set bring? (if it exists). And is this something that needs to be sent to the TPG?

Thanks everyone! >>

Type 1 and Type 2 can be mixed in together in the sets and usually are. Finding one with all Type 2 is rare and worth a small premium. 1979 Type 2 sets usually go for around $100.

Edited to add: They are a little more expensive than I thought.

jmcu12 · March 12, 2007 6:49AM

Gratzie!

pb2y · March 12, 2007 7:26AM

The 79 and 81 proof sets both had the same MM.
The 81 has the bigger premium

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Writersblock · March 12, 2007 10:46PM

The 1979 set can be found with a mix of types, it is not considered to be a type 2 set unless ALL of the coins in the set are type 2. Some scammers have used that to their advantage calling any set that had at least some type 2 coins in it a type 2 set and then pricing them at the graysheet type 2 set level.

VTCoins · March 12, 2007 11:38PM

<< The 79 and 81 proof sets both had the same MM. >>

Not true. The 1979 Type 1 is smudged, the 1979 Type 2 is clear, the 1981 Type 1 is clear (and looks similar to the 1979 Type 2), and the 1981 Type 2 is clear and look distinctly different from all of the other mintmarks.

<< Type 1 and Type 2 can be mixed in together in the sets and usually are. >>

pb2y · March 13, 2007 2:36AM

Only one master hub was use in producing the working MM dies used on 79 and 81 proof sets.
The mintmarks seen are the result of different degrees of perfection in die manufacture.
The confusion and resulting scam is now in its 28th year.

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MajorDuty · March 13, 2007 2:42AM

<< Only one master hub was use in producing the working MM dies used on 79 and 81 proof sets. The mintmarks seen are the result of different degrees of perfection in die manufacture. The confusion and resulting scam is now in its 28th year. >>

Are you saying the mint mark is the exact same from '79 to '81, and only differs because of imperfections in the dies? I don't know about that one. The completely different shape of the '81 Type 2 leads me to believe otherwise.

jgrinz · March 13, 2007 2:47AM

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<< Only one master hub was use in producing the working MM dies used on 79 and 81 proof sets. The mintmarks seen are the result of different degrees of perfection in die manufacture. The confusion and resulting scam is now in its 28th year. >>

Are you saying the mint mark is the exact same from '79 to '81, and only differs because of imperfections in the dies? I don't know about that one. The completely different shape of the '81 Type 2 leads me to believe otherwise. >>

It was MY understanding that the '79 had the blob and clear and '81 had two distinct clear s's One being a superman S
and one being a S with ends having small round feet. I think they distinct SEPARATE dies in 81

pb2y · March 13, 2007 2:54AM

The 81 type 2 MM seen in the later half of 81 is the same MM intended
for the the current year and the 79 year. Nothing can be determined from the
MM that is globbed, but those that are filled or clear have many of the same attributes
as the 81 proof set.

LINK

VTCoins · March 13, 2007 3:03AM

Believe it or not ... just because someone on eBay states something doesn't make it true.

Writersblock · March 13, 2007 4:10AM

<< Are you saying the mint mark is the exact same from '79 to '81, and only differs because of imperfections in the dies? >>

If you are refering to the 79 Type 2, the 1980 and the 1981 type 1 I will agree. The 79 type 1 is very different from the type 2. The 1981 type 2 is also different from the type 1, but not nearly as obvious as the differences between the 79 type 1 and 2.

1979 Type 2 Proof Sets questions

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