I've bought toned coins from Morris and the images were on, not juiced. Haven't seen this one.
Before people through stones, maybe they should look at themselves first? Maybe someone throwing a stone sells (or knowingly sold) AT coins at shows?
Again with the "circle of trust".....that's lame GAT.....you know I love ya man, but it isn't a discussion of any "circle". Maybe the lack of discussion on this is because of wanting to see more than one wannabe throw stones at another seller? (Note: I have bought multiple times from Morris and never been disappointed. I will still buy from him in a heartbeat).
That coin was once owned by me. I can assure you it is naturally toned. My dad kept it on his window still for years. I always figured the air off the lake caused the toning.
<< <i>That coin was once owned by me. I can assure you it is naturally toned. My dad kept it on his window still for years. I always figured the air off the lake caused the toning.
W,
Seems to be a great example of bag toning.....are you sure it toned in a window?
I cannot speak with authority about this coin, however I do have my inclinations that guide me.
What I can speak to is that I have known mnmcoin to use juiced images before. I sold a very nice and unique Washington quarter on Ebay and a month later Morris was selling it with juiced images. All the pictures are long gone now, but I know without a doubt that it was the same coin and juiced pictures.
<< <i>I can say that jbsteven `s images are true to life with no hankie pankie.
can you speak to other Hanky-Panky which has taken place in his auctions, things such as shilling or having friends bid/buy items to bail him out?? i well recall a specific DMPL Morgan and the accompanying thread which might still be in the archives for the right searcher to find.
what do you think is worse, an otherwise ethical seller enhancing a picture somewhat or a more accurate picture with unethical bidding practices?? >>
Keets, please dig up the thread as I have trouble seeing JB doing this.....not saying he did not do it, I would like to see the proof. >>
Keets speaks the truth with this one. I remember it also. Texas and California got together on the said coin.
i was holding my tounge as I was hoping this Jason guy would give me pos. feedback on a 1000$ Franklin I just returned to him for a refund....
I do not get good vibes from this feller ..........he spent quite some time trying to convince me the coin I had in my hand WASN`T the coin that had bounced around Heritage for the last couple of years, when I had indisputable proof it was . .... tried to convince me HE had submitted the coin raw last year ...blah , blah , blah
I will throw him on the pile of dealers that I do not care for .
Have the people here, who are crapping on Morris, ever purchase anything from him ? I doubt it. I have never had a problem with anything I have purchased from Morris Minsberg. His pictures are very accurate. He's a stand up guy as far as I am concerned. Its a shame that certain people here continue to feel the need to bad mouth someone without getting all the facts straight. Its some of the same people who defended that guy Darin until one of "thier own" got screwed by him. Very sad.
<< <i>Have the people here, who are crapping on Morris, ever purchase anything from him ? I doubt it. I have never had a problem with anything I have purchased from Morris Minsberg. His pictures are very accurate. He's a stand up guy as far as I am concerned. Its a shame that certain people here continue to feel the need to bad mouth someone without getting all the facts straight. Its some of the same people who defended that guy Darin until one of "thier own" got screwed by him. Very sad. >>
I purchased a coin from him a couple years ago -- inexpensive BU Morgan. The auction image hid numerous bagmarks. He took the return with no problem, but the image manipulation was certainly irksome.
I can't say wether or not the MNM photo is juiced... but it certainly LOOKS juiced to the max. I was pleased with the coin or two I purchased from him.
On the other hand, I have never had dealings with Jason. But I have wondered about his relatively low ebay feedback rating. Generally, you have to be doing something wrong to acheive a rating of less than 99.5% on ebay.
On the other hand (said the three handed man), JB's relatively low FB rating could be due retaliatory negs if he has given out negs to other Ebayers, as is sometimes the case.
"Wars are really ugly! They're dirty and they're cold. I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole." Mary
<< <i>You sure know a lot for an 81 year old newbie >>
I`m gonna be 86 you young pot -licker >>
Then why did you say this recently in the Tomaska/R&I auctions thread?:
<< <i>I am 81 years old and do not have the luxury of spending decades becomming an expert on the Franklin series . I do not wish to find out in the future that the coin I paid 5X the going rate for is marginaly better then a average example . >>
And no need to be insulting Foxxy, I was complimenting you on knowing so much about us, as evidenced by your post just before I said that. You said you were an 81 year old newbie here, yet you must have done your homework on us.
ALTernatively, maybe you just forgot your age
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
I love colorfully toned coins, but that just doesn't look natural, I don't care what its pedigree is. If I shelled out premium bux for a coin like that, I'd allways be second-guessing myself as to its originality, given what the docs are capable of these days...
<< <i>That coin was once owned by me. I can assure you it is naturally toned. My dad kept it on his window still for years. I always figured the air off the lake caused the toning. PB,Since you owned the coin at one time,in all seriousness,its obviously a nice toner,but how close is it to the image,and do you have any images available from when you were the owner?I for one am interested.
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Great coins are not cheap,and cheap coins are not great!
<< <i>Have the people here, who are crapping on Morris, ever purchase anything from him ? I doubt it. >>
I have purchased from Morris and have been well pleased. I consider him an excellent dealer. However, anybody who's spent any time imaging coins can clearly see that this image is juiced - very juiced. The saturation is so strong Stevie Wonder could see it.
That said, in looking at his auctions lately the images don't seem to be up to his normal high quality level. I'm wondering if perhaps he has an employee doing the images these days.
<< <i>You sure know a lot for an 81 year old newbie >>
I`m gonna be 86 you young pot -licker >>
Then why did you say this recently in the Tomaska/R&I auctions thread?:
<< <i>I am 81 years old and do not have the luxury of spending decades becomming an expert on the Franklin series . I do not wish to find out in the future that the coin I paid 5X the going rate for is marginaly better then a average example . >>
And no need to be insulting Foxxy, I was complimenting you on knowing so much about us, as evidenced by your post just before I said that. You said you were an 81 year old newbie here, yet you must have done your homework on us.
ALTernatively, maybe you just forgot your age >>
I`m not insulting you you young buck ! A pot licker is a term of endearment ..............at least that`s what my grandpa used to call me -
and I am sure he loved me !
Now I got to get the old trunk out of the attic and dig up my ole` drivers license ........ I haven`t been behind the wheel sice the old Studebaker
went kaputs . But I`m pretty sure i`m 92 years old !!
I've held this coin in-hand and it's spectacular. Perhaps the photo is a tad over saturated, but it really is a monster killer-diller of a coin, with ultra vibrant colors and superb luster. The greens are out of this world.
There sure are a lot of haters here. Pretty tacky that JB felt it necessary to start a whole thread about somebody else's auction just to bash him.
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wish I could see it in hand
what do you mean 'highly juiced' ?
are you implying colors were painted over the photo to make look different than actual?
I've bought toned coins from Morris and the images were on, not juiced. Haven't seen this one.
Before people through stones, maybe they should look at themselves first? Maybe someone throwing a stone sells (or knowingly sold) AT coins at shows?
Again with the "circle of trust".....that's lame GAT.....you know I love ya man, but it isn't a discussion of any "circle". Maybe the lack of discussion on this is because of wanting to see more than one wannabe throw stones at another seller? (Note: I have bought multiple times from Morris and never been disappointed. I will still buy from him in a heartbeat).
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
<< <i>BTW, I went outta my way to greet TBT, and no response. I take it all back. Heh heh >>
Sorry buddy, I did not see your post. I am getting old and slow......maybe a bit grumpy also.
TBT
<< <i>That coin was once owned by me. I can assure you it is naturally toned. My dad kept it on his window still for years. I always figured the air off the lake caused the toning.
W,
Seems to be a great example of bag toning.....are you sure it toned in a window?
TBT
What I can speak to is that I have known mnmcoin to use juiced images before. I sold a very nice and unique Washington quarter on Ebay and a month later Morris was selling it with juiced images. All the pictures are long gone now, but I know without a doubt that it was the same coin and juiced pictures.
"Bongo hurtles along the rain soaked highway of life on underinflated bald retread tires."
~Wayne
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<< <i>I can say that jbsteven `s images are true to life with no hankie pankie.
can you speak to other Hanky-Panky which has taken place in his auctions, things such as shilling or having friends bid/buy items to bail him out?? i well recall a specific DMPL Morgan and the accompanying thread which might still be in the archives for the right searcher to find.
what do you think is worse, an otherwise ethical seller enhancing a picture somewhat or a more accurate picture with unethical bidding practices?? >>
Keets, please dig up the thread as I have trouble seeing JB doing this.....not saying he did not do it, I would like to see the proof. >>
Keets speaks the truth with this one. I remember it also. Texas and California got together on the said coin.
Ken
I do not get good vibes from this feller ..........he spent quite some time trying to convince me the coin I had in my hand WASN`T the coin that had bounced around Heritage for the last couple of years, when I had indisputable proof it was .
.... tried to convince me HE had submitted the coin raw last year ...blah , blah , blah
I will throw him on the pile of dealers that I do not care for .
<< <i>You sure know a lot for an 81 year old newbie
I`m gonna be 86 you young pot -licker
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I've seen that coin in hand and it looks exactly like the image!
What I want to complain about is in all the sellers photos, he has those dumb stickers on the slab that say "monster""PQ+",
man that really irks me.
They call me "Pack the Ripper"
<< <i>Have the people here, who are crapping on Morris, ever purchase anything from him ? I doubt it. I have never had a problem with anything I have purchased from Morris Minsberg. His pictures are very accurate. He's a stand up guy as far as I am concerned. Its a shame that certain people here continue to feel the need to bad mouth someone without getting all the facts straight. Its some of the same people who defended that guy Darin until one of "thier own" got screwed by him. Very sad. >>
I purchased a coin from him a couple years ago -- inexpensive BU Morgan. The auction image hid numerous bagmarks. He took the return with no problem, but the image manipulation was certainly irksome.
On the other hand, I have never had dealings with Jason. But I have wondered about his relatively low ebay feedback rating. Generally, you have to be doing something wrong to acheive a rating of less than 99.5% on ebay.
On the other hand (said the three handed man), JB's relatively low FB rating could be due retaliatory negs if he has given out negs to other Ebayers, as is sometimes the case.
and they're cold.
I don't want nobody to shoot me in the foxhole."
Mary
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<< <i>You sure know a lot for an 81 year old newbie
I`m gonna be 86 you young pot -licker >>
Then why did you say this recently in the Tomaska/R&I auctions thread?:
<< <i>I am 81 years old and do not have the luxury of spending decades becomming an expert on the Franklin series . I do not wish to find out in the future that the coin I paid 5X the going rate for is marginaly better then a average example . >>
And no need to be insulting Foxxy, I was complimenting you on knowing so much about us, as evidenced by your post just before I said that. You said you were an 81 year old newbie here, yet you must have done your homework on us.
ALTernatively, maybe you just forgot your age
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
I love colorfully toned coins, but that just doesn't look natural, I don't care what its pedigree is. If I shelled out premium bux for a coin like that, I'd allways be second-guessing myself as to its originality, given what the docs are capable of these days...
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<< <i>LQQK!!!
I've seen that coin in hand and it looks exactly like the image! >>
Now that puppy is cool.
<< <i>That coin was once owned by me. I can assure you it is naturally toned. My dad kept it on his window still for years. I always figured the air off the lake caused the toning. PB,Since you owned the coin at one time,in all seriousness,its obviously a nice toner,but how close is it to the image,and do you have any images available from when you were the owner?I for one am interested.
<< <i>Have the people here, who are crapping on Morris, ever purchase anything from him ? I doubt it. >>
I have purchased from Morris and have been well pleased. I consider him an excellent dealer. However, anybody who's spent any time imaging coins can clearly see that this image is juiced - very juiced. The saturation is so strong Stevie Wonder could see it.
That said, in looking at his auctions lately the images don't seem to be up to his normal high quality level. I'm wondering if perhaps he has an employee doing the images these days.
Russ, NCNE
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<< <i>You sure know a lot for an 81 year old newbie
I`m gonna be 86 you young pot -licker >>
Then why did you say this recently in the Tomaska/R&I auctions thread?:
<< <i>I am 81 years old and do not have the luxury of spending decades becomming an expert on the Franklin series . I do not wish to find out in the future that the coin I paid 5X the going rate for is marginaly better then a average example . >>
And no need to be insulting Foxxy, I was complimenting you on knowing so much about us, as evidenced by your post just before I said that. You said you were an 81 year old newbie here, yet you must have done your homework on us.
ALTernatively, maybe you just forgot your age
I`m not insulting you you young buck ! A pot licker is a term of endearment ..............at least that`s what my grandpa used to call me -
and I am sure he loved me !
Now I got to get the old trunk out of the attic and dig up my ole` drivers license ........ I haven`t been behind the wheel sice the old Studebaker
went kaputs . But I`m pretty sure i`m 92 years old !!
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."
<< <i>Yes, I can feel the love
That might be a weapon in someone's pocket.......
There sure are a lot of haters here. Pretty tacky that JB felt it necessary to start a whole thread about somebody else's auction just to bash him.
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<< <i>Yes, I can feel the love
That might be a weapon in someone's pocket....... >>
I know he carries, he posted it in a thread once.
Apropos of the coin posse/aka caca: "The longer he spoke of his honor, the tighter I held to my purse."