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rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
How rare is the 1818 Browning-9 die marriage currently considered? I know it was listed as R6 and has since been demoted, but how far has it fallen? What does the top of the condition census look like for this die marriage, and what die states are the most valuable?

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  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    good questions! by some fantastic coincidence, this coin is on the way to me:

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    I look forward to RichieUrich's opinions on these matters, I will hopefully weigh in tonight

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,632 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the pic. I hope it is still at least an R4 because I have one coming in the mail.

    I'm really getting into bust quarters right now. They are tough to locate compared to any other bust denomination, and they are underappreciated. If a few dozen people start to collect them seriously, the prices could go nuclear because there just aren't that many around.
  • OKbustchaserOKbustchaser Posts: 5,546 ✭✭✭✭✭
    The lateste JRJ (Dec 06) lists it as R-4.
    Just because I'm old doesn't mean I don't love to look at a pretty bust.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    R4 sounds right, still a pretty tough coin (try to find one!)

    I imagine that the later the die state, the better. Not sure if any uncirculated B9s are known, census probably looks something like 50, 45, 45, 40 35

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    It's always a pleasure to have a thread about Bust Quarters!

    As OKbustchaser has stated, it is listed as R-4 in the latest rarity ratings from the JRCS. It IMO is a High R-4 or rarer than that, as the variety has seemed to dry up over the last couple of years. Even ugly ones are bringing bigger premiums than would be expected for an R-4 variety. The Die State II as described and pictured in the Browning book has a heavy clash from the 3 arrows and the "25 C." over the cap on the obverse. Two of the arrows can clearly be seen in the book, the third arrow is over star 8. It is a very rare die state and I paid what I considered a lot of money for mine which is a Fine-15. Of the people I know who are collecting Bust Quarters by variety, every one is either looking for it or has it. This statement is true for both the B-9 and the B-9 die state II.

    Heritage has sold 2 B-9's since mid-2004, both in the Jules Reiver sale. A VG-8 NGC went for $977.50 and a VF-25 NGC Die State II went for $3,220. As you can see, substantial premiums for both.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • numismanumisma Posts: 3,877 ✭✭✭✭

    Yes, it is tough, but I think that the auction values realized at the Reiver sale were skewed to the high side by overzealous bidding. Just my opinion. 1818 B-9 does command, and rightlfully so, a healthy premium.
  • BarndogBarndog Posts: 20,515 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes, it is tough, but I think that the auction values realized at the Reiver sale were skewed to the high side by overzealous bidding. Just my opinion. >>




    and it wasn't just the quarters!
  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,553 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Yes, it is tough, but I think that the auction values realized at the Reiver sale were skewed to the high side by overzealous bidding. Just my opinion. 1818 B-9 does command, and rightlfully so, a healthy premium. >>



    Numisma, I definitely agree with that. I believe that there was a 20% premium, on average, for the Reiver pedigree. Even after removing that premium, that still leaves a very large price for what is supposed to be an R-4 variety.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • RichieURichRichieURich Posts: 8,553 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Update: an AG 1818 B-9 quarter just sold on eBay for $121.50:
    1818 B-9 quarter AG

    Again, IMO this is a fairly high price for a variety that is supposed to be an R-4.

    An authorized PCGS dealer, and a contributor to the Red Book.

  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,253 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting bidder list.
  • BaleyBaley Posts: 22,663 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Interesting bidder list

    how so?
    signed,
    the unsuccessful sniper

    PS, I thought this might be the one with the clashed die, but of course that detail looks worn away. Nice late die state on the crack, far later than mine or rhedden's

    Liberty: Parent of Science & Industry

  • CladiatorCladiator Posts: 18,253 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Interesting bidder list

    how so? signed, the unsuccessful sniper >>

    Some familiar faces image

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